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Nice Day for a ‘White Trash’ Wedding: Pregnant Heidi Klum and Seal Don Tacky Fancy Dress to Renew Vows

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Lizzie Smith, Daily Mail (London), May 11, 2009

They are usually one of Hollywood’s most stylish couples, but Heidi Klum and Seal really let down their guard to renew their wedding vows in Malibu yesterday.

The pair, who have been married for four years, were in high spirits as they celebrated the playful fancy dress occasion with guests including Matthew Perry and Debra Messing.

Their theme seemed to be ‘white trash’—something that pregnant bride Heidi certainly lived up to with her braided hair, low cut jumpsuit and bejewelled accessories.

The barefoot 35-year-old was even spotted with a cigarette hanging from her heavily glossed lips.

For the sake of her fourth child let’s hope that this was as fake as her silver plastic nails.

One thing that was completely genuine, however, was the romance.

Heidi and Seal were inseparable, exchanging kisses and happy smiles as they gleefully celebrated, with the help of their three young children.

British singer Seal wore an American flag shirt and quiff wig for the service, which was watched by around 100 equally outlandishly dressed guests.

They listened to rock and roll and danced at the waterfront house, which belongs to a friend of the couple.

Earlier in the day Seal and Heidi posed for a photoshoot on the balcony of the house in Malibu, California.

Dressed in a short skirt, high heels and crop top, Heidi rubbed her swollen stomach as Seal stood by.

The couple first married in 2005, but have renewed their vows every year since the service.

‘We love it. It’s great saying your vows again,’ said Seal.

‘You remember who it was you fell in love with. It’s also a good excuse to have a big party, and we have a different theme every year.’

Seal recently revealed the couple are expecting a baby girl.

They already have two sons—Henry Günther, 3, and Johan Riley, 2—and raise daughter Leni, 5, from Heidi’s prior relationship with Formula 1 boss Flavio Briatore.

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Before the ceremony Seal wandered around in a “sight-seeing American” outfit.

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1 — Anonymous wrote at 5:42 PM on May 11:

I think Klum gets the race traitor award of the year, she even beats John Mccain

2 — Anonymous wrote at 6:01 PM on May 11:

At least she knows, what she is.

3 — Spartan24 wrote at 6:05 PM on May 11:

That picture made me want to throw up. I don’t know what is worse, seeing him in that outfit or knowing that a beautiful blonde woman is pregnant with her 3rd mixed child.

4 — Eric wrote at 6:50 PM on May 11:

Yep. It’ll always be just fine to make fun of “white trash”, or whites in general. Wonder if the British press would be as thrilled with a “Paki” or other such wedding spoof. Oh and if you really want to be sickened just read the readers comments on the dailymail site. Don’t waste your time trying to comment on it, they won’t print anything we have to say about it.

5 — Anonymous wrote at 7:40 PM on May 11:

I’ve noticed the slow downslide of Heidi since she married the Seal. Seems to happen that way with White women who lie down with the “other”.
Of course he’s happier than a pig in you know what! I really don’t get it.


6 — KC wrote at 7:54 PM on May 11:

This is very funny. I usually find from personal experience that most white women that marry black men are usually low class. I don’t often see middle class or upper class white women married to black men.

7 — Anonymous wrote at 8:10 PM on May 11:

Shame on Klum for killing off her beautiful White bloodline.

8 — Courtney wrote at 8:35 PM on May 11:

Looking at his picture there (or any of his pictures) makes me think “what is she thinking?”. As a Christian I think we are all God’s children and that a black woman is naturally, and should be, well suited to find this man attractive. I think every race has their own purpose and path to happiness, but differences also need to be recognized, and the races should live separately in their own societies. I just don’t get what she sees in a guy who looks so different from her.

9 — Anonymous wrote at 9:37 PM on May 11:

Disgusting. Heidi truly makes me ill, and she is held up as a role model for White children? She is the one that is truly “white trash”.

It is fine and dandy to ridicule and have a “white trash” party, yet let us reverse that and have a White couple have a black ghetto thug party.

10 — Question Diversity wrote at 9:37 PM on May 11:

Only three years away from the seven year itch for him. Though he has never struck me as the most astute of fellows, so the seven year itch might be a few years too late. In that gitup, though, trysts won’t be that easy to come by.

11 — JustPlainMean wrote at 9:56 PM on May 11:

If you have a minute, try googling photos of her children, the one little blond child (by a earlier white guy) & the 2 black ones. Compare & contrast. Pictures truly are worth a thousand words.

12 — Anonymous wrote at 10:03 PM on May 11:

“British singer” That’s definately the most obvious way to describe Seal.

I recall being at a red carpet celebrity gathering a few years ago and was conversing with someone who referred to “Seal”. Having no idea who that was I asked “who’s Seal?” My associate immediately pointed into the crowd and said “that British guy over there”

Needless to say I instantly picked him out from that accurate description and no further explanation was needed.

13 — Tom S wrote at 10:06 PM on May 11:

Heidi has GOT to be on drugs. Seal looks like something out of the stone age!!!

14 — Anonymous wrote at 10:08 PM on May 11:

Beauty and the Beast.

15 — Alexandra wrote at 10:52 PM on May 11:

@Courtney

I too am a Christian, and I agree with you 100%! After all, God created the nations.

If you’re mixed, you really don’t have loyalty to one race/culture or another.

Granted we are all one in Christ, but while we’re on this earth, in our physical bodies, there are the physical differences.

16 — Robert V. wrote at 11:00 PM on May 11:

Klum is a neurotic self-genocidist. She has wiped out her family line forever. She has returned to Africa.

17 — Jeff wrote at 11:22 PM on May 11:

Maybe they are trying to make all parents feel that their kids are very cute by comparison ?
There must be some explanation ?

18 — Stone Greaser wrote at 12:43 AM on May 12:

I love this line, “They are usually one of Hollywood’s most stylish couples…”

If by “sylish” they mean “vomit inducing”, then I wholeheartedly agree.

19 — Anonymous wrote at 12:46 AM on May 12:

“I’ve noticed the slow downslide of Heidi since she married the Seal.”

No, that’s called “age.”

20 — Martha's Vineyard wrote at 1:03 AM on May 12:

I left my comments on the Daily Mail’s page; nothing too over the top. I’m curious if they’ll post it.

21 — Sam Slater wrote at 1:33 AM on May 12:

Looking at his picture there (or any of his pictures) makes me think “what is she thinking?”. As a Christian I think we are all God’s children and that a black woman is naturally, and should be, well suited to find this man attractive. I think every race has their own purpose and path to happiness, but differences also need to be recognized, and the races should live separately in their own societies. I just don’t get what she sees in a guy who looks so different from her.

Posted by Courtney at 8:35 PM on May 11

Courtney,

As a Christian you also realize that racial
differences are meaningless for Jesus Christ.

Since we are all created by God, then it basically
makes no difference if a White person and non-White
person love one another. Ultimately, what matters
more is the after-life and not this life. In the
after-life, race has no place.


How long are you going to be in your White body,
Courtney? Another 30 years maybe, give or take?
So what is going to happen after you leave your
body? You are confusing your body with your soul.
Your White body is like a vehicle and you(ie. the
soul) is the driver. Your vehicle(ie body)is going
to have an expiry date.

You cannot attain God if you are a racist. Being a
racist takes you away from God and the heavenly
after-life. Unless you can learn to love and
accept people for who they are and not develop
aversion simply because of some color reason, you
won’t merit Heaven and God’s love.


Has it occurred to you that maybe Heidi Klum sees
something in Seal beyond his external appearance?
That maybe he is a really cool guy in private and
is actually amiable in nature?

Why do you assume that Klum should necessarily
develop prejudice to Seal on the basis of his
looks? There is more to a person than his/her
looks!

22 — White wrote at 5:28 AM on May 12:

White people should just approve and then when he leaves her we should all take care of the kids (It takes a White village) never condemning what he did because whatever it was it was racisms fault. Smile!

23 — dratyon sawyer wrote at 8:16 AM on May 12:

Seal, in that picture, is a dead ringer for Edward Hyde in the Frederick March version of the film. Well, Hyde was a better dresser.

24 — Anonymous wrote at 8:26 AM on May 12:

“This is very funny. I usually find from personal experience that most white women that marry black men are usually low class. I don’t often see middle class or upper class white women married to black men.”

Not anymore. I see more and more black-white couples where they both look well groomed and from good upbringings. It’s mostly white women with black boyfriends. It goes to show just how impressionable females really are. They believe whatever they are shown because they have a need to be seen as nice conformists. It’s a virtue that turns into a vice when the role models are selfish and destructive. First it was Sex & the City, now they all want to make little miniature Obamas, just like they saw on TV and magazine covers.

25 — Alexandra wrote at 9:26 AM on May 12:

@Sam Slater

Race goes way beyond just skin color.

Then there’s the fact that Canaan was cursed—a servant of servants shall he be to his brethren. That’s why blacks are the way they are today.

Using your logic, one could also justify “gay marriage.”

26 — Southern Hoosier wrote at 9:52 AM on May 12:

Never heard of them

But I’d say they have been watching too much “My name is Earl.”

27 — Civilized Neighbor wrote at 10:55 AM on May 12:

Heidi’s daughter with the Italian guy looks exactly like her so her bloodline will continue through her. In pictures I’ve seen of her and her two sons she just looks like a woman carrying around two random black kids. Note, too, she gave them German names.

28 — Gayle Sollenberger wrote at 11:47 AM on May 12:

There is most definitely something to be learned from these types of relationships and why it seems, celebrity black man generally gravitate towards nordic blonde women. Seal, Tiger Woods, OJ Simpson (of course, we know how that one turned out). James Earl Jones (although I’ll bet his wife was quite beautiful when she was younger), Clarence Thomas, to name just a few.

Of course, there isn’t an iota of attraciveness in Seal. And I say that because when I look at Denzel Washington, I can honestly say that, although I wouldn’t date or marry him, he is attractive for a black man.

On the reverse, you have attractive black women who gravitate towards white guys. However, not as many as black men. Halle Berry comes to mind. Here is an attractive mixed race woman, who was married to TWO black men and had no children by either one. She then meets some attractive white model and bingo, becomes pregnant and has a daughter.

While I’m not a psychologist and couldn’t even begin to explain these relationships, it reminds me of something my mother used to say when I was younger. That black people wanted to be white so bad they could taste it. Why else would they straighten their hair and lighten their skin. They may say they hate whitey and yell it at the top of their lungs but I think that black men and black women who marry whites feel like it the closest they will ever get to actually being white. Of course, on the other hand, my husband says it’s just a way to mutt up our race.

29 — GenX in Oz wrote at 11:50 AM on May 12:

Has it occurred to you that maybe Heidi Klum sees
something in Seal beyond his external appearance?
That maybe he is a really cool guy in private and
is actually amiable in nature?
Posted by Sam Slater at 1:33 AM

I’m sorry, I almost gagged when I read your post. The following is a excerpt from a interview on their first meeting…..

‘Heidi Klum And Seal Tell About Their Raunchy Hook-Up’
24 October 2007
http://tinyurl.com/rxmu8p
“I met him in a hotel lobby in New York City and he came in just from the gym and I was sitting there and I was, like, wow,” Klum told Oprah.
“And I pretty much saw everything,” Klum recalls about her husband who was then wearing bicycle shorts. “The whole package.”

Do you still think Heidi Klum is on a higher spiritual plane?
Please.
Have you got a daughter Sam? would you be proud of hearing her say something like that?
I’m curious out of the Tutsi’s and the Hutu’s, which one of them will get in heaven?

30 — T Rexx wrote at 12:55 PM on May 12:

I have always known Beauty Is Only Skin Deep, if this female were my daughter I would be so ashamed of her and what she had done to our family with her total disregard of who and what she is to lay down with such a creature. I turn off ANY commercial I see her traitor face in and would never buy any product this pathetic excuse for a woman pimps. She seems so proud of what she has done when in my mind SHAME should be what she feels. BOYCOTT WHAT SHE PIMPS ON TV AND ELSEWHERE, let her sell her good to her newly selected people in the Congo.

31 — SKIP wrote at 2:49 PM on May 12:

I don’t often see middle class or upper class white women married to black men.”

I personally don’t think you are seeing one now.

32 — Anonymous wrote at 3:59 PM on May 12:

Civilized Neighbor at 10:55 AM on May 12 wrote:

“Heidi’s daughter with the Italian guy looks exactly like her so her bloodline will continue through her.”

Actually, no. If you remember learning about meiosis when you took Biology in high school, a child only inherits half of the genetic material that will eventually make up its genome from each parent. The genes that make up our external physical appearance (hair color & texture, eye color, skin color & texture, etc) are only a small percentage of the total number of genes in the human genome. There are innumerable internal biochemical processes.

To be sure, however, Klum’s 1/2-Italian daughter (her name is Helene, I do believe) will undoubtedly share a lot more DNA in common with her mother than her 1/2-black siblings due to the simple fact Germans and Italians are of the same race. That would make her more closely related to her mother than them. Try explaining that fact to the multicultural crowd.

Heidi Klum is, in the words of my late Italian grandfather, a “family disgrace.” I’m being kind because how I really feel about her can’t be printed here.

33 — John PM wrote at 6:17 PM on May 12:

“Of course he’s happier than a pig in you know what! I really don’t get it.

Posted by Anonymous at 7:40 PM on May 11”

I am sorry to disagree with you on this Anonymous, but he’s really happier than a pig in: a puddle, a mound, or a septic tank, filled with Comrade Heidi Klum!

I would call her the pig wallowing in the excrement that he is happier than, but that would be an insult to worldwide swinedom!


As for Comrade Sam Slater, regarding this wretched nonsense:

“You cannot attain God if you are a racist. Being a
racist takes you away from God and the heavenly
after-life. Unless you can learn to love and
accept people for who they are and not develop
aversion simply because of some color reason, you
won’t merit Heaven and God’s love.”

How do you presume, in your arrogance and sanctimony, what God wants or will accept Comrade Sam?

Did he come to you last night and tell you that Courtney and all the other “racists” will not go to Heaven, or is that simply your “educated” guess or opinion? Did it ever occur to you that God saw fit to make: myself, Courtney, and all the other “racists,” as you see fit to label as such? Moreover, have you ever considered the Marxist underpinnings of multiculturalism, and its decidedly anti-Christian foundations that distinctly reflect the atheistic nature of Marxism?

I know, that is a lot for you to fully comprehend, so take your time in responding; however, if you never do, we “racists” will also understand that as well. You see Comrade Sam, it is not uncommon for one of your kind to play the blame and shame bomb throwing game, and then never be manly enough to debate the tactics, to say nothing of the “ideals,” that were employed as so much garishly applied rouge on your face as your camouflage at the time.

In fact, that particular brand of cosmetically applied hypocrisy is not only unsurprising around here Comrade Sam, it is expected,

John PM!!!

34 — Courtney wrote at 6:28 PM on May 12:

Sam Slater,

I said in my post that “we are all God’s children”. I believe He loves Aborigines and Africans just as much as He loves Europeans. However, God also created the different races as well as their differences. Just because I think the races should live in their own societies that they created, and just because I recognize differences in the races, doesn’t in any way mean I am a hater. Quite the contrary.

35 — Anonymous wrote at 7:51 PM on May 12:

“It goes to show just how impressionable females really are. They believe whatever they are shown because they have a need to be seen as nice conformists”

I have to disagree. While it is true that more females go with blacks, there are pleny of males who marry outside their race though not with blacks and buy into the multicult fantasy, just look at all these male college professors, media people and such pushing multicult.

36 — SeenItAllBefore wrote at 9:02 PM on May 12:

“You cannot attain God if you are a racist. Being a
racist takes you away from God and the heavenly
after-life.”

Don’t worry. Klum & her dusky kin are still walking around, breathing the air, so we’ve done our Christian duty by them.

I personally have never harmed a black person, & have even been kind to them on occasion. So, lighten up. The God who gave us a brain to know poisonous snakes from harmless ones won’t mind that we can distinguish one race from another.

37 — Civilized Neighbor wrote at 10:13 PM on May 12:

I certainly change the channel now when Heidi is prancing around in her bra on the Victoria’s Secret commercials. I always enjoyed VS commercials before but it’s funny how quickly unattractive someone can become when you learn what they really are. Regardless of the genuine musical ability he may have, Seal looks more like a caveman than any living human being I can think of off the top of my head. Seems like a desparate move on Heidi’s part to stay in the limelight as her modeling career enters its twilight. Just like Madonna, except one takes in a child, the other takes in a 46-year-old man.

38 — Anonymous wrote at 10:22 PM on May 12:

What EXACTLY makes Heidi Klum an “upper-class woman”? Because she was a model? This was just due to her looks and height.

39 — Anonymous wrote at 10:27 PM on May 12:

After reading the comment by Sam Slater I had to gag. Sorry, but I did… You are saying only what you have been brainwashed to say.. all your pc garbage and applying it to God is what is unforgivable. A “racist” won’t make it to heaven? Which preacher out there told you that one? Do you honestly believe the diluting (misceganation) of the races will get you into heaven? Destroying what God made? Maybe you better look up many verses that you have obviously ignored and look up the meaning of some of those words in Hebrew and Greek….

40 — Big Jim Joshua, Lay Minister to the Minions wrote at 10:34 PM on May 12:

According to the Holy Scriptures, the only sin, if it can be called sin, that these two committed was in getting married.

Paul said that it is better to marry than to burn with lust, as Heidi apparently did when she saw Seal in his skin-tights (for the scriptures do not countenance promiscuity).

The Bible means what it says when it states: There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, in Christ Jesus.

There are no cultural distinctions, fleshly distinctions, economic distinctions, sexual distinctions (for in the kingdom, there will be no marriage, no need for it, with all being made complete in Christ Jesus)—NO DISTINCTIONS.

So Seal and Heidi have not violated any of God’s commands, or any promptings of the Spirit.

If you think they have, you will have to do a much better job in your exegesis.

41 — Joe wrote at 10:46 PM on May 12:

Charles Darwin correctly noted that the different species of finches on the various Galapagos islands had all originated from a common ancestor and then branched off.

Because the finches on each island were isolated both geographically and reproductively from other finches on other islands, mutations that arose to allow for adaptation to differing conditions were not absorbed back into a one size fits all finch, and the finches became different species incapable of bearing viable offspring with finches on other islands.

The races of man dance to the same laws as the finches.

The basic human type appears to have dark skin and African features. All others branched off. The difference is that we have not yet made the leap into being different species incapable of bearing viable offspring. But, maybe that day will come.

Those such as Klum are destroying their mutations by allowing them to be bred out of their family lines and they are being absorbed back into the darker human mass. Klum and others who have done what she has done are short circuiting the evolutionary track their family lines were on.

It’s easy for white family to become black. Just mate with a black and you’re on your way.


42 — Realidad wrote at 1:00 AM on May 13:

—-Note, too, she gave them German names.—-

Sadder still.

43 — Spaniard wrote at 1:03 AM on May 13:

I have two words that perfectly describe Heidi Klum:

Damaged Goods

44 — Anonymous wrote at 1:07 AM on May 13:

“While I’m not a psychologist and couldn’t even begin to explain these relationships, it reminds me of something my mother used to say when I was younger. That black people wanted to be white so bad they could taste it. Why else would they straighten their hair and lighten their skin. They may say they hate whitey and yell it at the top of their lungs but I think that black men and black women who marry whites feel like it the closest they will ever get to actually being white. Of course, on the other hand, my husband says it’s just a way to mutt up our race.”

Simple.

It’s called ENVY!

45 — Sam Slater wrote at 1:42 AM on May 13:

Sam Slater,

I said in my post that “we are all God’s children”. I believe He loves Aborigines and Africans just as much as He loves Europeans. However, God also created the different races as well as their differences. Just because I think the races should live in their own societies that they created, and just because I recognize differences in the races, doesn’t in any way mean I am a hater. Quite the contrary.

Posted by Courtney at 6:28 PM on May 12

Courtney,

In my above post, my basic emphasis was on the fact
that we all have to die someday whether we are White,
Black, Brown, Yellow ect ect. Your feeling of racial
difference is largely due to the fact that you are
still living (ie.as a White person). What happens
when you die? Will you still remain White??


The point I am making is that harping about and
getting fixated about race ultimately doesn’t solve
anything because life itself is ephemeral and
temporary. Hence, getting worked up about race is
essentially counter-productive.


I suspect that the real reason that Whites dislike
Blacks is not because of their race/color itself
but rather the fact that Blacks are not as much an
accomplished people like other races. On the other
hand, quite a number of the posters here don’t seem
to have any problem if Whites intermarry with Asians
for example.

I remember reading a quote from a poster called
“School Teacher” :

“Whites who date/marry Asians may have left our race
but they haven’t left civilization”.

” I don’t get the same sense of Bestiality
when I see a White person with an Asian as I do
when I see Whites and Blacks together”.


Anyway life is short. Why waste it in racial disdain
and hatred? Also if God created us humans, then he
must have created us “Black” in the beginning and
not as separate races as you say Courtney.

46 — Anonymous wrote at 1:46 AM on May 13:

Don’t judge, Sam, lest ye be judged. As sick and twisted as your comments are, I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t a spit being prepared especially for you there by the lake of fire.

47 — Sam Slater wrote at 7:44 AM on May 13:


Courtney,

The basic problem with segregation is that it won’t
work in a manner that is fair to all the races in
America. If segregation was something good, then
why did the blacks want integration in the first
place?

And secondly who is going to enforce segregation
in a supposedly fair manner? A White government?
A Black government? A Black and White government?

Where is the evidence that a White govt will be fair
to the non-Whites when it enforces Segregation?

Where is the evidence that a Black govt will be fair
to Whites when it enforces Segregation?

If a govt combined of White and Black can make
segregation fair to everyone, then it disproves the
need for segregation as Black and White can
cooperate at the govt level, so then why not at the
common level?? In other words, segregation fails
on its own premise. Integration is then the only
way.

48 — browser wrote at 8:06 AM on May 13:

Apparently this shining couple are spoofing “white trash”, with their “white trash” wedding. (Btw, I wonder who came up with that charming theme? Will they next have a black pimp & ho wedding?)

But what they fail to see, at least Ms. Klum, is that they don’t have to PRETEND to be white trash, she IS white trash — living and incarnate. All she has to do is be herself.

Just having a pretty, photogenic, face and good bone structure doesn’t mean she has anything inside that vacant head.

And external beauty is fleeting, as she will learn. In a few short years, she will find herself a wrinkled and aging women with several spoiled mulatto offspring, by then grown and probably getting into all kinds of trouble, a source of endless headaches.

Good luck, Heidi! You’re probably going to need it.

49 — Big Jim Joshua, Lay Minister to the Minions wrote at 8:37 AM on May 13:

When I marry any two of my minions, whether they be of a different race or not, I tell them that God sees them as perfect, without sin, because of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Anyone who is indwelt by the Spirit is a new creature;the old things (including race, economic concerns, the well-being of this perishing world) have passed away.

Our concern is to only do the Father’s will, even if it lead us to the coliseum, and the fury of the lions.

Behold, He makes all things new!

To be a Christian, is to be a radical of radicals.

Read the book!

50 — an atheist's view wrote at 8:40 AM on May 13:

Your feeling of racial difference is largely due to the fact that you are
still living (ie.as a White person). What happens
when you die? Will you still remain White??

The point I am making is that harping about and
getting fixated about race ultimately doesn’t solve
anything because life itself is ephemeral and
temporary. Hence, getting worked up about race is
essentially counter-productive.
S.Slater
——————————————————

You’re saying then, (reductio ad adsurdum) that nothing here on earth really matters, as we’re just here temporarily and then will move on to a better place (if one accepts that premise, which I don’t).

So, if nothing here matters, then why worry about ANYTHING? Let the earth fall apart and don’t worry; just say your prayers concentrate on getting to Heaven.

I consider that insane.

Speaking for myself, rather than saying that “we are all God’s chidren”, I would consider that we are all members of the Human species, with different branches [races]. (Basically the same thing, just different terminology.) As such, I wish no harm on any other members of my species; but I will look out for my own family [ie.race] first, and I will not allow any other member of the species to harm it.

[PS. But I must say I do respect Mr.Slater’s obvious sincerity and basic decency. I just feel that it’s misdirected.]

51 — Anonymous wrote at 9:28 AM on May 13:

Sam Slater and Big Jim, Lay “minister” to the minions, are part of the problem..They truly believe what they have posted to our detriment. The verses you quote, you have twisted to make it into something that it was never meant to mean in the way you mean it. You mainstream Judeo-Christians may mean well, but you are feeding the flock a few myths.

52 — Anonymous wrote at 1:39 PM on May 13:

I said in my post that “we are all God’s children”. I believe He loves Aborigines and Africans just as much as He loves Europeans. However, God also created the different races as well as their differences. Just because I think the races should live in their own societies that they created, and just because I recognize differences in the races, doesn’t in any way mean I am a hater. Quite the contrary. - Courtney

With all due respect Courtney, I do not find your arguments particularly convincing. If you believe in God so firmly (to the extent that Christ is all-conquering), why are you so against certain marital outcomes of our God-given emotions? Love after all, is arguably the most powerful of human emotions, and if God intended that our capabilities to love someone be restricted exclusively to members of our own race, surely interracial love would be impossible(after all, you said we are all God’s children, thus God is our universal maker, right?).

To pre-empt those who argue that I’m confusing love with lust, it seems silly to claim that ALL interracial marriages are motivated by lust, devoid of any feelings of love. If you believe that, I think you are being too judgmental or even somewhat mean spirited. After all how do you know what’s going on in a couple’s mind? I don’t either, but considering that marriage is a huge personal commitment, it is far more convincing to me that individuals who bother going through it usually love each other (now there are exceptions). And as Christians, who are we to judge anyway; in fact, isn’t “Judge not that ye be not judged” one of Christ’s fundamental insructions?

53 — William Cutting wrote at 4:38 PM on May 13:

What EXACTLY makes Heidi Klum an “upper-class woman”? Because she was a model? This was just due to her looks and height.

___

Who says Heidi Klum belongs to the “upper class”? I live in Germany and nobody considers her an upper class woman. What education does she have actually?

Being beautiful doesn’t make you “upper class”, nor more intelligent.

54 — margaret wrote at 6:02 PM on May 13:

Big Jim Joshua, Lay Minister to the Minions.

There is no God. The Atheists are right. If there was a God, there would be no (1) Affirmative action (2) Out of control black on white crime (3) The American government would not be in the middle of a successful 100 year program to exterminate White Americans.

Remember what that rich elitist aristocratic communist Lord Bertrand Russell said.

“God is supposed to be all powerful, all knowing and all good.
Horrible, dreadful thiings happen all the time. Good people are destroyed and evil people triumph.

Were God all good, and all powerful he would not permit evil to happen.

God therefore, is either powerless to prevent evil or has the power to prevent evil but permits it because he, she or it is evil”

Christianity is one of the founding stones of Western Civilization, but since WW2 it has formed a large part of the anti White coalition.

I don’t advocate going back to the ancient pagans, but White Nationalists need to be very aware that the Christian churches are as much our enemy as the US Judiciary, ADL, AJC, ACLU, NAACP, SPLC NOW and the United States Government.

55 — margaret wrote at 6:09 PM on May 13:

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, in Christ Jesus.” Big Jim Joshua

Big Jim, St. Paul wrote that around 40 AD about his Christian congregations.

It has nothing to do with the current situation in America where our own government and media are determined to exterminate us Whites.

In Anatolia 40 AD, the male and female, Jewish and Greek, slave and free Christians may have considered themselves all equal, the local government and the Roman Empire of which they were a part, kept the distincitions quite clear.


56 — Courtney wrote at 7:13 PM on May 13:

Sam Slater,

As another poster pointed out, if we are not to worry about race differences why worry about anything at all? My direct answer is that we have concern for our children and our children’s children. It is selfish to only be focused on yourself in the sense that “I won’t be here much longer”.

As for your comment about God creating us black in the beginning, I believe that the races came originally out of Africa and then later separated and evolved as they did, but God had a hand in it, as He does everything that happens.

I don’t get what you are going into in your post on segregation. If segregation wouldn’t be fair for all races as you say, then maybe this is evidence as to why a multiracial nation doesn’t work in the first place. You are answering your own questions here. The reason blacks wanted integration in the first place is because whites created better institutions and neighborhoods than they did. Integration benefits minorities but it is of very very little value to whites.

57 — Anonymous wrote at 8:33 PM on May 13:

The issue is not the individual, who in the end must die anyways, but the survival of the race, culture, community and nation to which the individual belongs and shares ownership of. For example the British isles have ben inhabited for the past 15,000 years. Until 1948 these inhabitants were entirely White. It is estimated by 2100 Whites will be a minority in Britain. In 150 years, 15,000 years of history and cultural continuity are lost forever. The individual does not just belong to himself but to his community, his tribe, race and nation. This is the greater value and purpose which must endure. This is why what the marxist-socialists treasonous Labour party has done is so wrong. It is esentially committing genetic murder of the British nation.

58 — Anonymous wrote at 10:25 PM on May 13:

Right on, Margaret! Especially your last paragraph, posted at 6:02……You said the truth that people (especially today’s Christians) don’t want to hear…They only like what “tickles the ears”.

59 — Sam Slater wrote at 3:41 AM on May 14:


Courtney,

While you are living you are just expected to do
your duty at the worldly level. You can love
your children no doubt but ultimately they are
not yours as their birth is an expression of
God’s will, not yours! Therefore, you are not
to be over concerned about race and what not.


If God didn’t want races to mix then how is it
that a White/non-White couple can have viable
offspring?? There is God’s hand in that too
right??


Again I ask the question, why does race have to
be such a fixation? We can just as well be
bothered about being good and accepting human
beings to all the races, irrespective of color/
racial differences. We can be proud of the fact
that we are all basically spiritually one in
nature and race doesn’t have to matter at all.

Ultimately when we die, we will still be Spirit.
That is our real identity, not Race. So get with
the pace.

60 — Jimmy wrote at 12:08 PM on May 14:

Is this Sam Slater for real? His posts are just cliches.
Consider these gems and my comments to them from Sam:

“If God didn’t want races to mix” writes Sam, “then how is it
that a White/non-White couple can have viable
offspring?? There is God’s hand in that too
right??”

Ah, Sam, if God doesn’t want sin, why can we sin? You see your argument is just silly.

And…
“Ultimately” wites Sam, again,”when we die, we will still be Spirit.That is our real identity, not Race.”

Er, Sam, give us some evidence of this. In fact, our only genuine identity is found in our genes. That’s provable.

61 — an atheist's view wrote at 12:50 PM on May 14:

“If God didn’t want races to mix then how is it
that a White/non-White couple can have viable
offspring?? There is God’s hand in that too
right??”

And I could ask: if God doesn’t want murder to happen, and has a commandment against it, then how are people able to kill each other all the time? Does God have a hand in that too?

Obviously not! So that logic is specious. Just because it is possible and CAN happen doesn’t mean that it SHOULD.

So you’re implying that God DOES want the races to mix, just because it CAN be done? Your logic is very poor.

“Again I ask the question, why does race have to
be such a fixation? We can just as well be
bothered about being good and accepting human
beings to all the races, irrespective of color/
racial differences.”

Race would not “have to be a fixation” if it were not being constantly forced down our throats. Left alone, we would not even think about it.

We can be good and kind to all, and still be with our own. We can be “good and accepting to all the races” without mixing with them. Where is the 11th Commandment mandating integration of “all the races”?

Mr. Slater reveals himself to be a good and decent person, with sincere motivations, which I respect. So there is hope for him. But until he gets over his mistaken religious interpretations and fantasies, he will never be able to think rationally.

62 — Anonymous wrote at 12:56 PM on May 14:

Who says Heidi Klum belongs to the “upper class”? I live in Germany and nobody considers her an upper class woman. What education does she have actually?

I believe I’ve read that she didn’t complete high school.

Being beautiful doesn’t make you “upper class”, nor more intelligent.
Posted by William Cutting

Nor having money either. Probably what people are looking at that she is a millionaire. But that’s a mistaken assumption too. Just having tons of money doesn’t necessarily give you any class.
And she proves it!


63 — Courtney wrote at 7:08 PM on May 14:

Anonymous,

Why did God create the different races to begin with if he wanted them to be destroyed through interracial marriage? I am sure there are a few people here and there who genuinely love someone of another race. They randomly met at the right place at the right time. I am not saying these rare cases should be disrupted or that perhaps God didn’t have a hand in them.

But such cases are in fact rare. What I don’t believe is natural is when white men willingly seek out Asian women or white women willingly seek out black men. None of this would be happening if it weren’t for the anti-white media encouraging this behavior and it most certainly wouldn’t be happening if the races lived separately.

It is unhealthy to willingly seek out a partner from another race for a number of reasons. By doing so you are destroying the white genes that God placed inside you. You are also, in a way, saying that you aren’t happy with the way God created you. I could go on and on with this.

The races are different , beautiful , and unique, and they all create different types of societies. There is nothing racist about wanting my grandchildren to be able to live in the same society God blessed my grandparents with. A mostly minority or a mostly mixed race society will be very unrecognizable and very different from the mostly white society our ancestors always knew and that we to a certain extent still know.

64 — Courtney wrote at 7:41 PM on May 14:

Sam Slater,

Going by your logic we shouldn’t have any laws either. We shouldn’t have any nations and borders should we? Since what happens on this earth really doesn’t matter; what only matters is what happens when we leave this earth according to you. Why did God put us here to begin with? Why is there an Old Testament as well as a New Testament, and why do most of the Ten Commandments deal with the way people interact with each other as opposed to how we act with God? Why is this if our life on this earth doesn’t matter one iota?

Yes, spiritually we are all under one umbrella. And I see nothing wrong at all with white missionaries going to nonwhite countries if that is what they are called to do. Yes, spiritually we are united.

But while we are on this earth, there are obvious differences between the races that God created and we need to recognize them. Black societies are different from white societies because blacks and whites are different, as God made them different.

I am sure blacks are quite happy living out their natural instincts in Africa, and I didn’t think it was right for us to go into Africa and bring them back here as slaves. Likewise, whites are naturally happy in white societies. Just as it is natural for us to feel more comfortable with our families than strangers, it is also natural for us to feel more comfortable with our own race than with another race. It is quite foolish to not recognize this.

65 — John PM wrote at 9:30 PM on May 14:

Comrade Sam Slater notes:

“Where is the evidence that a White govt will be fair
to the non-Whites when it enforces Segregation?”

There is ample evidence in the post-Apartheid South Africa, that such white enforced segregation was much better for nonwhites there, before they became “free” to wallow in the multicultural Marxism they have now. Even a sanctimonious fellow such as yourself must admit that being free of unchecked: famine, violence, unemployment, and deindustrialization, has positives for us terrestrial beings before we become spirits.

Particularly, so that we do not become spirits before our time!

Watch this video from SA by the BBC and learn Comrade Sam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4f0INWfws0

John PM!!!

*KRONOS*

66 — Anonymous wrote at 9:52 PM on May 14:

One’s race is ones nation and family, period.

Sure wish these posters who spout that we are all the same and God loves the races to mix and produce even more mixed breeds would really read their own Bibles! If that were true then why did God make the distinct races, why not just make ONE race or a mixed race of people? God set up boundries,(borders) did he not? Why was that? To separate the people (kind with kind) into their own nations. How about Issac who made sure Jacob got a wife from their own kind? Not a Cannanite as Esau had married.

67 — Heinz wrote at 8:06 AM on May 15:


Courtney,

I was reading your posts to Sam Slater about
how the races should be kept apart and whatnot.

I recall somewhere on this site in one of your
posts a few years back how you mentioned that
you had some family friends who were Indian.
Is that true? And if so, why do you have
Indian friends at all if you believe in
racial segregation?

68 — Anonymous wrote at 5:52 PM on May 15:

Reply to anon at 12:56 PM;

Good point. We should distinguish here between “high class” and “high income”. Many so-called “celebrities” belong in the latter category. Just having a lot of money doesn’t give you class, dignity, bearing or culture.

69 — Anonymous wrote at 7:19 PM on May 15:

To all the previous posters who argued over whether or not Heidi Klum is from the “upper classes”:

Just what exactly makes you believe that a person from the “upper classes” is any more moral or racially cognizant than any member of the Great Unwashed? Gloria Vanderbilt, a member of the legendary Vanderbilt family, dated a black man. Paris Hilton? I don’t even want to go there. Those are just two examples, but I’m sure you get the idea.

Who do you think is forcing all these anti-White laws down our throats, anyway? It’s mainly coming from the members of the “upper classes.” Living in their lily-White enclaves, out of touch with reality, these people by and large care about nothing but MONEY and POWER, and they prove it everyday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ted_Kennedy

Other than some IQ studies (and their bank statements), I have never seen anything that leads me to believe that people from the “upper classes” are inherently any better than the rest of us.


F. Scott Fitzgerald: “The rich are different from us.”

Ernest Hemingway: “Yes, they have more money.”

70 — Courtney wrote at 7:35 PM on May 15:

“I was reading your posts to Sam Slater about
how the races should be kept apart and whatnot.
I recall somewhere on this site in one of your
posts a few years back how you mentioned that
you had some family friends who were Indian.
Is that true? And if so, why do you have
Indian friends at all if you believe in
racial segregation?”

I find posts like this irrelevant, nit picky, invasive, and border lining the category of “personal attack”. I don’t understand why these types of posts get posted.

I have made my stance on these issues quite clear. I don’t understand why I am the only one on here getting drilled on this stuff in a somewhat nagging and abusive manner just because of one post I wrote.

In response to your post, though, I don’t really remember ever saying that. But in any case, I don’t see anything wrong with having friends of a different race. Did you miss the point I was making in all my posts? I am getting tired of having to explain this.

I am not saying we should hate other races. I am just saying we need to do what we can to preserve our’s. Having just a few Indians here and there doesn’t hurt anything, but when we are letting in nonwhite immigrants at a rate that will soon overswamp the white population, there is a problem. That is what I think needs to be stopped. Having minorities making up a third of our population, as they do now, is already a problem as it is. Their cultures and traits are incompatible with our’s.

Gee whiz. I feel like I have to be careful about every word I type because somebody might read into it too much.

71 — Rudy wrote at 10:17 PM on May 15:

I wonder if the white father of Klums first child has ever tried to get custody of the little boy? It must bother him seeing his child being raised around those blacks.

72 — John Liu wrote at 10:44 PM on May 15:

I’m not trying to stir things up here, but would people here have the same visceral reaction when they see a white man kissing a Chinese or Japanese woman, as they do seeing Seal kissing Heidi?

Were people here disgusted by seeing Colin Farell kiss Gong Li?
(I visit this site quite regularly but never saw any mention of this).

And if not why not?

73 — Jimmy wrote at 10:55 AM on May 16:

To John Liu: Speaking only for myself. Yes, that disgusts me.

Here’s why. Whites are a very small minority on this planet and anything that makes miscegenation seem more acceptable can tend to decrease our numbers even more.

Whites need to work to continue to exist. We need to up our birthrate all around the planet or we’re going to go extinct.

74 — Courtney wrote at 11:29 AM on May 16:

John Liu,

That is a very good point. Not all, but quite a few of the white men on here are hypocrites. I say miscegenation is miscegenation no matter who the other party is. If you aren’t seeking out a white partner, you are miscegenating, and you are a traitor to this movement.

As I mentioned above, there are some rare cases where true love happens when two races meet. I am not trying to end those rare cases. However, I think it is very unhealthy when large numbers of white men are seeking out Asian women intentionally because “they are more submissive and make better partners”. I don’t care what their excuse is. They can go after those women for those reasons if they wish, but they shouldn’t be on here acting like they are part of our movement.

Either stay true to our cause and seek out white women as partners or don’t. If you don’t, then you aren’t a loyal member of this cause/movement and you don’t care a thing about your own race and it’s preservation. How could you care about it? You are contributing to our extinction.

75 — ghw wrote at 9:45 AM on May 17:

you mentioned that you had some family friends who were Indian.
… if so, why do you have
Indian friends at all if you believe in
racial segregation?”

I must take Courtney’s side here. I don’t see any harm in having friends of another race. But being friendly with various types of people is quite another thing from inter-marriage with them. Preserving our own race does not mean wishing harm on other races. Why do so many people assume that white preservationists hate all other races? We do NOT! We are not haters. Why do they take this all-or-nothing point of view? For them, everything is either black or white. You either love them or you hate them. It’s a very simplistic way of seeing the world. It’s childlike. While I favor my own family, naturally, that certainly doesn’t mean I hate my neighbors and their families. But while we are friends, we are best off each in our own house. That’s the best way to remain friends.

I wonder if the white father of Klums first child has ever tried to get custody of the little boy? It must bother him seeing his child being raised around those blacks.

I don’t know if her father is alive or if there is a father in her life. Does she have a father? Good question. Come to think of it, I have seen photos of her mother and various female relatives, fussing over her half-breed children — all females, no males. So that’s an interesting question. Just possibly, the absence of any father figure to guide her may explain a lot about her mental framework. Just a guess.

Were people here disgusted by seeing Colin Farell kiss Gong Li?
Posted by John Liu

To John Liu: Speaking only for myself. Yes, that disgusts me.
Here’s why. Whites are a very small minority on this planet and anything that makes miscegenation more acceptable can tend to decrease our numbers even more. Whites need to work to continue to exist.
posted by Jimmy

I don’t even know who they are, and don’t care either, but it wouldn’t “disgust” me (which it would with Seal). Disgust is not the right word. Chinese people are way more evolved than primitive types like Seal.

However, it DOES upset me and distress me. — I don’t approve for exactly the reasons Jimmy laid out above. I hope Mr. Liu wouldn’t approve either.

76 — John Liu wrote at 9:53 PM on May 17:

I hope Mr. Liu wouldn’t approve either

To be completely truthful, Asian women with white men disgusts me, but not Asian men with white women (which is a lot rarer).

I do get sort of thrown by half-breeds however - are they one of us or one of them?

The reasons are completely obvious. Simply biological. On an instinctive level, I am happy with anything that maximizes the potential number of sexual partners for myself or people like myself.

That is why white men will not instinctively recoil from seeing a white man with a non-white woman, but wail and gnash their teeth when they see a black man with a white woman.

And this is why even people like Jimmy had to rationalize their disgust of seeing Colin Farrell with Gong Li - it was obviously not something that simply welled up from the stomach.

The desire to propogate one’s own genes acts on an individual level, not at a racial level. If not it would be impossible for non-white men to find white women attractive and white men to find non-white women attractive. But this is clearly not the case.


77 — Anonymous wrote at 1:22 PM on May 18:

“The desire to propogate one’s own genes acts on an individual level, not at a racial level. If not it would be impossible for non-white men to find white women attractive and white men to find non-white women attractive. But this is clearly not the case.” - John Liu

Agree with you a 100%. The choice of a reproductive mate is instinctively an individual thing; there is nothing systematically racial about it. That’s why people who vehemently oppose interracial marriage/coupling on a societal basis and want to impose laws to that effect are fighting a loosing battle. You might as well give up boys, Heidi Klum will never mate with you just because you are White!

78 — Anonymous wrote at 6:21 PM on May 18:

To Sam Slater and Lay Minister:
If you ever bother to read the book of Revelations properly, you’ll find that even in Heaven we will still be in our respective “nations” (races and ethnicities). Why would the writers of the Bible mention the nations if they truly were irrelevant. And where do you get the idea that none of our earthly identities (which I believe are part of our souls: I have a masculine personality/identity and I believe I will always carry that with me) will manifest in Heaven (by the way the “no Jew and Greek, etc…” only refers to the possibility of salvation, not anything else. Modern Christians never seem to remember that the Kingdom of God refers to an ideal spiritual existence, and has no bearing on what we have to deal with on Earth. If “racists” can’t get into Heaven, then about 99% of all Christians in the history of the world, including many of the saints and Church fathers won’t be there. Your view if Christianity as the “ultimate radicalism” is nothing more than a modern fabrication. Historically, Christianity and Christendom had regarded itself as the guardians of tradition (which is why the Catholics and Orthodox, the oldest churches, have the concept of Sacred Tradition).

79 — Korean dude in Canada wrote at 6:41 PM on May 18:

“I hope Mr. Liu wouldn’t approve either

To be completely truthful, Asian women with white men disgusts me, but not Asian men with white women (which is a lot rarer).

Well fellow Asian brother, I am not disgusted by either. I am past the stage of my life where I get pissed off by seeing who is dating who in public. My own issues keep me occupied and busy. (and happy) interracial dating is still rare in this world. What upsets me is when the education and mainstream media tries to promote interracial dating. It is ok of the mainstream media and public education try to express that there is nothing severely wrong about interracial dating, but it is inappropriate if the media TRIES to promote interracial dating and tell us who to date.

I had my share of interracial dating in my life… and I admit, those ladies taught me a lot and I had such a wonderful, priceless time. I also had my share of rejections by ladies outside my race as well.

80 — Korean dude in Canada wrote at 6:45 PM on May 18:

I remember asking a couple of black girls to dance with me and got refused when I was in junior highschool. it was very shortly after I came to Canada.

81 — Anonymous wrote at 7:48 PM on May 18:

Here’s one White man who instinctively recoils when he sees a White man with a Black woman. He could have created Whites and he chose to create Blacks. Sickening.

82 — tony wrote at 8:30 PM on May 18:

I used to hate them too, but then I met them at a Roger Sanchez book launch in Chelsea (Aug 2008) in NY and they really are deeply in love. I thought it was a stunt. My white husband left me and my three kids, so my viewpoint is get love and affection, where you can!

83 — Korean dude wrote at 1:56 AM on May 19:

And John, I will have to be honest,

If I want to honestly date a wonderful white girl, I will have to be quiet and tolerant regarding white men dating Asian women. It won’t be fair for white men if I disapprove white men to date Asian women while I want to date a white woman… It would be rather selfish if I approve myself and my fellow men to date their women, but disapprove their men to date my women. I know, you are going to talk about the numbers, right? I am still not worried about it. There are always more than enough Asian women for Asian men to choose from, and we Asian men always have the right to choose first before anyone else from outside our race does. I believe that rule applies in all races. Men from the same race always get the first access.

Enjoy yourself in dating world!!

84 — John Liu wrote at 10:19 AM on May 19:

Korean dude: you are an idiot. It is the duty of the men of any race, to maximize access to women. Alexander the Great’s men had Persian women. When the Germans marched into France, it was German men with French women. Likewise Japanese men with Korean or Chinese women. Genghis Khan had the pick of women of many races. And unfortunately now it is many more white men with Asian women than Asian men with white women (although I still prefer Asian - but it is the principle of the thing that bugs me).

So do not feel guilty and think that if you are with a white woman you cannot attack Asian women with white men. This thing is not about fairness or reciprococity. It is about competition. Do you think if Manchester United plays Liverpool and goes up 3 goals, they think, ‘ok lets be fair and let Liverpool catch up a couple of goals?’ Of course not! We Asian dudes have got to learn to play to win. After all that is what everyone else has been doing all along.

And most of all we must regain authority over our sisters and daughters and make sure they do the right thing. Once a race can control their women, then things will run smoothly.

As for whites, only the real losers will date Asians. And only disgusting Asian women will date whites. So in a sense they can have each other.

85 — Fred wrote at 11:37 AM on May 19:

The issue is not about love or dating, but about survival.

Nature screams out: Go forth and multiply more like yourself. The Bible later came up with a similar command.

Nature does not say: Go forth and make more unlike yourself so you’ll die off.

The sex drive is fairly indiscriminate as nature has to engineer living things within a certain basic package with simple defaults that put life on a sort of automatic pilot. To do this,it bundles the command “go forth and multiply your kind” with pleasure obtained via friction.

The pleasurable friction can be obtained in a number of ways. The reason for nature doing this is based on a hierarchy. First, it “wants” life of some type to exist. To ensure this, it has to engineer with some fairly broad tolerances—if you can’t find one of your kind to produce more of your kind, then go to the next closest to you. Then something sort of like you will still live.

86 — Get Real wrote at 12:35 AM on May 20:

Common, realistic motivation for interracial dating:

Lisa Lamponelli: “As you know, I date blacks. Not by choice, I just haven’t lost enough weight to get a white guy.”

87 — Korean dude wrote at 12:50 AM on May 20:

First of all I do not watch English football.

and lol lol just because I agree that other men have the right to date just the way I have the right to date, that makes me an idiot? lol lol

sorry I do not have all day long today.

88 — Anonymous wrote at 1:04 AM on May 20:

The reason my parents brought me to Canada many years ago was not because they wanted me to compete against white men. or compete against white men regarding women. They brought me so I can learn English and learn the North American culture. (and still have a long way to go) When I look at a white man, it is not like, “I am looking at a target. I am looking at an opponent that I must defeat” That is neither what my parents brought me to Canada for nor any of my interest.

By any chance, do you wake up every morning and try to convince yourself, “I must marry a white woman just so I can contribute to help the white race become extinct”

it must be very stressful to live each day in North America for you.

89 — Korean guy who loves his iPod wrote at 4:55 AM on May 20:

John Liu, before you call me an idiot, please answer the following question:

Is the only reason you would ever date or marry a white woman just so you can speed up the process of extinction of another race? If I ever date a woman(of any race), the only reason will be because she won my heart. I am not interested at all in extinction of another race.

“After all that is what everyone else has been doing all along.”

No. Interracial dating and marriage is still rare in this world and overwhelming majority of people in this world date and get married because and only because they are in love with each other, not because they want to put other races into extinction. Actually you are the first person I have ever heard of in my life who wants to date and get married with a woman from another race simply because you want to contribute to the extinction of that particular race. Even on AmRen, very few people wish extinction on other races. That is not what AmRen is about, and if that was what AmRen was about I would have stopped visiting AmRen a long time ago.

90 — Le Philosophe de la Eclair Rue wrote at 8:03 PM on May 21:

“As above, so below.”

“As below, so above.”

Courtney, either it is a physical system throughout, or a spiritual system throughout. There is no great divide.

To my way of thinking, the physical is congealed spirit, just as ice is congealed steam.

So if racial principles apply here, “down below”, then they apply “above”.

91 — ghw wrote at 10:53 PM on May 24:

“Who says Heidi Klum belongs to the “upper class”? I live in Germany and nobody considers her an upper class woman. What education does she have actually?”
Posted by William Cutting


Heidi Klum is well known in Germany. They follow her career. Her picture is on the front of tabloids and celebrity magazines. She even has her own television show.

I asked a German acquaintance the other day what education she has. He replied with a sneer that he don’t think she has ANY education! He added contemptuously that she comes from Gelsenkirchen (which apparently is considered to be the Dogpatch of Germany). He said that there actually is an organization or club that keeps track of her TV show and counts all of her grammatical errors and bloopers.


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