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Africans Must Travel to the Moon: Uganda President

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AFP, May 2, 2009

Africans must travel to the moon to investigate what developed nations have been doing in outer space, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said Saturday.

“The Americans have gone to the moon. And the Russians. The Chinese and Indians will go there soon. Africans are the only ones who are stuck here,” Museveni said, addressing a meeting of the Uganda Law Society in Entebbe.

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

Museveni urged the assembly of Uganda’s top lawyers to support East African integration, arguing that one of the region’s goals should be to develop a space programme.

“Uganda alone cannot go to the moon. We are too small. But East Africa united can. That is what East African integration is all about,” he said. “Then we can say to the Americans: ‘What are you doing here all alone?’”

Museveni has vocally campaigned for a common East African economic and political zone.

Negotiations to establish a tariff free trade zone including Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Burundi and Rwanda have been ongoing for months.

Museveni on Saturday also called for enhanced political integration among the East African nations, suggesting the region would be strengthened by becoming one country.

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(Posted on May 4, 2009)

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1 — charlie sierra wrote at 6:04 PM on May 4:

Hhhhmmmm. Maybe they can cobble together a cardboard box and some wires. It just might work…I’ll keep my eyes skywards in anticipation.

2 — Question Diversity wrote at 6:22 PM on May 4:

All these countries combined probably don’t have the GDP of any one U.S. state.

There are posters here on AR that joke about the far off day that whites start colonizing space, that minority advocacy groups and/or their white fellow travellers like ADL and SPLC would start demanding that space be integrated, in order to give the Earth-stuck minorities a better environment. Turns out that not everyone thinks it’s a joke.

BTW, the Russians have not landed men on the moon.

3 — Dave wrote at 6:28 PM on May 4:

“Museveni urged the assembly of Uganda’s top lawyers to support East African integration, arguing that one of the region’s goals should be to develop a space programme.”
I beg everyone’s forgiveness, but I can’t get the image of Wile E. Coyote out of my mind. I can see them strapping an Acme rocket to the rear end of one of their first “astronauts” and watch it fizzle and crash into a mountain!
All joking aside; an ambitious man who lacks prowess brings nothing but ruin to himself and those around him.

4 — Anonymous wrote at 6:44 PM on May 4:

Didn’t I read an Amren article on how South Africa could not find qualified black pilots and mechanics for their air force? Even if Africa unites and tries to go to space they will just blame Whites for their failure in that gaol.

5 — Bill wrote at 7:00 PM on May 4:

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

This is just too funny and weird on so many different levels. I would love to see this happen, I really would. I keep breaking into a grin followed by mild laughter.

6 — John PM wrote at 7:01 PM on May 4:

“Uganda alone cannot go to the moon. We are too small. But East Africa united can. That is what East African integration is all about,” he said. “Then we can say to the Americans: ‘What are you doing here all alone?’”

No matter where we go, the African seems determined to follow!

Are they afraid if whites all leave the planet for the moon and Mars, that their free lunch will be over? More interesting, is this question: just how do they hope to build a spaceship to get to the moon, when they cannot even maintain decent commercial airlines?

I guess: Europe, North America, and Asia, are just supposed to give them spacecrafts and of course magically “transfer the knowledge” as to how to fly them?

As always, God help us all!

7 — SKIP wrote at 7:14 PM on May 4:

I’ve said before, we must not let blacks or muslims into space and I say it again. I think though, that some bleeding hearts Christian group will try to help them do it.

8 — Anonymous wrote at 7:18 PM on May 4:

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

Scheming and plotting with the Moon Gods to take foreign aid away from African dictators.

9 — Anonymous wrote at 7:21 PM on May 4:

Oh my.

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’

You just can’t make this stuff up. If you did, you would be keelhauled as a racist.

Well Yoweri, it’s like this. We Whites have this incredible urge to explore, to know, to catalog, to understand, to achieve, to overcome, to fight and even risk death to lift ourselves to other worlds. This urge causes us to explore everything from the deep ocean to the deep jungle, the frigid cold of the North and South poles to the eternal cold of Space, from the tiny Atomic world of Advanced materials to the gargantuan structure of the Universe.

It’s a White thing.

10 — Whiteplight wrote at 7:24 PM on May 4:

“Uganda alone cannot go to the moon. We are too small. But East Africa united can. That is what East African integration is all about,” he said. “Then we can say to the Americans: ‘What are you doing here all alone?’”

Little does he know that we have cornered the world market for green cheese. We aren’t worried about the Chinese either because they don’t digest dairy products very well.

11 — Anonymous wrote at 7:30 PM on May 4:

As if trying to lift millions of suffering Africans out of grinding poverty is not a lofty enough goal!

Where do these crackpot ideas originate?

12 — Bryan wrote at 7:31 PM on May 4:

I suppose this is supposed to be accomplished by putting to work the plethora of non-existant African scientists.

13 — hts wrote at 8:05 PM on May 4:

I almost spit my margarita all over the screen when I read this. This is funny on too many levels. First, you got the black paranoia running rampant. Then you gotcher delusions of grandeur. Please spare me. As though ANY African nation could supply the planning, manpower and resources necessary for such an effort. Worthy of Saturday Night Live! LOL!
Hts

14 — GenX in Oz wrote at 8:30 PM on May 4:

When we as a people eventually make it to Mars, you can sure that African’s will be dragged up there too.
They get to go everywhere we go, by default.
Can you imagine how different the World would be now, if we just left Africa alone completely.

15 — WR the elder wrote at 8:40 PM on May 4:

I’m glad to hear that East Africans can now embark on a Moon project. Clearly they are now sufficiently advanced economically that the Western world need no longer shower them with food aid, subsidized medicine, and cheap development loans.

16 — Chuck_W wrote at 8:43 PM on May 4:

I wonder what this guy was on when he said this? In africa going to the moon is still considered by many to be white man’s juju! These countries can barely make a telephone system work across their country let alone handles the complexities of going to the moon. How stupid and out of touch!

17 — Robert T. wrote at 9:04 PM on May 4:

This is a very good idea. I really do think that Eastern African nations should get together and build themselves a space program, using all African-educated engineers and pilots, and then send a team of African astronauts to the moon. African communities around the world will witness this, and will pull themselves up out of the depredation and violence and self-pity and the Western world will not have to care for them or be prey to their crimes any more.

18 — john wrote at 9:09 PM on May 4:

what for? there are no white chicks on the moon waiting for them.

19 — MoMo wrote at 9:16 PM on May 4:

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni

With such an intelligent rationalization for space exploration, the only variable remaining is time. Time before rocket science in Uganda comes of age.

Can anyone here hazard a guess as to how long that may be?

MoMo

20 — Jaundiced I wrote at 9:34 PM on May 4:

Oh, I see! They can’t cooperate enough to create a modern highway system connecting their countries but they can go to the moon by cooperating. There is an old saying, “when pigs fly”! Actually, they should ask one of the flying pigs what the Americans & others are doing on the moon. That way they could hear it from the pigs mouth & not have to waste all that brain power on something so far beyond their comprehension.

Sounds like there is going to be a bumper Ganja crop in East Africa this year.

21 — Tim in Indiana wrote at 9:43 PM on May 4:

Isn’t this often the case with black thinking? They put “bling” over providing for their own family. In this case, the “bling” is going to the moon rather than feeding their own impoverished nation.

22 — King of Utah wrote at 9:44 PM on May 4:

There was a black space program it didn’t work out so well lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XPCzckUcYY funny stuff. There isn’t an african auto manufacturer or any advanced industry of consequence created by them I would pay good money to sit in on the “brainstorming” sessions I also would love to see how they get volunteers to ride an african rocket the average IQ over there hovers around 70 it will never happen. Maybe they could turn this into a “reality” show. I would watch it. Maybe they could get thoe black “geniuses” I already see in movies I mean it must be real I see it on the screen all of the time.

23 — ranger wrote at 9:55 PM on May 4:

“Africans must travel to the moon to investigate what developed nations have been doing in outer space, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said Saturday.”

LOL! Absolutely hilarious.

They don’t build planes, boats, ships……..anything……. but they want to go to the moon.

What are they going to do take a Greyhound bus?

24 — jewamongyou wrote at 10:29 PM on May 4:

But how would they survive? That’s a long way to ship humanitarian aid.

25 — Anonymous wrote at 10:30 PM on May 4:

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

Spoken like an African JFK.

26 — Jasper wrote at 10:32 PM on May 4:

Well actually Mr.Museveni, Africans did make plans to go to space before.
http://tanguydlv.free.fr/en/Zambia-going-to-Mars.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,876312-2,00.html
http://acrossdifficultcountry.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-see-zambia-of-future-as-space-age.html

27 — Anonymous wrote at 10:32 PM on May 4:

I remember when Africans, and African-Americans in the US, were all about saying America should stay out of space - to keep racism from polluting the heavens.

All I have to say is maybe the Ugandan has a point. Maybe there aren’t enough Africans traveling to the Moon.

28 — Michigan Patriot wrote at 11:03 PM on May 4:

May Obama use “stimulus ” monies to fund a mass migration of the Earth’s blacks via space flight, to full fill their ” mantra ” of going to the Moon; money well spent .

29 — Anonymous wrote at 11:05 PM on May 4:


Just another day in the surrealistic fantasyland that is African political life.

Their childlike simplicity would be funny if it didn’t cause so much suffering.

30 — Rick wrote at 12:07 AM on May 5:

I agree with President Museveni and would happily donate to a space program that would send Blacks to the moon, or preferably Pluto.

I can think of no more joyous an occasion than watching a fleet of Saturn V rockets leaving the Earth for outer space, crammed full of Black passengers never to return again.

31 — Peter K wrote at 12:08 AM on May 5:

Not driven by a thirst for knowledge or a sense of adventure, Africa must go to space for one reason and one reason alone: everybody else is doing it. And when that golden day arrives sometime in the distant future, those poignant words will be spoken by Africa’s first spaceman, “What are you people doing up here?”

This is why I love Africa. The laughs.

32 — SKIP wrote at 12:36 AM on May 5:

BTW, the Russians have not landed men on the moon.

Psssssst…the black africans don’t know that.

33 — SKIP wrote at 12:43 AM on May 5:

There is an old saying, “when pigs fly”! Actually, they should ask one of the flying pigs

WELL!!! Swine Flu…..and most black africans are muslims and they don’t talk to pigs:)

34 — Anonymous wrote at 1:01 AM on May 5:

Africans are now on the job people everyone can take a deep breath and give a sigh of relief. Hey theyve done everything from building the pyramids to inventing peanut butter. Theyre just late comers in the space race. Actually their such a truly brilliant people theyve just been too busy here on earth to take time out to explore the heavens. Too busy getting their president elected, protesting the justifiable incarceration of 6 black youths for trying to kill an innocent white boy and singing rap diddys.

35 — flyingtiger wrote at 1:02 AM on May 5:

I wonder what Floyd and Ernie and the metal munching moon mice would say when the Africans landed?

36 — Joe B wrote at 1:22 AM on May 5:

Typical. Whites are tasked to build the Moon bases and maintain the life support systems. Then the blacks want to move in and drink up all the Tranya.

37 — Yorkshireman wrote at 1:46 AM on May 5:

A multi-million dollar Nigerian satellite launched in May 2007 has been shut down to prevent it spinning out of control and damaging others in orbit.

Chinese-built NigComSat-1 cost the African oil producer $340m (£228m). The Nigerian government said insurance would pay for a replacement and Nigerians should still be proud of the country’s satellite programme. But telecoms experts told the BBC it was a “white elephant in space” and the whole operation was a “debacle”. NigComSat-1 was launched 18 months ago to much fanfare from the government, but it has been mired in controversy ever since. On Tuesday, controllers shut the satellite down because it was having problems with its power supply, the government announced.

The satellite was meant to provide communications for government agencies and broadband internet. “This has been a real debacle from day one,” a telecoms engineer told the BBC. The engineer, who works as a consultant for a multinational communications company, did not want to be named. The satellite was limited because the type of frequency it used was disturbed by clouds in the atmosphere, and did not work properly in Nigeria’s rainy season or during the Harmattan, when clouds of dust blow down from the Sahara, he said. The satellite also operated on frequencies already allocated to other companies and interfered with other providers’ equipment.

But Information Minister John Odey denied the satellite was not worth investing in. “No technology can be a waste of money,” he said. “It is a worthy investment, and Nigerians should see it as desirable. It has served a purpose and will continue to do so.” Local media initially reported that the satellite had “gone missing”. But on Wednesday Minister of State for Science and Technology Alhassan Zaku told journalists it had lost power and had to be “parked, like you would park a car”.”If it wasn’t parked and it lost all its power there would be no energy to even move it and it would be like a loose cannon and would keep rolling about and hit other satellites in the orbit,” he told reporters.

According to analysts, Nigeria has made nearly $2 trillion in oil revenues over the last 30 years, but its population are mostly poor. Africa’s most populous nation lacks basic infrastructure like power and water, and many Nigerians thought the satellite showed the government did not have its priorities right.The news that the satellite could not get enough power to run has led to jokes that, as one e-mail doing the rounds put it: Nigeria has “exported its electricity generation problems to space”.

38 — bob wrote at 1:47 AM on May 5:

Yakub has the power to make this happen. I nominate Tawana Brawley as First-Minority-Moonlander, Al Sharpton as project CFO, and Jesse Jackson as Chief Engineer.

39 — Schoolteacher wrote at 1:59 AM on May 5:

East Africa was once integrated politically, and they were all much better off than today. But then the British left.

40 — Gavrick wrote at 2:10 AM on May 5:

Wonderful idea! I think we should encourage this with lots of aid money. But I think Venus is a better idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

41 — Anonymous wrote at 2:30 AM on May 5:

Negotiations to establish a tariff free trade zone including Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Burundi and Rwanda have been ongoing for months.

O.K, so I’m ignorant.

What do these countries trade with each other?

42 — HH wrote at 2:44 AM on May 5:

This is the funniest article I can ever recall seeing on AR! Oh dear is this ludicrous!! Somewhere, in the great beyond, Werner Von Braun is laughing hysterically today.

43 — Anonymous wrote at 3:10 AM on May 5:

Actually, his aspirations are entirely rational. This is the logical outcome of telling everyone that we are all equal.

44 — nokangaroos wrote at 3:49 AM on May 5:

At first, I blew beer on my keyboard too. But once you think about it…
JFK´s motivation was the same - to show Nikita Sergejevich that he had the bigger pipi.(the need to prove it does not speak well of JFK´s and Yoweri´s - but I digress)
Let´s face it, the Apollo program was a colossal waste of money. All the moonwalkers (except Michael Jackson, who is an alien) were Air Force officers capable of little a robot probe could not have done at one per mil of the cost (except Harrison Schmitt, geologist; the only scientist ever to set foot on the moon). The Russians realized that - and acted accordingly.

As for the sneers about lack of technology, the US laughed Goddard off the stage. Honouring him posthumously cannot undo that. Without the Germans, there would have been no space program, whilst the Russians already had thinkers and engineers at work in the 20s.

- On third thought, it´s still hilarious. “What are you people doing up here?” hmpfff :)

45 — GenX in Oz wrote at 3:54 AM on May 5:

In my last post please substitute the word descent for decline, pardon.

46 — Anonymous wrote at 5:20 AM on May 5:

“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

That is funny! It is hard to believe this is not a spoof.

47 — Anonymous wrote at 6:54 AM on May 5:

I am convinced “diversity” is why NASA is incapable of completing any large projects anymore.

48 — Mike wrote at 7:16 AM on May 5:

You’d think they’d work on things like aids and feeding themselves first. Not that I’ve ever credited black africans for having an abundance of intelligence.

49 — Fed Up wrote at 7:54 AM on May 5:

Africans NEED a space program of their own… FUNDED OF COURSE, for them by the world’s White nations. Is the African mentality genetic? Or do they have to train themselves to appear as stupid as they come across?

Oh, so sorry! I forgot African explorers reached the moon some thousands of years before the Golden Age of Greece. Using advanced technology developed in secret… because they did not want to embarass the primitive White Europeans with their stupendous progress.

50 — sbuffalonative wrote at 8:56 AM on May 5:


“We must also go there and say: ‘What are you people doing up here?’”

This is actually typical reasoning of the black mind.

If you read the black press, listen to black talk radio, or complaints from black grievance groups, a common thread is a ‘what is the white man doing’ paranoia.

The black mind rationalizes it’s inability to compete for equal outcome with whites with elaborate conspiracy theories. That’s why they believe their only hope for advancement is to be around whites in white schools and white neighborhoods. But when that fails to raise their status, the explanation turns to the evil conspiracy of ‘institutional racism’ and ‘white privilege’. Basically, they can’t accept their own failure so it MUST be something whites are doing to them.

51 — Anonymous wrote at 9:26 AM on May 5:

HA HA HA!
They must be joking. RIGHT?

52 — Yorkshireman wrote at 9:52 AM on May 5:

Further to my earlier post regarding NigComSat-1 (yes, that’s really what it was named, by the Nigerian government) I later heard a story from a telecoms engineer in South Africa which I am unable to verify. Apparantly, the Nigerians approached the Chinese to provide the satellite for a knock-down price of $US380 million but the Chinese wanted their own too. So they took the money, launched their own very successful COM-SAT then told the Nigerians that theirs didn’t work properly so recommended ‘parking’ it to ensure the Nigerian government would not get sued if it collided with another satellite. Of course, the Nigerians can see it anytime they want. After all, there aren’t that many up there, are there? I suppose that one day, when a piece of space junk falls to earth in a spectacular shower of sparks, it will inevitably be identified as NigComSat-1 by these clever Chinese.

53 — SKIP wrote at 10:00 AM on May 5:

You’d think they’d work on things like aids and feeding themselves first.

WHY!!! we White nation taxpaying citizen slaves are taking care of that.

54 — SKIP wrote at 10:04 AM on May 5:

What do these countries trade with each other?

Shots, bombs, rockets, refugees, diseases, welfare money from the U.S. violence, rapes, assorted means of murder, gorillas, cheap cars, bad food and water, Christian do-gooders (snacks)Need I go on:)

55 — Wild Eyed Charlie wrote at 10:14 AM on May 5:

Africa needs a space program like a fish needs a bicycle. Most of the continent doesn’t even have clean water!

Did you get this story from The Onion?

56 — Checkers wrote at 1:47 PM on May 5:

The comments here have been quite funny.
But you know what? The US and other wealthy
countries will probably end up funding their programs
and these African nations would claim credit for
building a space program. I’m sure the bleeding hearts
in the US and other contributing countries would play along.

57 — Anonymous wrote at 2:14 PM on May 5:

Anonymous at 6:54 a.m. wrote: “I am convinced “diversity” is why NASA is incapable of completing any large projects anymore.”
_________
Absolutely, 100 percent true. This is also what killed GM and Chrysler, and probably Ford at some point.

58 — Black Emperor wrote at 3:01 PM on May 5:

I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.

59 — Rob wrote at 4:36 PM on May 5:

A funny quote from Jasper’s TIME link…a story from 1964

“Already Nkoloso is training twelve Zambian astronauts, including a curvaceous 16-year-old girl, by spinning them around a tree in an oil drum and teaching them to walk on their hands, “the only way humans can walk on the moon.” “

60 — SKIP wrote at 4:43 PM on May 5:

Absolutely, 100 percent true. This is also what killed GM and Chrysler, and probably Ford at some point.

And is now in the process of killing the U.S. as a first world nation.

61 — Kill Your TV wrote at 4:58 PM on May 5:

“Did you get this story from The Onion?”
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie

That is exactly what I thought.


“I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.”
Posted by Black Emperor

Ha ha ha ha ha. Good one. The funniest comment on the board.

62 — Anonymous wrote at 5:06 PM on May 5:

a common thread [with blacks] is ‘what is the white man doing’ paranoia. The black mind rationalizes it’s inability to compete … with elaborate conspiracy theories. That’s why they believe their only hope for advancement is to be around whites in white schools and white neighborhoods. But when that fails to raise their status, the explanation turns to the conspiracy of ‘institutional racism’ and ‘white privilege’. Basically, they can’t accept their own failure, so it MUST be something whites are doing to them.
Posted by sbuffalonative

Good analysis. But the conclusion from that is that there are only two possible outcomes for us: either total separation, or becoming dragged down into their morass.

As pointed out by others, the destruction of our once-great industrial base - and eventually of our entire economy - are the inevitable result of all this cultish commitment to diversity. But that is taboo to mention in the public forum, so we keep slipping downhill to Third World status.

63 — Fight the Racists wrote at 5:19 PM on May 5:

Landing a man on the moon is one of the greatest accomplishments of all time. Just one of the many great accomplishments of the white race. White history is being rewritten. Talk up the accomplishments of whites whenever possible. Whites created modern civilization and made the world better for everyone. They create wealth wherever they go. Whites invented the TV, radio, autos, planes, phones, the PC, traffic lights, the elevator and many others. The list is endless.

64 — q wrote at 5:35 PM on May 5:

“Africans must travel to the moon to investigate what developed nations have been doing in outer space, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said Saturday.”

Wasn’t it Louis Farrakhan who claims to have constructed a space ship he uses to fly around the moon?

Maybe he could loan them that until they can get one made out of roofing tin and tie-wire.

65 — Anonymous wrote at 5:49 PM on May 5:

“I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.”
Posted by Black Emperor

It’s funny now, but when the Chinese set up African puppet dictators with nukes and then agitators in the US, we will be in real trouble. Notice that the ANC wouldn’t let the Dalai Lama give a speech in One Part South Africa.

The blacks are harmless so long as they have no institutional support from a hostile foreign state. Once they get that, even if it’s bought, paid for, planned, and controlled by the Chinese, the game changes.

66 — John PM wrote at 6:00 PM on May 5:

“I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.

Posted by Black Emperor at 3:01 PM on May 5”

Interesting your “majesty,” but which do you think will come first?

I mean, you surely do realize that should any black tribe in Africa actually manage to achieve even the most basic of nuclear devices through their “science” or any other “procurement” procedures, what the most likely outcome will be, right? They will use it on the tribe(s) that they see as their historic rivals; normally, since the tribe or tribes in question are within about a 5 to 15 mile distance from them, they will either incinerate themselves in the initial detonation, or die from radiation poisoning a short time afterwards.

How do you see this as contributing to an “active space program by the end of the century?”

Just wondering Black Emperor,

John PM???

67 — Janelle wrote at 7:42 PM on May 5:

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni may talk the talk about sending Africans into outer space but my bet is that he’s far more concerned with obtaining nuclear weapons than in exploring the universe.

North Korea’s reputation as the “bad boy” of the world can’t have escaped even Museveni’s limited power of observation.

68 — SKIP wrote at 9:16 PM on May 5:

my bet is that he’s far more concerned with obtaining nuclear weapons than in exploring the universe.

My bet is that he is more interested in getting lots of money in a Swiss account for his retirement.

69 — GenX in Oz wrote at 10:25 PM on May 5:

“I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.
Posted by Black Emperor at 3:01 PM on May 5”

Just because the Chinese may bring such technologies to Africa, does not mean Blacks get to take credit for developing them.
Well no more than a street criminal who happens to possess a -Austrian built and designed, 17-round/9mm Glock pistol made of a lightweight, high-strength nylon-based polymer.
Sure possessing such a piece of advanced killing technology may make them feel like ‘the man’ or ‘a big man’.
But it doesn’t make you any more evolved, just more dangerous.
And gaining fear is different to gaining respect.

For humanities sake I would not wish Nuclear weapons to be in the hands of any African state (for the record I’m also not ‘over the moon’ about Pakistan having 100 of them either).

Or by the same way I know that if I gave a loaded revolver to either my one or three year old, it would mean the end of my family and house as I know it.

70 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 10:50 PM on May 5:

An active space program? Africa? That’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever read here. There isn’t the scientific or engineering background to support an aerospace industry. Then there’s the lack of the manufacturing facilities. Do you imagine they’re going to make a spacecraft out of sticks and leaves?

71 — Mr Pibb wrote at 11:04 PM on May 5:

“They will use it (the bomb) on the tribe(s) that they see as their historic rivals; normally, since the tribe or tribes in question are within about a 5 to 15 mile distance from them, they will either incinerate themselves in the initial detonation, or die from radiation poisoning a short time afterwards. How do you see this as contributing to an “active space program by the end of the century?”“

Sometimes the rival tribe lives hundreds of miles away. That’s how their bomb program and space program will relate to one another.

72 — Black Emperor wrote at 11:16 PM on May 5:

>“I predict Africa will not only have city-buster nuclear >weapons but an active space program by the end of the century.”
>Posted by Black Emperor
>
>It’s funny now, but when the Chinese set up African puppet >dictators with nukes and then agitators in the US, we will be >in real trouble. Notice that the ANC wouldn’t let the Dalai >Lama give a speech in One Part South Africa.

The nukes will not come from China; they’ll be designed and built locally. The science and the construction is well understood. Really only holding back most nations is a lack of interest, compliance with treaties, and in some cases, embargos on critical parts.

>
>The blacks are harmless so long as they have no institutional >support from a hostile foreign state. Once they get that, even >if it’s bought, paid for, planned, and controlled by the >Chinese, the game changes.

This is precisely why it will be so easy for Africans to develop a nuclear weapons program; no one would expect it. They’ll be looking at the Chinese, the Russian, Space Aliens, or tracing some other fantastical outside influence or scheme.

>Posted by Anonymous at 5:49 PM on May 5

73 — Anonymous wrote at 9:05 AM on May 6:

We Africans,will be ahead of every other race in a near future!We are the most advanced beeings of all creation,our women are the must beautiful and desired in the entire universe!We got the highest IQ`s off all mankind!Dont forget that Beethoven,Pushkin,Shakespeare,Aristoteles,Newton,Plato,Socrates,Julius Caesar,Ghengis Khan,Sun Tzu,Netzahualcoyotl,Oda Nobunaga,Mahatma Gandhi,Chief Crazy Horse,Tokugawa Ieyasu,Geronimo,Sitting Bull,Pontiac,Tecumseh,Werner von Braun,Mozart,Pachacuti Inca,Leonardo da Vinci,Sir Richard Burton,MICHAEL JACKSON and even Cleopatra(she was an african-american transvestite)were all BLACK MAN!!!

74 — Tom Iron wrote at 9:11 AM on May 6:

Black Emperor,

Sir - You’re good. You’ve got a career ahead of you in the area of comedy. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. you could go standup, or get your own show. I’m sure you could do some comedy writing as well from what I see here. Go for it.

Tom Iron…

75 — John PM wrote at 10:52 AM on May 6:

“Sometimes the rival tribe lives hundreds of miles away. That’s how their bomb program and space program will relate to one another.

Posted by Mr Pibb at 11:04 PM on May 5”

Not really sure what you are driving at here Mr. Pibb?

Do you think that distances such as those, will be the main aid in both nuclear and space research in Africa? If so, please explain you theory in more detail.

Just wondering here,

John PM???

*KRONOS*

76 — John PM wrote at 11:33 AM on May 6:

“Sometimes the rival tribe lives hundreds of miles away. That’s how their bomb program and space program will relate to one another.

Posted by Mr Pibb at 11:04 PM on May 5”

Not really sure what you are driving at here Mr. Pibb?

Do you think that distances such as those, will be the main aid in both nuclear and space research in Africa? If so, please explain you theory in more detail.

Just wondering here,

John PM???

77 — Anonymous wrote at 8:33 PM on May 6:

“Let´s face it, the Apollo program was a colossal waste of money. All the moonwalkers (except Michael Jackson, who is an alien) were Air Force officers capable of little a robot probe could not have done at one per mil of the cost (except Harrison Schmitt, geologist; the only scientist ever to set foot on the moon). The Russians realized that - and acted accordingly. Without the Germans, there would have been no space program, whilst the Russians already had thinkers and engineers at work in the 20s.”


It’s not that this wasn’t realized by the USA but even though robots could be used, it was desired for a person to actually walk on the moon. The Russians did have engineers and thinkers in the 20’s but so did the USA and other countries. While von Braun certainly did make a big contribution to the space program at the time, saying that there wouldn’t have been a space program in the USA without the Germans is totally false. Most of America’s space program in the past and just about all of it today is created and run by Americans.

78 — Mr Pibb wrote at 11:27 PM on May 6:

“Do you think that distances such as those, will be the main aid in both nuclear and space research in Africa? If so, please explain you theory in more detail.”

I’m saying nuclear weapons wont necessarily end the space race for africans. Nuclear weapons will demand long range rockets to deliver them. Thus leading to African space capability. But hey, come-on, maybe I was making a joke?

79 — SKIP wrote at 12:13 AM on May 7:

“They will use it (the bomb) on the tribe(s) that they see as their historic rivals; normally, since the tribe or tribes in question are within about a 5 to 15 mile distance from them, they will either incinerate themselves in the initial detonation, or die from radiation poisoning a short time afterwards

Call me names if you must, but I personally see no down side to this scenario! CIA couldn’t come up with a better one. Lets give all the African tribes a low yield nuke and see what happens.

80 — OCCAM wrote at 4:29 AM on May 7:

It’s difficult to understand what the fuss all about. Launching a big rocket into space is not a conceptually difficult thing at all. In theory it’s just a matter of a proper application of the laws of classical mechanics.

To convince the naysayers that Africans are capable of such, one only has to note—the evidence is right there—that there are at least 500 African engineers, chemists and physicists[all with doctorates] teaching in U.S. universities. If they were teaching and researching adequately there would be no obligation to retain them. [I must too that there are universities in Africa that have doctoral programs in engineering, mathematics and physics.]

These 500 scientists would be more than enough to manage a space exploration program in Africa.

81 — nokangaroos wrote at 1:14 PM on May 7:

“If they were teaching and researching adequately there would be no obligation to retain them”
I think you forgot a “not” after “were”, otherwise it makes no sense.
And I´m afraid most of these 500 are in the soft noggin sciences (“African studies”). Short of finding one in the ruins of Zimbabwe (not improbable if they are to be believed), good luck with rockets.
Besides, you´d need a few thousand for the project alone, not counting the necessary industrial and engineering infrastructure - easily meaning tens, if not hundreds of thousands of a literate workforce and a few decades.

82 — Anonymous wrote at 3:57 PM on May 7:

“To convince the naysayers that Africans are capable of such, one only has to note—the evidence is right there[right where?]—that there are at least 500 African engineers, chemists and physicists[all with doctorates] teaching in U.S. universities.”

This phenomenon is called “affirmative action.” Only a fool would believe that these “scientists” (provided they exist, which is doubtful) are capable of sending a rocket to the moon. Occupying a classroom and launching rockets are not the same thing.

83 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 4:38 PM on May 7:

The Apollo program was not really a waste of money. One of the things that it accomplished was massive improvements in manufacturing quality-control. In the pre-Apollo days, nobody would think of buying a used car with 50,000 miles on the odometer. Today, nobody thinks twice about it.

The electrocardiogram also had to be developed for the space program. How many lives have those saved since then?

The real shame was that we didn’t follow through with permanent installations.

Even when viewed as a competition with the Russians, it was a far more productive use of money than building additional tanks and armored personnel carriers. What technological payoffs do you get by simply producing more of those?

84 — Question Diversity wrote at 4:59 PM on May 7:

I agree with Michael C. Scott. Necessity is the mother of invention. IMHO, Al Qaeda needs to get a space program and an Olympic team. That way, American interest in Space and the Olympics will suddenly rejuvenate.

85 — Conan wrote at 6:20 PM on May 7:

“These 500 scientists would be more than enough to manage a space exploration program in Africa.

Posted by OCCAM at 4:29 AM on May 7”

Africans should worry about putting together a safe and competent airline first before moving on to space travel.

86 — nokangaroos wrote at 6:21 PM on May 7:

50,000 miles? The old VW beetle with indium bearings easily topped that.
And the electrocardiogram was invented by some unknown little physician in the Netherlands - long before Apollo.
Of course there were technology spin-offs, but they didn´t justify the cost (Marxist economists at the time even theorized the Americans had gotten tired of war as a means of destroying surplus accumulated capital - as in their view is necessary to avoid crises - and found a more efficient way. If they were right, Africa has even less of a chance - the last thing they have is surplus capital).

OK, I´ll concede that our satellite-dependent hypercivilisation now reaps the fruits of the research done then. However, this is the point: Satellites, not puerile games.

87 — SKIP wrote at 9:32 PM on May 7:

Are they there yet?? it’s been 5 days already.

88 — SKIP wrote at 9:34 PM on May 7:

Africans should worry about putting together a safe and competent airline first before moving on to space travel.

Perhaps even a safe and competent government! hahahahhahaa I crack myself up sometimes:)

89 — ice wrote at 10:28 PM on May 7:

“It’s difficult to understand what the fuss all about. Launching a big rocket into space is not a conceptually difficult thing at all. In theory it’s just a matter of a proper application of the laws of classical mechanics.”

That’s really humorous. Such shallow thinking. Trying to make Aeronautical engineering related to space vehicles in such simplistic terms is truly the same as one would expect from a child.

“To convince the naysayers that Africans are capable of such, one only has to note—the evidence is right there—that there are at least 500 African engineers, chemists and physicists[all with doctorates] teaching in U.S. universities.”

I don’t think there is even one such professor as you claim, let alone 500. At my university we didn’t have one single black in physics classes, and likewise I knew of not one single black taking an engineering course. Even algebra was blaringly devoid of blacks. Some would start out the semester and be gone in two weeks. Even knowing that they would be “awarded” favorable grades as AA attendees didn’t help them any.

“These 500 scientists would be more than enough to manage a space exploration program in Africa.”
Posted by OCCAM at 4:29 AM on May 7

The 500 scientists you write of don’t exist and you know it. And with the average black I.Q. in Africa at about 70 do you think you are going to convince anybody here that they have qualified people?

Africa is STILL in or very near the stone age as the cities the white man built for them are turning to ruin, because they don’t have the ability to maintain them.

There is no nation in history that has failed to produce at least some kind of creative civilization except for Africa, and the Aborigines in Australia.

Claiming otherwise is just deluding yourself. One just can’t argue with failure.

90 — formerly (James from NOLA) wrote at 1:25 AM on May 8:

“…it had lost power and had to be “parked, like you would park a car”.”

Sooo… basicly, in true ghetto style, it’s up on blocks?

Bwahhahahahahahhaah!

91 — feller wrote at 4:59 PM on May 10:

well, there’s a solution for the rampage of AIDS in Africa.

92 — Michael C. Scott wrote at 6:30 PM on May 10:

Are these “500” African “scientists” currently teaching at US universities the same ones who left Africa because the place has been utterly ruined by its current owners?

I have 79 US and foreign patents awarded, and I work as a welder out of my garage. The stay-at-home dad thing is a bonus.

I’ll have my own space program before any African nation does.

93 — Anonymous wrote at 6:31 PM on May 10:

HA HA!”What are you people doing up here?”Hope the response is “what do you mean, you people?”and they all get guilted into supporting lazy moon people,who rob them and tell them they are racist.


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