Sean Yoong, AP, May 10, 2009
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To be sure, Malaysia, a Southeast Asian nation of 27 million people, has been remarkably stable since the weeklong mayhem that began May 13, 1969. But as the country marks the 40th anniversary of the riots, its uneasy racial detente is coming under stress.
Ethnic Chinese and Indians, the two largest minorities, have become more vocal in demanding racial equality in part because of growing economic hardships, and Indians staged unprecedented public protests in November 2007. Mindful of the mounting disenchantment, a new prime minister is proposing a partial rollback of a main legacy of the riots, an affirmative action program for the majority Malays.
{snip} As Malaysians have grown wealthier and better educated, they have demanded a more open discussion of race, and the government has acquiesced to a degree. But the shift is also stirring old passions—the Malays and Chinese in particular don’t fully trust each other—and therein lies a risk.
Several Malay ruling party officials have pledged to defend affirmative action “to the last drop of blood,” and a top Malay newspaper urged Malays last month to “rise and unite.”
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The bloodshed of 1969, which took at least 200 lives, erupted when Malaysia was still emerging from the legacy of colonial rule, only a dozen years after attaining independence from Britain.
Racial divisions ran deep. The Malays held political power but were largely poor. The Chinese, many of whose ancestors immigrated in the 18th century, had prospered through trade and tin mining. Indians, mostly laborers, had little say in politics or business.
The riots were sparked by politics. Chinese opposition supporters, whose parties made sweeping election gains, held a victory march in Kuala Lumpur and jeered at residents in Malay neighborhoods. The Malays staged their own rally, and in ensuing clashes, mobs armed with pistols and knives roamed the streets, killed people of other races and torched their homes.
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Seeking to curb economic disparities, the government launched an affirmative action program in 1971 that enabled Malays to get into universities more easily, buy homes at reduced prices and enter business through rules requiring many companies to be partly Malay-owned. The main government-funded schools teach in the Malay language, while schools that use Chinese and Tamil get less aid.
Many Malays prospered. Their share of corporate wealth surged from 2.4 percent in 1970 to about 20 percent today, and they make up nearly two-thirds of the population.
The minorities say it is time to wind up the program. Chinese make up a quarter of the population and own about 40 percent of corporate equity. Indians are about 8 percent of the population and have a stake of less than 2 percent, while the remainder is mostly foreign ownership.
Complaints about affirmative action and religious disputes—such as the demolition of Indian Hindu temples on illegal sites by Malay authorities—became more apparent during the tenure of former Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who governed for five years from October 2003. He is credited with allowing more space for discussions of long-sensitive issues in the government-controlled media and on independent Internet forums.
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Many high-profile disputes are religious in nature. Minorities have complained that Islamic courts—not secular courts—are given jurisdiction in family disputes that involve both Muslims and non-Muslims. Some Malay Muslims consider these complaints as a threat to the status of Islam, the country’s official religion.
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In the capital of Kuala Lumpur, office workers from all races work together relatively amicably. Lunch crowds include Chinese women in skirts and Malay women draped in multicolored, loose-flowing dresses. Very often, they can be seen tucking into “dosa” rice pancake and curry, an Indian favorite.
Though most people still have friends predominantly of their own race, there is interethnic interaction and respect. For example, many Chinese avoid eating pork in the presence of Malay companions.
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History textbooks, referring to the May 13 riots, warn that racial harmony must be nurtured. The last deadly clash—between Malays and Indians—was in 2001 when six people were killed.
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[Editor’s Note: See also Jared Taylor’s essay on Malaysia, “Preferences for the Majority,” here.
Original article
(Posted on May 12, 2009)
Comments
I rcently had the opportunity to hear a man of Chinese ancestry speak reverently of his Chinese nationality.
This man lives in Canada, had emigrated from Malaysia, and had no direct ancestors who had lived in China for at least four generations.
Where stands a Chinese stands the Chinese nation. Ex-pat Chinese are eager to show loyalty and solidarity to the motherland and the race.
Just yesterday I was re-reading Jared Taylor’s piece about Malaysians and majority racial preferences. I think that the Malays are smarter than Whites in America. We give people that are different from us the advantage. They are giving themselves the advantage.Good for them!
Malaysian Chinese might hate AA but they are less vocal and violent compared to Indians. Indians are the poorest(of the three racial groups) and think pro-Malay affirmative action stifles their growth.
I agree with them, Affirmative Action is wrong, but at the same time those successful Chinese were imported, along with Tamilians, by the British to work on rubber and tin plantations. Did the Malays also conspire to have non-AA reserved spots in medicine and engineering only for the Chinese too?
It’s pretty sad that the Malays had to institute an affirmative action program…for themselves…in their own country. The Malay experience should sound a warning bell for Europeans and Euro-Americans.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but on principle, I support the Malay’s right to dominate their own country. The Chinese have China, the Indians have India, let the Malays have Malaysia.
“Indians, mostly laborers, had little say in politics or business”.
Gee….and maybe there was a reason for that.
I agree with them, Affirmative Action is wrong, but at the same time those successful Chinese were imported, along with Tamilians, by the British to work on rubber and tin plantations. Did the Malays also conspire to have non-AA reserved spots in medicine and engineering only for the Chinese too?
Posted by Anonymous at 7:18 PM on May 12
Anonymous,
The reservation system in Malaysia is based on the
For example, out of 100 seats, 60-65 seats will
Only around 5 seats will be left for the Indians.
In other words, due to their much smaller demography
Starting a private business is also not so easy since
So in a nutshell, AA is an undermining force for
“I don’t have a dog in this fight, but on principle, I support the Malay’s right to dominate their own country. The Chinese have China, the Indians have India, let the Malays have Malaysia.”
I couldn’t agree more.
Whether the native population is smarter or dumber doesn’t matter, the Chinese and Indians should go home to their ancesteral lands and allow the Malays to have their own.
This is just another diversity project with different players that has gone wrong, as diverse societies eventually do….and always will….everywhere.
A much more violent repeat of 1969 is in the offing as the world economy continues to deteriorate.
China, and India will be hit the worst: China from a lack of food and water, and India for the same reason, plus they have a diversity situation there that is just waiting to strike like their many cobras.
Apart from anything else the Chinese in Malaysia are 5 or 10 or more IQ points above most Tamils and practically all Malays.
The Malays have a right to a homeland but the problem for them is they want both a country where they are in charge and wealth. But they can’t have both since the Chinese create the wealth.
Whether the native population is smarter or dumber doesn’t matter, the Chinese and Indians should go home to their ancesteral lands and allow the Malays to have their own.
I suppose the English, Germans, Irish, Italians in the US will do likewise. Afterall if the Chinese, who have in been in Malaysia for longer than most whites have been in the US, should go home then so should whites return to Europe.
And if we discuss morality - the Chinese at least did not invade Malaya and do to the Malays what whites did to the American Indians. So if we consider the moral perspective, it could well be argued that the Chinese have more right to be in Malaysia than whites have to be in the US.
China, and India will be hit the worst: China from a lack of food and water, and India for the same reason, plus they have a diversity situation there that is just waiting to strike like their many cobras.
Posted by ice at 3:18 PM on May 13
Nonsense,
America’s diversity dilemma is indeed due to the fact
I have to agree with Anoraj, to a degree anyway. India has its problems, but they learned from the British, they did not waste the experience of colonialism. They have established within their country of a billion peasants or so, a modern nation of a couple hundred million. That’s enough to keep them progressing. Compare them to the Arabs, who have wasted most of the trillions of petrodollars that came to them. What have they to show for it? Gigantic towers in Dubai, designed and built by outsiders, strictly for show.
“China, and India will be hit the worst: China from a lack of food and water, and India for the same reason, plus they have a diversity situation there that is just waiting to strike like their many cobras.”
“Nonsense, Indians in India are related people racially, culturally, spiritually and civilizationally for the
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html
June 2, 2003
“Human rights abuses against these people, known as Dalits, are legion. A random sampling of headlines in mainstream Indian newspapers tells their story: “Dalit boy beaten to death for plucking flowers”; “Dalit tortured by cops for three days”; “Dalit ‘witch’ paraded naked in Bihar”; “Dalit killed in lock-up at Kurnool”; “7 Dalits burnt alive in caste clash”; “5 Dalits lynched in Haryana”; “Dalit woman gang-raped, paraded naked”; “Police egged on mob to lynch Dalits”.
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Arnoraj: “Also, Indians were lacking food and water even 60-70years ago. The condition then was much worse than it is today. Even then they were able to pull together peacefully and make some progress on this front. “
ice: The situation concerning natural resources has never been worse than it is today. Any country that is overpopulated, as India and China, are disasters waiting to happen. Food riots, water scarcity, internal conflicts, will occur spontaneously over minor issues when not enough bread can be found and very little water to quench the thirst of over a billion people.
Shall I give you more examples like the above, plus armed conflicts within the country and the situation with Pakistan that is set to explode any day now? I can, you know. Many more.
In effect, you are saying this country is bad, while India is the epitome of success.
But, let me cut this short by asking you this one question: “If things were so good in India, then why did you leave? Why did you come to our country and add to the multicultural problem that you yourself described?
“I suppose the English, Germans, Irish, Italians in the US will do likewise. Afterall if the Chinese, who have in been in Malaysia for longer than most whites have been in the US, should go home then so should whites return to Europe.”
Why? There is no similarity.
Whites here in America, as in South Africa, settled a wilderness, and pushed nobody out. If you are referring to the PC dogma that whites “stole” Indian land then you are ignorant of history, my friend, and have eagerly lapped up the propaganda disseminated by our Cultural Marxist enemies here who wish to deconstruct our society. And you do so quite gleefully, too, don’t you?
For the most part it was the Indians who greedily trekked to where the white man’s settlements were in order to steal his livestock and other assets. They committed atrocious massacres in the process of that also.
The Indians started an unnecessary war with the white man and got smashed for their underhandedness. Now, all they can do is do as all of you non-whites do, and that is to whine about some kind of alleged injustice.
“And if we discuss morality - the Chinese at least did not invade Malaya and do to the Malays what whites did to the American Indians. So if we consider the moral perspective, it could well be argued that the Chinese have more right to be in Malaysia than whites have to be in the US.”
The Chinese and Indians most certainly DID invade Malaysia, just as the Mestizos invaded our land, trying to push us out, and which your kind is trying to do to us also.
China is a decadent country that is going to realize ungodly shortages of food and water in the next few years. Already there have been riots there because of the serious drop in exports now taking place, and with over a billion mouths to feed and water any slightest imbalance in supplies will have the potential to be a catastrophe.
But let me ask you the same question I asked the Indian: If you think whites are so bad, why did you come to our country?
Of course, the answer is that you came for the same reason he did. Neither of your peoples have the ability to create a successful society in your own countries, and you come to our land splitting us into tribal factions, criticizing us every chance you get and spitting on our ancestor’s graves.
You can whine all you want, but your mere presence is proof of your failure. If you dislike whites and fail to recognize white accomplishment so much, why do you stay here?
We have been successful as a result of our abilities; you have not. If you had been, you would be in your own country right now.
The Malays have a right to a homeland but the problem for them is they want both a country where they are in charge and wealth. But they can’t have both since the Chinese create the wealth.
Posted by Anonymous at 8:50 PM on May 13
The only basic reason why Chinese are successful in
India’s “Untouchables” Face Violence, Discrimination
June 2, 2003
“Human rights abuses against these people, known as Dalits, are legion. A random sampling of headlines in mainstream Indian newspapers tells their story: “Dalit boy beaten to death for plucking flowers”; “Dalit tortured by cops for three days”; “Dalit ‘witch’ paraded naked in Bihar”; “Dalit killed in lock-up at Kurnool”; “7 Dalits burnt alive in caste clash”; “5 Dalits lynched in Haryana”; “Dalit woman gang-raped, paraded naked”; “Police egged on mob to lynch Dalits”.
I find it funny how the Western Media is utterly
These caste clashes that you talk about largely
“Ice,”
“I find it funny how the Western Media is utterly
Ice: Now, you’re referencing bias, my friend. First you told us of how peaceful and serene India was and how everbody got along, not like the USA, you wrote. Now you’re giving us reasons for the conflicts and telling us there is one-sided reporting about them. Isn’t that an admission that what I said was true? I checked the facts. The above story is absolutely correct. Besides the above, there is horrendous violence in India. It’s backward also, because only part of the country even has toilets. It has been estimated, by scholars on the subject, that 50% of Indian children go to bed hungry.
“Dalits are in fact the King-makers in India today.”
ice: Doesn’t sound much like a democracy to me if one single faction dictates who is on top.
“These caste clashes that you talk about largely
ice: Well, since you admit caste clashes occur, your claim of peace and happiness and no problem with diversity exists, does it?
“Another thing you need to keep in mind is that Caste
ice: Who is claiming that caste is an ethnicity or race? When any population is divided intensely along any lines the result is diversity. And diversity is VERY dangerous.
Too, what you are apparently unaware of is that many different ethnicities are involved in the settlement of India, and it has been claimed by anthropologists that whites at one time inundated the area, which is probably true, because many Indians have striking white features.
Most of the caucasian-featured types of India live in the northwest states, but not exclusively. Orissa people look very australoid/mongoloid, the types found in Southeast Asia.
And all you have to do is look at the photos of Egyptian mummies to find ones with blond and red hair, a coloring found only among whites. Also take a look at the busts of the Roman Cesaers, or Alexander the Great, the Macedonian who had bright blond hair, or many othe historical evidence, as to what the people looked like around the Mediterranean and even into North Africa, and the Middle East.
“As for the armed conflicts within the country,
ice: Well, here again, my friend, you are admitting to conflict.
“Lastly, I never said America was a bad country.
Quote from your post: Ice: “China, and India will be hit the worst: China from a lack of food and water, and India for the same reason, plus they have a diversity situation there that is just waiting to strike like their many cobras.”
Arnoraj: “Nonsense,
ice: Doesn’t the above quote from your post say that, “Indians are compatible with one another, so there is
I’m not trying to “sharpshoot you, my friend, but the tone of your entire post, unintentionally it now appears, seemed a bit derogatory, and you contradicted yourself many times.
Keep in mind that most non-whites we get on this site are like the Chinaman above who is telling us we are killers and steal other people’s lands. Right away the inclination is to go into attack mode if a post has a derogatory tone.
I wish the Indian people well, myself, but I still have to say that China and India are in for great problems before this depression plays itself out, because of severe overpopulation and rapidly declining natural resources.
Likewise, there will be great turmoil here in the US and throughout the Western world, because of the many different tribes that have fled their failed countries to come to our prosperous one.
And many of these same people hate us, because we have domination and control and they want this country for their own, so long as it is extremely wealthy. The Chinaman above is only one of millions who think exactly as he does.
Our greatest weaknesses is that we have cowardly, spineless leaders who have allowed our land to be inundated with people who are not of our race and culture. We will erupt into tumultuous civil upheaval because of it.
Soon, that point will not have to be supported with debate, because observable facts don’t neccessitate debate, since they are occurring for all to see. Don’t take my word for it. Wait awhile, then see for yourself.
“many of these same people hate us, because we have domination and control and they want this country for their own, so long as it is extremely wealthy. The Chinaman above is only one of millions who think exactly as he does.
Too, what you are apparently unaware of is that many different ethnicities are involved in the settlement of India, and it has been claimed by anthropologists that whites at one time inundated the area, which is probably true, because many Indians have striking white features.
Most of the caucasian-featured types of India live in the northwest states, but not exclusively. Orissa people look very australoid/mongoloid, the types found in Southeast Asia.
Posted by ice at 2:59 PM on May 16
No, you are mistaken completely. The last
About 5000 B.C., and forward, caucasians literally inundated parts of your area, and other parts of Asia, as well as the entire Mediterranean area well down into North Africa, as part of the great Caucasian migration. However, today, in many areas they have been absorbed into the Arabs, Semites, and a small number into the Nubian population, but it isn’t unusual to find many Lebanese, Iranians, Afghans and, yes, Indians, who could pass for white. Remember the cover of Life mag I believe it was, or Time, of the green eyed Afghan? She could pass for German, English, French, whatever.
And all you have to do is look at the photos of Egyptian mummies to find ones with blond and red hair, a coloring found only among whites. Also take a look at the busts of the Roman Cesaers, or Alexander the Great, the Macedonian who had bright blond hair, or many othe historical evidence, as to what the people looked like around the Mediterranean and even into North Africa, and the Middle East.
Posted by ice at 2:59 PM on May 16
The reason for this dichotomy is that non-
That is the basic reason why there is a
What I believe that Mr.Arnoraj is saying is
“The Chinaman above is only one of millions who think exactly as he does.”
“That’s what they think. Little do they know that “we” don’t really have the “domination and control” that they think we have. The joke is ultimately on them.”
Finally, I have come to understand that this is not “our” country at all; we just live here. If we were truly the bosses and owners, would we be permitting ourselves to be replaced? Would we be passing discriminatory legislation against our own kind, penalizing our own descendents? We are like tenants in an apartment building which has come into the possession of new owners. We are just occupants, not owners, rentpayers living on someone else’s property. It was once ours, true, but it’s not now.
But we’re allowed to go on thinking that it is. That keeps us from making trouble. The realization that it’s not could be very unsettling to a great many. The new owners don’t need that kind of trouble.
If anybody has any doubts about what the Indian
“The Division is not based upon any
“When Brahma created mankind, everyone was
“With time and degeneration of the mind and
“A Brahmin who is princely, passionate,
” A Brahmin who protects the cow but earns
“Those who love violence, falsehood, are
“All castes have their birth in Brahma(God)
“All are born pure. They are
“One who follows the Vedas is a Brahmin.
Rig-Veda: 5/60/5
“There is no difference amongst people
“Krunvantu Vishvam Aryam” (Sanskrit phrase)
Meaning: Make the whole world Aryan.
The word Arya/Aryan basically means noble
Sanskrit Passage: “Chaturvarnyam Maya Shrishtam
Hindu God Krishna speaking to the Hero Arjuna.
Meaning of the passage: The four-fold system
Amoraj: Is it true that some Hindus regard Hitler as a
Amoraj: Is it true that some Hindus regard Hitler as a
Posted by Eric the Red at 1:39 AM on May 20
Eric the Red,
Actually, the Basques are genetically/racially
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_people#Genetics
The Finns are also genetically/racially connected
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_people#Genetics
The very fact that the Basque have been living in
As for the Mittani, note carefully that the
For more information on the Indo-European migrations
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/rig/ch6.htm
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/rig/ch7.htm
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/rig/ch5.htm
