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Octuplets Mom Wants $2 Million to Tell Her Story

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KTLA-TV (Los Angeles), February 2, 2009

The mother of the octuplets born a week ago is apparently hoping to cash in by selling her story.

On Friday, 33-year-old Nadya Suleman retained the Killeen Futney Group public relations firm to handle the offers for book deals, TV shows and other opportunities that the firm claims are pouring in.

Now, the British Newspaper ‘The Telegraph’ said Suleman wants to get $2 million from whoever interviews her first.

The newspaper also said she wants to get help from a corporate sponsor, such as a diaper company.

Suleman also wants to launch a new career as a television child care expert, The Telegraph reported.

The mother of 14 graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child and adolescent development, school officials said.

She returned to pursue a master’s in counseling, but last attended in the spring of 2008.

Kileen said Suleman is “the most sought after mom in the world right now,” but that she hasn’t decided what she’ll do next, other than care for her children.

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Their mother could be allowed to return home in a few days.

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She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family.

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“It’s going to be difficult,” she [Angela Suleman] said, adding that her daughter’s father is going back to his native Iraq, where neighbors said he works as a contractor, to help support the family.

He told reporters that he is a former Iraqi military man.

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(Posted on February 2, 2009)


Octuplets’ Mom Was Hoping for ‘Just One More Girl,’ Grandmother Says

Jessica Garrison and Kimi Yoshino, Los Angeles Times, January 31, 2009

Nadya Suleman’s goal in life was to be a mother, her friends and family said. That is why, even with a brood of six, including 2-year-old twins, she decided to have more embryos transferred in hopes, her mother said Friday, of getting “just one more girl.”

“And look what happened. Octuplets. Dear God,” Angela Suleman said four days after her 33-year-old daughter became the second person in the U.S. ever to give birth to eight babies at once.

Suleman stressed that her daughter “is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself.”

Angela Suleman said all the children are from the same sperm donor, but she did not identify him. Her daughter is divorced, but Suleman said the ex-husband was not the father.

Suleman said she is caring for her six grandchildren while their mother is in the hospital recovering. {snip}

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Friends and family also reported that Nadya Suleman worked as a psychiatric technician until she was injured on the job. Then she began having children and enrolled in school.

She graduated from Cal State Fullerton in 2006 with a bachelor of science degree in child and adolescent development, school officials said. She returned to pursue a master’s in counseling, but last attended in the spring of 2008.

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She and her children live with her mother in a 1,550-square-foot home in Whittier, and her father has been working in Iraq as a translator to help support the family.

In 2008, Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy, claiming nearly $1 million in liabilities mostly due to a bad housing investment, her bankruptcy attorney said. Suleman said Friday that she had withdrawn the filing and paid her debts.

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1 — Anonymous wrote at 5:54 PM on February 2:

SO THEY ARE ARABS, great thanks George W. Bush

2 — Bobby wrote at 6:10 PM on February 2:

…wants 20million to tell her story.

I knew it. I knew that was what this would lead to. Everything in the U.S. is about smoke and mirrors. Everything is about focusing on the abnormal for fun and profit. There may be one consolation in all of this if she gets the 20million, it will come from stupid Nationa Enquirer readers and other airheads who spend their time reading gossip.

3 — Peejay in Frisco wrote at 6:51 PM on February 2:

If she had six children already, then there was no justification to put even one egg into this busy breeding broodmare.The tax payers, i.e Whitey, will pay millions of dollars to bring up these children.

4 — Anonymous wrote at 7:11 PM on February 2:

Someone should carefully check the outgoing news on the Council of Conservative Citizens website each day before it is published. Almost daily, I find numerous mistakes involving spelling, grammar, and diction.

Terms such as “there”, “their” and “they’re” are often interchanged. Today, “Chief” is spelled as “Cheif”. I read the page daily and find the mistakes to be routine. It is quite embarrassing for our cause, and it could fuel the “dumb hick redneck” fodder from our enemies and detractors.

I thought you should know.

Thank you.

5 — Anonymous wrote at 8:24 PM on February 2:

Of course she will be applying for benifits. I would make them contingent on her being fitted with a contraceptive device. If she continues to have children, place them in an orphanage.

6 — tomcat wrote at 8:27 PM on February 2:

This whole thing is a disgrace!!! She should be ashamed of herself and the doctors who may have helped in this mess should be thrown out of the medical profession…shame on all of them. She had these children in order for US to pay for them, and for profit….I say if she is on welfare she should be taken off immediatly…I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THESE BRATS!!! Do any of you????

7 — Nebraska race realist wrote at 8:46 PM on February 2:

Well, needless to say, the articles don’t tell you what race she is. So I decided to look up the city of Whittier on the Census Bureau web site. Here’s what I found: 56.6% White, 0.8% black, 64.2% Hispanic. Considering the family name doesn’t sound Hispanic, I’d say they’re probably White (maybe somebody in California can confirm this). If so, this isn’t a bad thing, even if the mother is obsessed. Our birth rate is too low in comparison.

8 — Ginny wrote at 8:57 PM on February 2:

Why is this everybody’s business? I don’t know this woman, and she is a rare one if she can handle 14 children. That much is true. Yet Child Protective Services has no apparent problem with her. She couldn’t qualify for donar sperm if she were raising these children with no means of support; right? Eight at once is extreme, but she could have ended up with 14 children with some idiot or idiots with high sex drives and low intelligence and no sense of responibility if she had conceived them in the traditional way.

Quite frankly I am in favor of regulating who can reproduce, even if it means that I can’t have the children that I would like to have. While I understand how eugenics got a bad reputation, I am in favor of laboratory conceptions because the state has an interest in stopping genetic conditions. People cannot be counted upon to stop themselves while their hormones are jumping. I don’t have a problem with sterilizations before puberty and reversing them for people prepared to be responsible parents. I just don’t, even though I realize that I might be found to be on the wrong side of that line, which I would not like.

9 — Anonymous wrote at 9:03 PM on February 2:

This really bothers me. It sounds like she is out to make money.
How can she support all of these children with no father????

10 — Wayne Engle wrote at 9:19 PM on February 2:

A friend of mine who is a retired physician and who has delivered more than 5,000 babies told me that for a doctor to implant a woman with that many eggs is the height of irresponsibility and is unethical. He suggested that the doctor or doctors responsible may face disciplinary action by the California Medical Association.

But take a look at the photo of the three doctors who apparently were responsible: an Indian and two American blacks, one female, one male. Can you say, “racial discrimination” if the CMA tries to sanction these three disgraces to the medical profession? Plus, the fact that the woman is apparently a Palestinian Arab will also give the bleeding hearts plenty of ammunition, too.

11 — Robert wrote at 10:32 PM on February 2:

I think the idiot fertility doctor that gave a woman who already had six kids fertility drugs should be required to pay child support for these eight.

12 — Freyr wrote at 10:59 PM on February 2:

These new children are costing hundreds of thousands of
dollars a day. And they may need special care for years-or for-
ever. No one has that kind of insurance. To care for them will
take not a small fortune, but a large one. Why do I get the feel-
ing that we are going to be paying for her sick, selfish obses-
sion? And if she gets away with it, others will do the same.
Frankenstein was a benign monster compared to this women and her
brood.

13 — Bobby wrote at 11:07 PM on February 2:

This story is illustrates the insanity going on in California and the utter abuse of its taxpayers who have already paid for the services required by this women. In a different but essentially related story involving the abuse fo taxpayers, an illegal alien female student is going to UCLA at taxpayers expense. The abuse of California’s legal citizenry is constant, non-stop and extreme. How many American citizen and legal students have been turned away from UCLA in the past that were easily as qualified as this foreign illegal national? A seat has been taken from a qualified citizen by an illegal foreign national. It’s too much and it will get worse.

14 — Marcus63 wrote at 1:07 AM on February 3:

As usual, Sally Suburban has one child (or none at all); and Rhonda Race-Mixer has an entire litter. Whites need to start thinking in terms or community (just like everyone else), not of being an individual—and we need to do it now.

15 — Anonymous wrote at 2:57 AM on February 3:

Another excerpt from the article:

“I cannot see circumstances where any reasonable physician would transfer [so many] embryos into a woman under the age of 35 under any circumstance,” said Arthur Wisot, a fertility doctor in Redondo Beach and the author of “Conceptions and Misconceptions.”

Interesting article. It’s worth reading the whole thing.

16 — jp wrote at 7:21 AM on February 3:

she will get the $2 million, from taxpayers, only not in a lump sum. as for her story, we’ve already heard it.

17 — SKIP wrote at 7:50 AM on February 3:

Well, needless to say, the articles don’t tell you what race she is.

With a name like Suleman, I knew she was either Iraqi or Turk. She is also probably a muslim to boot.

18 — Anonymous wrote at 8:39 AM on February 3:

There are some mis-conceptions going on here. Please read the article fully before commenting. If not, just as the previous commentor stated: “it could fuel the “dumb hick redneck” fodder from our enemies and detractors”. This woman is not married, she is divorced. The man she is divorced from has a hispanic sounding surname, but NONE of the children are his. She used a sperm donor, and a VERY un-ethical doctor. She may very well have traveled into Mexico to have the procedures done. That is speculation. The mother’s father is Iraqi, and claims to be a former Iraqi military man. He now works as a contractor in Iraq to help support the family. There has been no comment on the nationality of the mother’s mother, but she claims her daughter is crazy. She also says she will not stay in the home and help her once she comes home from the hospital. The mother’s parents are divorced, but live in the same home. The mother of these 14 children is college educated, but un-employed.

19 — Sardonicus wrote at 9:08 AM on February 3:

I don’t mind people having as many children as they can afford. What I do mind is taxpayers having to support irresponsible parents. I think welfare should be conditional on sterilization after two children.

20 — BonBon wrote at 9:11 AM on February 3:

“…But take a look at the photo of the three doctors who apparently were responsible: an Indian and two American blacks, one female, one male…”

Wayne:

Notwithstanding the AA argument (although valid) the doctors in question had nothing to do with the idiocy of implanting multiple fetesus in a woman who already had six children, no husband, and no job.

This is all over talk radio here in California (the only source of legitimate news besides the Internet).

This woman was referred from another clinic to Kaiser—I believe she showed up on their doorstep when she was 23 weeks pregnant. Of course, Kaiser could not turn her away due to federal laws that require they treat her. The Kaiser doctors stated that they wanted her to selectively abort but she refused.

She spent the next seven weeks at Kaiser (imagine the cost) until she delivered. There were 42 doctors in the delivery room.
The babies, obviously, were born very small, some weighing in the one-pound range.

I read that it’s going to cost Kaiser in the area of four million dollars to provide NICU care for the eight super-preemie babies. Do you think this single woman has enough insurance to cover all the expenses?

Kaiser has already announced that they expect a rate increase of around 14% next year.

As a member of Kaiser, this burns me up to no end as I am certain my insurance premiums will go up—all for something with which I profoundly disagree (14 children with no father, no job).

Callers to John & Ken’s radio show have stated that the six other children were also born through IVF and at least two or three of them have disabilities. The new children will likely be disabled as well, further burdening the schools with monstrous, life-long costs to educate and take care of them.

This is an outrage and I hope the doctor(s) who stupidly implanted this woman have their medical licenses revoked and are made to pay the medical bills incurred by these children.

Bon

21 — Gayle Sollenberger wrote at 9:48 AM on February 3:

I am all for people having as many children as they want - provided that I DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.

This is a horrible situation. You’ve got 14 children living in a 3 bedroom house. The State is always interferring in citizens business - I think the State should step in and tell this woman that there is no way she is going to be able to feed and care for 14 children and that the octuplets will be put up for adoption. I’ll bet there are ALOT of really nice couples out there who would rush for the chance to adopt these poor little babies.

22 — Gayle Sollenberger wrote at 9:50 AM on February 3:

So - she’s an Arab. Well that explains the media in all this.

23 — Mr. Math. wrote at 10:10 AM on February 3:

REPLY TO:

Well, needless to say, the articles don’t tell you what race she is. So I decided to look up the city of Whittier on the Census Bureau web site. Here’s what I found: 56.6% White, 0.8% black, 64.2% Hispanic. Considering the family name doesn’t sound Hispanic, I’d say they’re probably White?

Posted by Nebraska race realist at 8:46 PM on February 2

THAT IS QUITE A TOWN WITH 56.6 White .8 black 64.2 Hispanic LETS SEE ADD THOSE UP AND IT IS A TOWN WITH A POPULATION OF 121.6%. YEP THAT’S SURE QUITE A TOWN.

24 — T RExx wrote at 10:13 AM on February 3:

I think The doctors who implanted all those eggs as willing participants in this outrage should be taken to court and made liable for the care, feeding, and education of these children.

25 — Anonymous wrote at 10:35 AM on February 3:

Pretty soon, there won’t be enough white folks to support all that Third-world spawn. Then what will the liberals do to maintain their moral supremecy?

26 — Veritas wrote at 11:02 AM on February 3:

There should be laws preventing such things. Doctors should not be allowed to inseminate a woman via IVF with more than two children.
But there’s more to it. No woman could properly care for 8 children at once, I don’t care who she is or how what kind of resources she has. It would be nearly impossible to provide the type of affection, love and care that newborns need at birth and during the first few years. The fact that she already has 6 children tells me that this woman has mental problems.
This woman is like some animal who just shot out a litter—only she doesn’t have enough nipples for them to suck on.

27 — ciccio wrote at 11:52 AM on February 3:

I am all for offering her the $2 million for her side of the story as long as that money is not paid to her but the hospital bill first. Next on the list is a refund of all the taxpayer money she and her family have scrounged in the past. There will not be a penny left after that, if there is use it for return tickets to
Iraq.

28 — SKIP wrote at 1:00 PM on February 3:

The abuse of California’s legal citizenry is constant, non-stop and extreme.

And will continue to it’s grand finale which will be a mini-preview of what’s to come for the country as a whole.

29 — Whiteplight wrote at 3:40 PM on February 3:

“I am all for people having as many children as they want - provided that I DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM.”


Posted by Gayle Sollenberger at 9:48 AM on February 3

> But we all pay for nearly everyone’s children through property taxes for public schools.

30 — Anonymous wrote at 4:38 PM on February 3:

Dr. Math: The Hispanic category probably includes “Hispanics of all races”, thus the inflated number.
Of course, that would mean that many of the “whites” aren’t white at all.

31 — Anonymous wrote at 6:11 PM on February 3:

Steve Sailer wrote a great column on this in his blog. As he notes it puts the capstone on the Bush years.

32 — sandstorm wrote at 7:18 PM on February 3:

The abuse of California’s legal citizenry is constant, non-stop and extreme.

And will continue to it’s grand finale which will be a mini-preview of what’s to come for the country as a whole.

Posted by SKIP at 1:00 PM on February 3

Californians should’nt think of themselves as being picked on. The whole of the U.S.A. is going to look like this SOON. Don’t feel that your alone. Keep your heads up! You weren’t protected from invasion as stated in the Constitution. Lousy politicians and the lousy L.A. Times.

33 — Reg wrote at 12:50 AM on February 4:

I am all for offering her the $2 million for her side of the story as long as that money is not paid to her but the hospital bill first. Next on the list is a refund of all the taxpayer money… >Ciccio

She’d still be in the hole. They’ve already calculated that the cost of this is over $3m. And that’s just the “health”; it doesn’t include the “welfare”.

34 — Bruno wrote at 9:32 AM on February 4:

What we would do. IF we had any brains is, Give her 15 one way tickets back to the land of camels and let her people pay to raise them?

35 — Anonymous wrote at 7:12 PM on February 4:

Turns out that all her children were the product of IVF treatments.

I’d like to know who funded this women getting IVF 6 times and then again for this set of 8 babies?! Average IVF treatment costs $10K per month not including fertility drugs. Something rotten is involved in this scheme and demands investigation.

Of course many IVF mothers are well into their 40’s. She was 26 when she got pregnant with her first. She’s now 33 so it would have easier. Still, who paid the cost.

Also, how did she belong to Kaiser? Kaiser is an HMO avaliable only to those enrolled by employers. I wonder if Kaiser’s rates will go up for everyone to pay for the mass production cesearian and the costs of caring for these 1 pound babies for at least a month before they go home.

36 — Anonymous wrote at 7:15 PM on February 4:

The Suleman octuplets’ medical costs have not been disclosed, but the average cost for just one cesarean birth in 2006 was $22,762 in California. The Suleman babies were born nine weeks premature. In California, a single premature birth in 2006 led to an average hospital stay of 25 days and cost $164,273.

That would amount to a $1.3 million bill for eight.

37 — margaret wrote at 7:22 PM on February 4:

“But take a look at the photo of the three doctors who apparently were responsible: an Indian and two American blacks, one female, one male. Can you say, “racial discrimination” if the CMA tries to sanction these three disgraces to the medical profession? Plus, the fact that the woman is apparently a Palestinian Arab will also give the bleeding hearts plenty of ammunition, too.” Posted by Wayne Engle

Those Doctors were not the Doctor or Doctors who implanted the embryos in her. They were the Doctors who were faced with monitoring the pregnancy and delivering the babies when she managed to get herself into the Kaiser HMO in the second month.

It took 42 people to deliver the babies. Glad I wasn’t having a baby at Kaiser that day.

38 — margaret wrote at 7:27 PM on February 4:

Bon, thanks for clarifying exactly how this woman got herself into Kaiser. I have been wondering myself. Normally the only way to get into Kaiser is through employer insurance. You’re absolutely right, everybody who belongs to Kaiser will have to pay for those babies’ extraordinary measures health care.

The neighbors have said that they didn’t know how many people live in the house.

39 — Anonymous wrote at 7:33 PM on February 4:

The Grandmother looks like a Northern European anglo saxon type American. She speaks native American english. The grandfather speaks very educated excellent english with a slight accent.

He has said many times that he will provide for the children. He didn’t say how. He has not only provided his daughter and her 6 kids with a house, he has paid for a nanny.

The poster who conjectured that the Mother traveled to Mexico for the IVF treatments may very well be right.

40 — Anonymous wrote at 12:44 AM on February 5:

All this talk about millions of dollars!
It used to be that having a baby was the most natural thing in the world. In my parent’s time, people had their children at home. No expense, no fuss. And they had large families too.
Maybe that’s what’s ailing us today?

41 — Harvey wrote at 5:53 AM on February 5:

I wonder what the morning line is in Las Vegas on this Mom’s chances of having another eight kids before she reaches age 45?

42 — Anonymous wrote at 10:13 AM on February 5:

She’s also filed two worker’s compensation claims. So she can’t work because she’s injured…and, let’s say she only wanted one or two more children to add to the six she already had, (instead of the 14 she now has) then how was she supposed to be injured, twice, and taking care of 7 or 8 children?

43 — Anonymous wrote at 3:12 PM on February 6:

An article I read today said she has suffered from years of depression, and she hoped that more children would cure her of this illness! She has not been able to work for years (allegedly) and has been collecting disability payments.

If she thought more children would cure her problems, then this woman is plainly mentally ill. Now she has 14 children to raise! Children requiring intensive care. And with no husband either!!! Is that going to make her happy and healthy forever after … or drive her to distraction?

This unstable woman is plainly in need of mental help and should not be ALLOWED to raise children or bring more of them into the world.

Incidentally, I have read advice in the past that couples going through marital problems should not try to have another child [which is often the case] as a way of resolving their problems and patching up their marriage. It doesn’t work! And the child only suffers. Ideally, a child should be brounght into a happy, stable marriage by well admusted parents. In this case, the woman is neither happy nor stable … and furthermore, she is not even married!

44 — an American Patriot wrote at 3:29 PM on February 6:

California passed proposition 187 years ago to protect itself against the costs incurred by illegal aliens, but the Supreme Court overturned it, even though California, a sovereign state, and the citizens of thereof, had every right to regulate how taxpayer monies were spent. Our Constitution is clear - every citizen of the several states shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of the citizens of the several states - illegal aliens and foreign nationals are not entitled to any of those rights and privileges. IF, the State of California discriminated against the citizens of the other states, then and only then, does the federal courts have a right to step in.

The 11th amendment CLEARLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY states “The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State” - California IS “one of the united states” and a foreign state is a STATE that has been granted statehood but not admitted into the union. If a citizen of a state that has all the rights and privileges of the citizens of the several states cannot sue a state, then why are illegal aliens and foreigners - legal or illegal - entitled to those rights and privileges?

45 — jeannie wrote at 2:22 AM on February 7:

This woman is a professional scam artist. She’s popping out 14 children and doing IVF cycles during the ten years that she says that she’s completely disabled and can’t work.

It’s people like this who mess up the system so that the truly disabled have a hard time getting benefits when they really need it.

46 — Anonymous wrote at 3:42 AM on February 7:

The Grandmother looks like a Northern European anglo saxon type American. She speaks native American english. The grandfather speaks very educated excellent english with a slight accent.
Posted by Anonymous at 7:33 PM

Nonsense!
There was a picture of her in today’s news. She doesn’t even look white.
Anglo-saxon? Please! Are you kidding me?


47 — Ellen Trumpler wrote at 1:15 AM on February 9:

First off, it’s more than a miracle if all eight babies continue to develop in a normal manner as they are doing. Praise God for this! Never before in American history has this happened before.

Thanks to the careful monitoring and nurturing by Kaiser’s neonatal unit. …if all of them make it to the one year point, there would be many couples who would consider it a BLESSING to adopt a happy healthy infant =if raising all of them proves to be beyond the resources of this young woman.

Just think how many deserving couples who can’t have children would jump for the chance to raise a baby such as this!! And what a gift it would be.

48 — Ellen Trumpler wrote at 1:16 AM on February 9:

First off, it’s more than a miracle if all eight babies continue to develop in a normal manner as they are doing. Praise God for this! Never before in American history has this happened before.

Thanks to the careful monitoring and nurturing by Kaiser’s neonatal unit. …if all of them make it to the one year point, there would be many couples who would consider it a BLESSING to adopt a happy healthy infant =if raising all of them proves to be beyond the resources of this young woman.

Just think how many deserving couples who can’t have children would jump for the chance to raise a baby such as this!! And what a gift it would be.

49 — Anonymous wrote at 2:20 AM on February 11:

I have dubbed this sick bimbo “The Clown Car Formerly Known As Nadya Suleman.”

She actually has a website where you can donate and/or leave a comment, if you so choose:

http://thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

I’m sure that many of us won’t be making complimentary comments!

50 — browser wrote at 4:07 AM on February 11:

Ellen Trumpler’s gushy post above is a perfect example of the triumph of maudlin sentmentality over logic.

That sort of mushy “thinking” is one of the prime reasons that this country, particularly California, is in such a mess.

51 — justagirl wrote at 4:50 PM on February 12:

I think you all are forgetting one other hideous thing about this woman …..she has had a GREAT amount of plastic surgery….apparently in the hopes of making herself look like angelina jolie….

check out the before and afters, and please someone tell me where she got the money for all these plastic surgeries with 14 kids to be fed and clothed…disgusting.

http://www.theinsider.com/photos/1658098_Nadya_Suleman_Before_and_After_Plastic_Surgery

52 — Joanne wrote at 6:56 PM on February 15:

Typical third world parasite draining the first world of resources


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