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Hana R. Alberts, Forbes, May 11, 2009

Richard Nisbett used to be a universalist. Like many cognitive scientists, the University of Michigan professor held that all people—from the Kung tribe that forages in southern Africa to programmers in Silicon Valley—process sensory information the same way. But after visiting Peking University in 1982 and partnering with an Asian researcher, Nisbett found his beliefs challenged.

He embarked on a project to probe the thought processes of East Asians and European Americans. His experiment presented subjects with a virtual aquarium on a computer screen.

“The Americans would say, ‘I saw three big fish swimming off to the left. They had pink fins.’ They went for the biggest, brightest moving object and focused on that and on its attributes,” Nisbett explains. “The Japanese in that study would start by saying, ‘Well, I saw what looked like a stream. The water was green. There were rocks and shells on the bottom. There were three big fish swimming off to the left.’”

In other studies Nisbett discovered that East Asians have an easier time remembering objects when they are presented with the same background against which they were first seen. By contrast, context doesn’t seem to affect Western recognition of an object.

“I thought there wasn’t going to be any difference, and then we kept coming up with these very large differences,” says Nisbett, a stately, white-haired man of 67, as we sit in the Upper East Side headquarters of the Russell Sage Foundation. In lieu of his regular salary, he has a grant from Sage to research the nature of intelligence while on sabbatical from Michigan’s psychology department, where he has taught since 1971.

Scientists now attach gizmos to people’s heads that track eyeball movement; these experiments have confirmed Nisbett’s findings, recording that Americans spend more time looking at the featured object in an array while Asians take in the entire scene, darting between background and foreground.

East Asians see things in context, while Westerners focus on the point at hand; the former are dependent, the latter independent; the former are holistic, the latter analytic. There’s a social aspect to these differences: Asians are collectivistic, Westerners individualistic.

Even if cognition does differ across cultures, why should we care? For one thing, it might help explain why we’re prone to bubbles. In Nisbett’s 2003 book The Geography of Thought he describes a study in which students were shown a graph with a line snaking upward across it, representing a trend like world deaths from tuberculosis or the gdp of Brazil. Investigators asked subjects to indicate how they thought the trend would continue. Many Americans sketched a line that continued skyward, while most Chinese forecast a peak and then a decline. A colleague of Nisbett’s also showed that while Canadians predict a stock whose value is rising will continue to rise, Chinese think what goes up will come down. An intriguing difference, although one wonders if 1998’s pancontinental financial crisis in Asia or the real estate and stock market crash in Tokyo affected students; in the U.S. the Nasdaq crash of 2000-02 was not as memorable. Nisbett doubts the theory but admits “the Confucian idea that the future will resemble the past is deeply ingrained in the Asian mind.”

He reasons that cross-cultural differences can also explain societal phenomena. Nisbett defines a nation’s preference for lawyers over engineers as a ratio: the number of the former divided by the number of the latter. When he compared America’s ratio to Japan’s, he found that the U.S. preferred lawyers over engineers 41-to-1. The American system, he says, prizes win-or-lose judgments, while Japan’s preference is for middlemen who draft compromises.

In his most recent book, Intelligence and How to Get It: Why Schools and Cultures Count, Nisbett asks why Asian-Americans score higher on the sat than other Americans and why students in Asian nations do so much better on international math and science exams than their U.S. counterparts. The answer is not, Nisbett says, that Asians are smarter. Rather, he writes, “Asian intellectual accomplishment is due more to sweat than to exceptional gray matter.” The tests measure proficiency as much as innate skill, and the proficiency comes from cultural forces, such as the Asian sense of obligation to the family. Another factor is that math lessons in Asian schools have a student working out a problem on the board as classmates chime in. That kind of collectivism confirms the commonly held belief that learning by organic induction is more effective than rote memorization.

Why do you find, in a music conservatory, a lot of Asian would-be concert pianists but comparatively few Asian opera-singers-in-training? There’s a physical limit to how many hours a day a person can sing, Nisbett says, but not to how many hours one can practice sonatas.

He attributes these differences to history. East Asian agriculture was a communal venture in which tasks like irrigation and crop rotation had citizens acting in concert. In contrast, Western food production led to more lone-operator farmers and herdsmen. Greek democratic philosophy emphasized the individual; the Reformation stressed a personal connection to God; the Industrial Revolution made heroes of entrepreneurs. But in Asia, Confucius said virtue hinged upon appropriate behavior for specific relationships, say, among siblings, neighbors or colleagues.

These tidy generalizations are not without critics. A San Francisco State University professor who edits the Journal of Cross-Cultural Psychology, David Matsumoto, holds that while Nisbett attaches his observations to fascinating raw data, he takes some conclusions too far.

“In cross-cultural work researchers are too quick to come up with some deep, dark, mysterious interpretation of a difference with no data to support it,” Matsumoto says. “It’s difficult to draw one conclusion [from] a snippet of behavior, and that’s what this work tends to do.”

Though Nisbett believes our behaviors are shaped by 2,500 years of history, he also thinks they are malleable.

“I got interested in whether you could make people better at reasoning and problem-solving by certain kinds of education, and it turns out you can,” he says. If Americans are asked to think about how they are similar to other people they know, they view the aquarium scene more like Asians—and vice versa. “So these things aren’t necessarily locked in.”

When it comes to cross-cultural business, Nisbett observes, East Asians want to establish relationships, while Westerners tend to keep their business connections at arm’s length. Westerners operate by the exact wording of a contract, while East Asians hold that if circumstances change, so should the agreement. Marketers, of course, are aware of cultural differences. For the same phone, Samsung emphasized contrasting messages: In the U.S. the message was “I march to the beat of my own drum,” whereas in Korea the ad campaign focused on families staying connected.

But Nisbett noticed shifts within the Asian cohort last year, after he observed a group of Chinese students at a Procter & Gamble focus group.

“My goodness, they were as lively as any group of American graduate students I’ve ever had. If I said something they didn’t agree with, they let me know. . . . I would never, ever feel that way with Japanese or Koreans, who are more concerned with harmony,” he says. “I think the Chinese will be more successful than the Japanese have been because they have that sense of obligation to family, but they’re also going to get this more Western attitude of wanting to succeed as individuals.”

Perhaps, Nisbett speculates, the personal drive one sees in Chinese entrepreneurs is a consequence of China’s one-child policy. Because two parents and four grandparents dote on an only child, individualism is emphasized more than it used to be. As a result, Chinese youth are moving in a Western direction.

In the last half-century Japan has undergone a huge shift toward democracy, but this hasn’t been accompanied by an increase in individualism, Nisbett says: “Japan is evidence that nothing changes. China is evidence that things can change like mad.”

Why is Nisbett something of a lone wolf in studying the role of geography in cognition? His answer: “A lot of politically correct academics can’t stand to hear about differences. They automatically assume that if you’re pointing to difference, you’re assuming superiority of your own culture. Well, that’s just nonsense.”

The upshot of Nisbett’s research is that differences are real. They might not always be for the better, but they matter. Perhaps Americans should temper their optimism, Asians their reluctance to take center stage. For it seems to Nisbett that those who will be most successful in the 21st century are the ones who grasp what’s best about both worldviews.

Original article

(Posted on May 1, 2009)

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1 — Harumphty Dumpty wrote at 8:18 PM on May 1:

Well whadd’ya know, races are different—who would’ve believed it!

I hope this gentleman is off to Africa next—white Americans might accept that Asians think differently from them (there’s a little less political charge on that), but never that Africans do, it sometimes appears.

2 — Icey Key wrote at 3:23 AM on May 2:

This story keeps getting rehashed and reprinted in the press constantly. Yet studies that show Caucasians having higher perceptive skills when viewing pictures / scenes etc quickly disappear down the memory hole. Why is that? One has to wonder if Nesbitt is being honest or just looking for grant money by being politically correct. After all, many, many whites are fully aware that history repeats itself, as it is now doing on a larger scale. Whites always have to be insulted, either directly or in roundabout ways. Here’s something that everyone out there should do. Ask lawyers or police officers just how good Asians are as witnesses when it comes to remembering an incident or the scene of a crime etc. They are actually notoriously bad - and this is when they are willfully trying to aid the police. If you ever find any professors putting forth work that shows whites doing well at something, please send up a flare to let us know. The landscape is mighty dark at the moment.

3 — Anonymous wrote at 10:33 AM on May 2:

“why students in Asian nations do so much better on international math and science exams than their U.S. counterparts.”

Easy, Asian schools haven’t been “dumbed down” for blacks and mexicans like american schools have been. American schools used to be top notch. Just 50 years ago, california students scored extremely high in math and other areas internationally. Now, after years of 3rd world immigration, they’re at the bottom.

4 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 1:55 PM on May 2:

Anonymous 10:30 AM has hit the nail on the head about class material being dumbed-down. Former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone once explained higher Japanese test scores in exactly the same manner - that Japan doesn’t have blacks and Mexicans lowering the average. Since he had no black or Mexican constituents, I imagine he wasn’t worried about losing votes over this remark.

Nisbett’s suspicion that the one-child family in China has provoked more individualism makes sense. The problem they’ll have to deal with is their lopsided sexual demographic among young people, with two men for each woman. On the other hand, he isn’t quite right about Japanese. Their individualism is - for lack of a better description - compartmented, rather than nonexistant. They take their hobbies VERY seriously.

5 — Anonymous wrote at 5:21 AM on May 3:

Michael C. Scott at 1:55 PM on May 2 wrote:

“Former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone once explained higher Japanese test scores in exactly the same manner - that Japan doesn’t have blacks and Mexicans lowering the average. Since he had no black or Mexican constituents, I imagine he wasn’t worried about losing votes over this remark.”

I remember PM Nakasone. Actually his remarks did kick up a firestorm over in Japan, but mainly due to pressure from this country (“We have met the enemy and they are us!”).

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101861006-143333,00.html

6 — Anonymous wrote at 1:39 PM on May 3:

More than 70 Mexicans quarantined in China
By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN – 2 hours ago

BEIJING (AP) — More than 70 Mexican travelers have been quarantined in hospitals and hotels in China as part of sweeping anti-swine flu measures, the country’s ambassador to Beijing said Sunday.

Mexicans were being asked to identify themselves on arriving flights and isolated from other travelers after landing, Jorge Guajardo said in an interview.

In one case, a Mexican couple and their three small children were rousted from their hotel room at 4 a.m. and transported to a hospital, he said. None of those in isolation has presented symptoms and most had no contact with infected persons or places, he said.

“In many cases we have gotten reports that they were being quarantined for the sole fact that they had a Mexican passport, whether or not they came from Mexico, whether or not they had been in Mexico, whether or not they had been in contact with someone else from Mexico,” Guajardo said.

Not even the country’s diplomats have been immune. The Mexican consul general in the southern city of Guangzhou was briefly held for checks after returning from a Cambodian vacation last week, Guajardo said.

China’s authoritarian government doesn’t stand on niceties when shifting into crisis mode, locking down much of the country during last summer’s Beijing Olympics and sealing off Tibetan areas following anti-government protests last year.

Its responses can often be extreme, shifting from neglectful to over-the-top. During the 2003 outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, officials went from denying they had a problem to shutting down much of the country and quarantining scores of people virtually overnight.

Guajardo said Chinese officials have not furnished the consular notification for Mexicans in quarantine and access he said they were required to provide under an international treaty.

Mexican Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa has called the quarantines in Beijing and elsewhere discriminatory and urged Mexicans not to travel to China until the situation is resolved.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Sunday it had no comment on the complaints and calls to the Health Ministry rang unanswered. But at a news conference Sunday, officials in southern city of Shanghai said the harsh measures were warranted and legal under Chinese law.

“This is for the sake of their own personal health and for the rest of society,” said Xu Jianguang, director of the Shanghai Health Bureau. “I believe they will understand.”

Associated Press writer Elaine Kurtenbach in Shanghai contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

7 — Le Incroyable Hulk wrote at 5:16 PM on May 3:

When I read this story on AR some time ago, the full import of it escaped me. I thought, What’s wrong with seeing things in context? That would be a useful skill for anyone!

But the full import is this: The Asian propensity to giving everything equal weight is due to their leveling attitude. As their saying says, The nail that sticks up too much is the first to get hammered down! Perhaps this explains their communitarian approach to things.

Europeans, on the other hand, give more weight to that which is prominent.

Perhaps this also explains why they are such bad drivers (I think someone brought this out earlier)?

Interestingly enough, the French New Right author, Alain deBenoist, puts forth the propositon that MONOTHEISM leads to a sterile conformist communality in his book, On Being A Pagan.

8 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 5:20 PM on May 3:

Nakasone was a strange fellow in another respect, according to my wife, who is from another old Imperial Navy family. Nakasone had been a navy man during the Pacific War, and wore black for about 20 years after the surrender.

9 — Nick wrote at 12:36 PM on May 4:

“East vs. West”?

All you need to know is people from the East move to the West.

Rarely, if ever, do people from the West move to the East.

10 — Anonymous wrote at 1:12 PM on May 4:

Answers the question of the related article: Why was there no Chinese Newton?

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3769/print

11 — Anonymous wrote at 7:42 PM on May 4:

Another reason why Asians in America do so well in mass tests is none other than cheating. Paying someone to take the test, signing up for a sure fire test prep course advertised only in Asian language periodicals, all these methods are used.

Every once in a while the test prep cheaters are caught. In one instance, the cheaters wore glasses with a tiny speaker embedded. The cheaters flew to California to take the test.

Expert test takers on the east coast 3 hours ahead of California took the test and recited the correct answers. The answers were transmitted to California. The cheaters listened to the tiny transmitter in their fake eye glasses and got the correct answers.

Many university teachers have found the same Asian taking difficult courses under different names, for pay of course.

Think you’ll have a problem with chemistry? Hire someone who will take the course for you.

12 — Anonymous wrote at 10:17 PM on May 4:

“Nakasone had been a navy man during the Pacific War, and wore black for about 20 years after the surrender.”

The Japanese are an honor society, and unlike the Germans are NOT in a state of permanent apology for their past. Many nationalistic types in Japan are more than slightly open in lamenting their loss of WWII. It is slightly disconcerting from an American perspective but as a society it is much healthier than than the sorry state in which we find The West.

13 — Anonymous wrote at 12:34 AM on May 5:

In Los Angeles, Black female proctors, proof against any charges of prejudice, separate all Asians before civil service tests begin. In other parts of California, seats are assigned, of course making sure that no Asians sit next to each other. And thumbprints have become common, to guard against professional test takers. It seems that a lot of Asians have as much regard for our rules as they do for us.

14 — A Real Spaniard wrote at 9:08 PM on May 7:

I’ve mentioned this before on other threads. When I was at UCLA back in the 1980’s, I was taking a physics exam in a lecture hall with a lot of other students. The campus police came in and locked the auditorium down. They then went to each student, checking ID. The gist of the story is that 7 or 8 Asian males were removed from the class and arrested. They were grad students taking the test for some freshmen. Turned out this had been going on all time. Later in the quarter they pulled some other Asian kids out of the classes for cheating. The University was so PC, even back then, that they NEVER mentioned any of this, it didn’t make the news. Apparently it still goes on. The only other group I saw get nabbed this way was Persian students here and there at UCLA, pulling the same stunts.

The above story gets re-hashed all the time. But I think the “professor” is just angling for grant money, because other tests have shown the exact opposite.


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