AP, June 16, 2009
Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that recent killings show the need for a tougher U.S. hate crimes law to stop “violence masquerading as political activism.”
“Over the last several weeks, we have witnessed brazen acts of violence, committed in places that many would have considered unthinkable,” Holder told the Washington Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs.
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The violence, he said, “reminds us of the potential threat posed by violent extremists and the tragedy that ensues when reasoned discourse is replaced by armed confrontation.”
In order to stop that violence, he said, Congress should pass an updated version of hate crimes legislation, in order to more effectively prosecute those who commit violent attacks based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation.
The growing number of hate crimes against Hispanics also shows the need for tougher laws, Holder said.
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Earlier, a leading civil rights coalition says there has been an increase in white supremacist activity since the election of the first African-American president.
The Leadership Conference on Civil Rights Education Fund reported Tuesday that the economic downturn and fear of immigrants also contributed to the increase.
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(Posted on June 17, 2009)
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An eloquent argument against this obscene “hate crime” law…
http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
On the other hand, he admits that the Arkansas military recruiter being murdered was a hate crime. Since this was a member of the U.S. Armed Forces, and the suspect hated the U.S. Armed Forces, perhaps Holder’s Justice Department could press for hate crime charges.
The only reason that hate crimes laws could possibly succeed in the U.S., is because we have so many ignorant people who are not informed about the issues and who DON’T WANT TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE ISSUES. Even those who often know the danger, will not send a simple fax or e-mail to their representatives and strongly state their disapproval. Millions of people protested the elections in Iraq and could have been shot or jailed. Americans, who enjoy all kinds of protected rights(for now) take it all lying down.
you mean hate crimes like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkn8X0mi3tA
the bro atty general was referring to them right?
I can guarantee that anything this man wants is based in his intention to help blacks some way even if it costs others their security or their futures. He is the servent of the black.
That’s what this entire administration is all about, especially the blacks in it.
As a community organizer, Obama was pre-occupied totally about ways to twist the system any way he could to favor blacks, which covered a period of at least one generation. It was his ultimate goal, the one thing that occupied his mind night and day, 24/7.
So, after being elected savior, is he now supposed to somehow magically transform into an unbiased individual who loves his country and ALL the people in it, rejecting anything that might be favorable for, say, blacks, but of little or no benefit to anyone else?
He rejected placing his hand over his heart when the national anthem was played, and he failed to wear a flag pin, both because he didn’t regard this country as his, nor did he think it was for blacks either. His wife has more alienation for white America than he does.
National health care is for the benefit of blacks. The so-called stimulus bill is no more than a spending program to benefit blacks.
While he DOES administer to the necessities of office regarding international policy and other matters, he goes only through the motions and repeats what he has been told by his advisors. Make no mistake about it. His real and ONLY agenda is the promotion and betterment of blacks any way he can arrange it by hook or crook.
Turning this country into a nation where capitalists merge with government to create a fascist state is in line with creating a society where people who have little ability can achieve more.
I wonder who these underachievers are he has in mind? If you ask the news media who now broadcast from his office, they will say it certainly isn’t blacks.
eric holder the racist, is aiming this law for selective prosecutions of whites, he has mentioned this even long before he was the AG. he is ate up with this mission, and is determined to get it passed. but there will be no prosecution of blacks for these crimes, they will not call it hate crimes, they will just call it crime. i feel sorry for any young white boy who has even a verbal disagreement with a black, because he will be charged with a hate crime. this will grow into speech also. these blacks will not be happy until all white people have to grovel to them and lick their boots, and wash their feet, and our white politicians are supporting this. durbin, kennedy. schumer. polosi, ried, frank, fienstien, biden, and all of the other democrats. they should be voted out of office immediately and when they come back to live amongst us, they should be shunned, and held in contempt.
“Congress should pass an updated version of hate crimes legislation, in order to more effectively prosecute those who commit violent attacks based on gender, disability, or sexual orientation.”
Simply look at who is committing violent crime in America and you can see that violent attacks are based on race, and sexual orientation too.
Time to make every crime of one race against aanother race an automatic “Hate Crime” and double the punishment. I just wonder how Holder would handle that?
“The growing number of hate crimes against Hispanics also shows the need for tougher laws, Holder said.”—-Yes Mr. Holder, tell us all about the ubiquitous black home invasions of Hispanic households (households that are selected because they are either “under-served by the banking industry” or are into drug trafficking) that occur regularly across the nation. And while you are at it, don’t be a coward and fail to talk about ethnic cleansing against Blacks in metro Los Angeles at the the hands of Mexicans and Central Americans. Tell us all about your plans to consistently employ in your prosecutorial arsenal, “hate” enhancements of crimes against offenders of all races.
Why not try upholding laws already on the books, such as those the Black Panthers in Philadelphia violated at the polls?
To Bandmo at 7:15. Exactly right. Would truly enjoy seeing Holder deal with that! Now, if I understand the proposed legislation correctly, then in every single case before the court, both the application of the law and and the penalties, could be different every time and dependent upon the race, gender, national origin, etc., as well as the agenda, of ANY of the parties involved. It all sounds incredibly arbitrary and ripe for abuse. Sounds like legal chaos.
This is so typical of blacks in power. They scream “victim”, accuse whites of being haters, yet they condone or at least turn a blind eye to black hatred of whites. I’m so sick of this double standard with blacks!
A black moslem murders a soldier.
A prolife fanatic murders a baby killer.
A senile, old man shoots a guard at a museum.
Now, as horrible as I think these all are I find it odd that these three rare incidents are a national crisis requiring emergency hate crimes legislation. After all, racist gangs of blacks and hispanics have engaged in all out extermination campaigns in California for a couple of years now.
Mr. elite Caribbean minority should’ve thought about his “hate crimes” (thought crimes) law before he dropped the racist Black Panther voter intimidation case.
Is Eric Holder’s Justice Departmant going to investigate the beating death of 14 year old Christopher Jones, a White boy, in Maryland? I await the Indictments.
Is Eric Holder going to elevate the brutally vicious crimes against Channon Christian, and Christopher Newsome, in Knoxville, Tennessee to “Hate Crime” status?
Or are “Hate Crimes” going to be the protected domain of those who constantly feel offened, that White people woke up today, and left their homes for work, and School?
The real racist is Holder.
“when reasoned discourse is replaced by armed confrontation”. The only reasoned discourse takes place on sites such as Amren. It is not allowed in any of the mainstream media. It is not allowed on television, radio, newspapers, schools, government publications or public gatherings of any kind. Where is this “reasoned discourse” of which he speaks? Except on the internet, I don’t see it. All I see is relentless promotion of “people of color”, mainly blacks, at the expense of whites and anti-white diatribes. When reasoned discourse is not allowed, some hotheads will resort to violence.
Buffalo Bill wrote at 6:36 PM on June 17:
you mean hate crimes like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkn8X0mi3tA
the bro atty general was referring to them right?
> I tried to watch this video, but it was uploaded so badly that it was impossible to view.
I did read some comments, however. These guys are so beyond the pale of misinterpreting history, genetics and such that they are living in their own self-affirming world, much like the circular logic of a religious, “true believer.”
Apply the same same forensic logic to everything and the world WILL change and leave us in the best position.
Eric Holder is obviously going to exploit every act of White intolerance that he can to further entrap and corral any White movement or progress. He is obviously dedicated to disenfranchising Whites wherever possible.
Now as a political minority - at least - Whites must learn be better than their antagonists. This is why Whites who want to see their race survive must be smarter than this Constitution cracking tactic. People like Von Runn only make things worse for a realistic White movement. It would be encouraging to see just one AR poster besides me admit that he was way over the top and hurtful to the White movement.
The Black Panthers that were at the Philadelphia Polling Station during the 2008 Election, should have been charged with Menacing, or at the very least, Loitering.
In New York, at my Polling Place, no one is allowed to stay near the Building once they have voted.
Also, every Polling Place is assigned at least one Uniformed Police Officer.
I think after the way Holder handled the Black Panther voter intimidation case we can all figure out what He thinks of Whites as a group.Maybe if the hate crime law passes he should indict himself. On second thought maybe Holder will have Black Panthers enforce the hate crime laws.
LONDON, 1776:
On Tuesday, Lord Eric Holder told Parliament that recent killings in the American Colonies show the need for tougher hate crimes law to stop “violence masquerading as political activism.”
“Over the last several weeks, we have witnessed brazen acts of violence, committed in places that many would have considered unthinkable,” Holder told Parliament.
The violence, he said, “reminds us of the potential threat posed by violent extremists and the tragedy that ensues when reasoned discourse is replaced by armed confrontation.”
Murder and assault are already illegal. You can already get a long jail sentence for these acts, including life in prison or execution for murder. So just who to they think is going to be dissuaded from committing such an act just because there’s a “hate crime” law? The reality is that such laws are passed not to stop violent crime, but to make certain thoughts illegal.
Anonymous wrote:
In New York, at my Polling Place, no one is allowed to stay near the Building once they have voted. Also, every Polling Place is assigned at least one Uniformed Police Officer.
Shhh, keep that a secret. Remember, the whole paranoid theory that Bush stole Florida from Gore in 2000 was based on a premise that a (“strategically”) parked police car two blocks from a polling place in a black neighborhood was a conspiracy to scare black men from voting. If Holder’s Just-Us Department find out that there’s a uniformed cop at NYC polling places, they’ll move in and call that “discriminatory.” New York City is under the jurisdiction of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, amazingly.
19 — Whiteplight wrote at 2:20 PM on June 18:
Eric Holder is obviously going to exploit every act of White intolerance that he can to further entrap and corral any White movement or progress. He is obviously dedicated to disenfranchising Whites wherever possible.
Now as a political minority - at least - Whites must learn be better than their antagonists. This is why Whites who want to see their race survive must be smarter than this Constitution cracking tactic. People like Von Runn only make things worse for a realistic White movement. It would be encouraging to see just one AR poster besides me admit that he was way over the top and hurtful to the White movement.
You’re not alone, I agree with you 100%. He just made himself a martyr for the “whites are racist and must be displaced” crowd. I’m against violence unless you, your loved ones, and your friends are being harmed. It’s people like this old nut that make pro-white groups look evil and hateful.
The hate crimes law is a 3-pronged legal weapon to be used against whites and only whites:
First, it is to stifle free speech whenever the elite feel like stifling it. This has tremendous consequences.
Second, it is so that whites are sentenced more harshly if they ever intimidate or hurt a non-white, which is much more rare than the reverse, by the way. Non-whites are being set up as untouchable sacred cows.
Third, it is so that whenever a white is beaten, all the minority has to say is that he was called the “n” word or some such slur and was so devastated that he couldn’t help but beat the white person. Of course, since no tape recorder was playing at the time, it will be hard to prove if this is true. In the spirit of the times, the AA liberal judge will most likely rule in the favor of the poor, oppressed minority, dropping the charges against him, while charging the hateful white with hate speech.
Sometimes it seems like we are living the novel of 1984. Everything is leading up to taking all of our rights away.
Whiteplight, most people in America were horrified by the news of what happened at the Holocaust Museum. Not only were people hurt and killed but it was an insult to the memory of the victims of the Holocaust. We send our love and blessings to all families who were hurt emotionally or physically by this attack.
Let’s be honest here. Any AG who witnessed on film what those black panther jerks did at the voting headquarters during the presidential election, then did absolutely nothing in response, says it all.
Whitephlight, I’m horried and disgusted at this man. He killed just regular people doing their jobs. It’s people like him that make the pro-white groups like Amren look bad. As other posters pointed out, this old man just made things worse for us. Anytime you use violence to promote your agenda, you give more strength to your competition.
It is absurd for anyone to be punished more for victimizing someone because of race, religion, ethnic background, etc. It’s no worse for a person to harm someone of another race for racial reasons than it is to harm anyone of any race for any reason. Of course, whites are the ones who get charged with hate crimes, even though minorities are the guilty parties more often than not.
This is SO dangerous. Lefties are poised to nail what’s left of our First Amendment to their wall(we lost freedom of association with Brown v. Board of Ed.). It will be their most cherished trophy. Wake up, everyone! If you throw a rock through a man’s window because you don’t like the color of his house, that is no less of a crime than if you throw a rock through his window because you don’t like the color of his skin. The Left wants to punish thought, and it’s no mystery whose thought will be targeted. We must resist codification of “thoughtcrime.” No person or group has a Constitutional right to be loved and wanted-certainly no group that leads the way in illiteracy, veneraeal disease and crime-and we have a right to dislike or hate anyone we choose to hate or dislike. We must insist on our right to free speech, or we’ll lose it. db
Poster #29: The people on this web site have nothing in common with the Suspect at the Holocaust Museaum.
That is a brush that the Left, and its Black and Hispanic attack dogs, will use against us, when we press the issues, and make our case, for pre-1946 America, since the Military was De-Segregated first.
No, we do not set ourselves up for anything, concerning what a Skinhead, or Neo-Nazi does.
We are not responsible for their actions. They have chosen, by themselves, to take a course of action, that we would stay away from, at all costs.
However, it is not unreasonable to believe that these same people who hold Skinhead, or Neo-Nazi beliefs are also being negatively affected by Affirmative Action, and cannot find work, or attend College, or Trade Schools because of the ever-present
“Quota” System.
Maybe the lack of real opportunities to get married, and start a family, had pushed them over the edge, and in a few instances, caused them to react.
Maybe, they, too, were victims of Black, or Hispanic crime, which only took their loosely held beliefs, and solidified them, sending them into the ranks of the Neo-Nazis.
As far as using Violence to promote an Agenda, the Blacks and Hispanics have that all sown up.
That’s the only tact they take. They either threaten people with Law Suits, which have no real legal merit, or they Boycott and Protest a Store, or Business, until they get their faces on the 6:00 News.
Then we can look at the Hispanic May Day Protests, for the Demand for Amnesty for Ilegal Aliens, on You Tube.
How many thousands of Hispanics clogged various City streets, demanding Amnesty for approx. 30 million Illegals?
Look at the Riot that broke out, when the Jena Six were arrested and Indicted by a Grand Jury, for beating, and kicking, a Teenaged boy in the School yard, nearly to death. The boy was in a coma, for a few days.
The Blacks Rioting in Jena, Louisiana included the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton, among the rest of the Race Hustlers.
The Blacks’ Riot managed to get the Criminal charges knocked down to various violations, and misdemeanors; not the Felonies for attempted Murder that they were looking at, as adults.
I still want to know when members on this site, and other White Nationalists will be holding a Rally for Justice for Christopher Jones, and Channon Christian, and Christopher Newsome?
If not now, then When?