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Holder Seen as a Chance To Right Racial Wrongs

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Carrie Johnson and Krissah Thompson, Washington Post, February 5, 2009

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This week, Eric H. Holder Jr.’s swearing-in as the nation’s first black attorney general and its top law enforcement official came weighted with heavy expectation that the system could change.

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Civil rights advocates are already outlining a long list of priorities, including changing laws that lead to disproportionate prison terms for blacks, ending racial profiling and stepping up the policing of discrimination in employment and housing.

“The most important thing is that we have a person who gets it,” said Benjamin Jealous, president of the NAACP. “He understands that the purpose of incarceration is not just punishment and protection but it is also redemption. He understands that people shouldn’t be targeted because of what they look like but because of what they do. He understands that enforcing civil rights serves the interest of law enforcement. It’s not about what he looks like, it’s about what he believes.”

Holder will oversee civil rights enforcement, crime prevention and racial justice—issues with a broad impact and audience—among many competing priorities in an agency that also plays a central role in fighting terrorism and policing corporate abuse. {snip}

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“As someone who witnessed the civil rights movement and whose family members literally suffered through the evils of segregation, I hope I can bring a unique perspective to the department,” he said. “This department has played a historic role in civil rights over the years, and I owe it to those who came before me and to the American people I serve to oversee a vigorous enforcement program that deals with the realities we confront today.”

On issues of crime and punishment, Holder brings his background as a hard-nosed, law-and-order prosecutor. As a U.S. attorney in the District, he lobbied for tougher minimum sentences for drug offenders but later changed course on nonviolent criminals, according to Families Against Mandatory Minimums, a D.C.-based group that calls for changing the sentencing system.

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The black community’s relationship with the department has long been complicated. The distrust of law enforcement organizations was increased by the FBI, which for years harassed and spied on the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

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For criminal justice activists, a pressing concern has been sentencing disparities for convicts caught with crack cocaine versus powder cocaine. Possession of crack carries longer criminal penalties, and 80 percent of people prosecuted for crack offenses have been African American, according to the Sentencing Project. Obama has said repeatedly that he wants to end the sentencing disparity.

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The sentence disparities have combined with social and economic factors to lead to the increasing number of African Americans in prison, a figure that has grown from 100,000 in 1954—the year of the Supreme Court’s seminal school desegregation case—to 900,000 today, according to the Sentencing Project, a research and advocacy group.

“When we look at the prison system, it’s a much worse situation than we had seen before the rise of the modern-day civil rights movement,” said Mark Mauer, executive director of the group. “If current trends continue, one of every three black males today can expect to go to prison in their lifetime. It is one in every six for Hispanic men.”

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Holder seldom broaches the topic of race directly, but in a 1997 National Public Radio interview conducted soon after his appointment as the Justice Department’s second in command, he shared a quote by the late Samuel Proctor, a pastor in Harlem, that he carried in his wallet.

“It says that blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America,” Holder said. “No matter how affluent, educated and mobile a black person becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else.”

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1 — sbuffalonative wrote at 6:04 PM on February 5:


“…changing laws that lead to disproportionate prison terms for blacks, ending racial profiling and stepping up the policing of discrimination in employment and housing.”

We all know blacks are responsible for disproportionately high rates of violent crime when compared to whites so I don’t know how ‘ending racial profiling’ is going to change anything unless they’re not going to arrest criminals because they’re black.

About changing laws that give more sever terms to blacks, if it’s true, I’d like to see this addressed and solved. I am tired of the claim that blacks get harsher sentences for similar crimes with similar criminal backgrounds. If it’s not true, I’d like to this this myth exposed and retired.

As for stepping up enforcement of discrimination, I want them to have a solid case, not ‘hearsay’ or ‘feeling’ discriminated against. This one could turn into a witch hunt.

2 — SouthernJew wrote at 6:29 PM on February 5:

If, as the card he carries indicates, the new AG sees his race as the defining characteristic of his tenure, then our legal system is in for a long and dangerous four years.

3 — Tony Soprano wrote at 6:35 PM on February 5:

Good attorney general Holder can now do something about all the rapes of white women by black men.As you know each year 37000 white women are raped by black men while almost zero black women are raped by white men.HGe can also do something about all the other crimes mostly committed by blacks against whites. That’s the change I would like to have the same privilege of walking safely through a black community the way blacks can walk through white communities.

4 — Anonymous wrote at 6:36 PM on February 5:

“It says that blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America,” Holder said. “No matter how affluent, educated and mobile a black person becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else.”

Yes, it is their whole identity, and that makes it all the more hypocritical when they accuse whites of racism.


5 — Cogitator wrote at 6:39 PM on February 5:

Men are imprisoned at a far great rate than women. Is that because the system is sexist (genderist?), or is it because men behave in ways that causes them to be involved with the criminal “justice” system? Anyone with the IQ of an oyster knows the answer. I do not see anyone complaining about the disparity by sex. It should be obvious that some people will not face facts and realize that black men are far more often vicious criminals.

6 — Luke wrote at 6:44 PM on February 5:

“Civil rights advocates are already outlining a long list of priorities, including changing laws that lead to disproportionate prison terms for blacks, ending racial profiling and stepping up the policing of discrimination in employment and housing.”

I would like to encourage all white readers of AR to volunteer
to help move as many black families as possible into the neighborhoods of their fellow whites who had their yards decorated with ‘Obama-Biden 2008’ presidential campaign signs.

There are a few of those in my neighborhood, so I fully intend to do whatever I can to help put needy black families into the houses on both sides of them. And, if my Obama loving white neighbors are really as blessed as they think they are, after helping to elect him - perhaps their white daughters will be lucky enough to get called on by the black sons of those families?

Great idea, huh?

7 — Question Diversity wrote at 6:56 PM on February 5:

The only way you can change laws that mean disproportionate prison terms for black men is to have virtually no laws. For as Jared Taylor has outlined in “The Color of Crime,” blacks disproportionately commit most violent and sometimes non-violent crimes.

8 — feller wrote at 8:24 PM on February 5:

blacks in jail disproportionatally? Great. Release tens of thousands of them to equalize with number of whites jailed. Then Holder’s expensive home in DC gets burglarized, his wife raped. No problem. We shall overcome.

9 — Anonymous wrote at 8:44 PM on February 5:

“It says that blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America,” Holder said. “No matter how affluent, educated and mobile a black person becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else.”
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In other words, money and power and position are still not enough!

This person - a child of West Indian immigrant parents, not even Americans who have lived here for generations - has attained a very large income, an extremely high position (which is an understatement!) and immense power … in order words, this is OUR NEW RULING CLASS, quite literally, who will govern us and dictate to us how we shall live.

But yet —- despite achieving all that, it’s STILL not enough! Blackness, for him, remains another yet unrevolved issue.

What WILL be enough??? What does it take to satisfy these people? For every concession we make, they have a new demand.

The answer is obvious, as others here have already pointed out. It’s access to your homes, your families, and your daughters. Nothing less will ever suffice.


10 — Anonymous wrote at 9:04 PM on February 5:

Now lets take a look at reality..here is a sampling of
just ONE WEEK’s news here in tiny Salisbury Md.
1. Woman strangled at ATM machine after drawing $300 to
give assailant…photo of suspect black male age 22
2. Man asphyxiated after being robbed and wrapped
completely in duct tape. Photos of assailants two black women
one black male
3. Women stabbed to death at Tastee Freeze. Suspects
caught driving her new Nissan Altima. Photo of assailants
two black women,one black male.
4 Man shot in back of head robbed of $10. Black male suspect
arrested in Norcross GA.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS ONE WEEKS WORTH OF REALITY…behind the horrible “persecution”
and “racism” toward blackness in America

11 — T Rexx wrote at 9:17 PM on February 5:

Is it just me? Or is it blacks, blacks, blacks, everywhere you look blacks, blacks, blacks, on the tv in the news in Washington what has happened I even looked at an ad from a major upscale department store 12 of the models were black 5 hispanic and 3 white. come on now,,, this isn’t America YET!

12 — JPT wrote at 9:21 PM on February 5:

Holder and most non-whites get it about race being nature’s prime identity for each of us. It’s mostly just some dumb whites who don’t get it and who try to deny it.

Our white skin is not an afterthought or a paint job on a universal model human. It is essential to who and what we are. Not just because we look different because of our white skin, but because it makes us different in many ways that science is only now starting to understand.

Our super ability to produce Vitamin D is only one of the most obvious advantages our skin gives us in the survival game.

13 — Alexandra wrote at 9:26 PM on February 5:

SouthernJew—“If, as the card he carries indicates, the new AG sees his race as the defining characteristic of his tenure, then our legal system is in for a long and dangerous four years.”


Throw in the fact that he’s a gun grabber.

Hang on, kids, it’s going to be a bumpy ride….

14 — Alexandra wrote at 9:40 PM on February 5:

Blacks already get affirmative action, Section 8, welfare, and everything else…what more do they want? They’re getting a free ride and complaining about wrongs?

What’s really wrong is that we’re supporting these freeloaders with our taxes!

15 — Anonymous wrote at 9:43 PM on February 5:

changing laws that lead to disproportionate prison terms for blacks,

What does that mean? Legalizing murder and rape?

16 — Anonymous wrote at 9:48 PM on February 5:

This is going to lead to a catostrophic crime wave much like we hand in the 1960s. They simply will blame it on racism.

17 — Brett Stevens wrote at 9:58 PM on February 5:

His priorities focus on race, but we’re supposed to “get over” white racial angst.

Someday, those who resist this mentality will be seen as the visionaries of this time, which is already showing its age.

I encourage all of you to refer to the idea that diversity can work as outdated, un-progressive, primitive thinking, etc.

It’s time for humanity to move on instead of fighting over the past.

18 — Kelly Clarkson wrote at 10:21 PM on February 5:

I would just like to know why Mayor Ray Nagin hasn’t been incarcerated yet.

19 — aequus animus wrote at 10:54 PM on February 5:

First black president. First black attorney general. First black head of the Republican party. Does anyone else have the feeling that we’re being displaced?

20 — Lisette wrote at 10:59 PM on February 5:

Holder will oversee civil rights enforcement, crime prevention and racial justice—issues with a broad impact and audience—among many competing priorities in an agency that also plays a central role in fighting terrorism and policing corporate abuse. {snip}

Now he can start by cleaning up the fraud that is taking place at the Board of Immigration Appeals in the name of the US Attorney General…granting status to those who they deem to be worthy of it and denying others as they see fit in the name of their radical leftist political agenda.

21 — Trisket wrote at 11:32 PM on February 5:

We are living in a sit-com! haha

22 — Anonymous wrote at 11:52 PM on February 5:

Posted by Luke at 6:44 PM on February 5

“I would like to encourage all white readers of AR to volunteer
to help move as many black families as possible into the neighborhoods of their fellow whites who had their yards decorated with ‘Obama-Biden 2008’ presidential campaign signs.

There are a few of those in my neighborhood, so I fully intend to do whatever I can to help put needy black families into the houses on both sides of them. And, if my Obama loving white neighbors are really as blessed as they think they are, after helping to elect him - perhaps their white daughters will be lucky enough to get called on by the black sons of those families?

Great idea, huh?”
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Luke, you have given me a great idea!
A few of my neighbors are flaming Lib-tards and sometimes I get their mail by accident so I know their full names.
I am going to search out every shady Black charity scam/organization I can find and sign them up by name and address.
If my plan works, they will soon be inundated by mail and personal visits to thier door by every Black miscreant in town and elsewhere.
They love diversity so much? let’s see how much they like it when it’s at thier front door constantly!!!!!

Thanks Luke!

23 — AnalogMan wrote at 12:59 AM on February 6:

“When we look at the prison system, it’s a much worse situation than we had seen before the rise of the modern-day civil rights movement,” …

Now, I’m not one to accept blindly the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, but it’s at least a good working hypothesis in this case, don’t you think?

sbuffalonative@6:04: As for stepping up enforcement of discrimination, I want them to have a solid case…

This misses the point. Laws against discrimination are an abomination. In a free country, people should be free to decide what (legal) business they want to transact, and with whom, on whatever basis, for whatever reason they choose, or for no reason whatever.

24 — Antranick23 wrote at 1:34 AM on February 6:

Move along, nothing to see here. We are going to enforce the law as long as the enforcement conforms with our “civil rights” views. If there is a conflict, of course, the most important of the two factors will win out.

25 — Anonymous wrote at 1:39 AM on February 6:

From the article:

“The most important thing is that we [WE? WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US?] have a person who gets it,” said Benjamin Jealous, president of the NAACP. “He understands that the purpose of incarceration is not just punishment and protection but it is also redemption [WHAT A LOAD OF RACE-BASED NONSENSE!].”

The AG’s job is to uphold the law, not cotton-pick issues he has decided need “correcting” based on his race.

26 — Dr. Caligari wrote at 5:03 AM on February 6:

(stepping up the policing of discrimination in
employment and housing.)

So does this mean he will be cracking down on
Affirmative Action, which discriminates against
Whites in hiring ? No, I didn’t think so.

27 — Anonymous wrote at 5:55 AM on February 6:

‘He understands that people shouldn’t be targeted because of what they look like but because of what they do.”

Well then nothing will change. Because THEY do much worse and more often than do WHites.

28 — Dave wrote at 6:11 AM on February 6:

And when the violent crime rate goes up as usual will these polices be to blame? Will he be to blame? Of Course not.

All I can say is that if you don’t already own and know how to use a Firearm now is indeed the time for “change”.

29 — Fed Up wrote at 7:45 AM on February 6:

Sorry, TONY SOPRANO, you can bet the farm Holder will turn a blind eye to the Black-on-White crimes you pointed out. About the ONLY thing to expect from Holder will be MORE LENIENCY for Black perps. Maybe even making it a ‘criminal offense’ to describe your assailant, rapist or robber as being Black.

30 — Thomas Jackson wrote at 8:07 AM on February 6:

Exit polling for this last election indicates that 95% of blacks voted for Obama. The same exit polls showed that 43% of whites voted for Obama.

Interesting that both Blacks and Whites are funneled through the government re-education camps (AKA Public Schools) resulting in Blacks becoming Afro-centric and militant with Whites becoming fragmented milk-toast.

Zimbabwe here we come!

31 — George wrote at 9:22 AM on February 6:


“…his background as a hard-nosed, law-and-order prosecutor” is a media fiction given his history of pardons to major league terrorists and big money “friends of Bill”.
He holds our Constitution in as much contempt as does Obama and the Leftist Democratic Party. They view it as a ball of silly-putty to be molded as they see fit.
Watch out for direct attacks on the 1st and 2nd ammendments as well as Socialist doctrine heading towards outright Marxism.

32 — Anonymous wrote at 9:29 AM on February 6:

We all know blacks are responsible for disproportionately high rates of violent crime when compared to whites so I don’t know how ‘ending racial profiling’ is going to change anything unless they’re not going to arrest criminals because they’re black
Posted by sbuffalonative at 6:04 PM on February 5

Although blacks commit crimes diproportionately, over 80% of it is non violent. Such as drugs, gambling, public drunkness etc.

33 — Anonymous wrote at 10:14 AM on February 6:

The FBI spied on Martin Luther King because he was working with known communists. King was no better than Malcom X. At least malcom X was honest about his hate for white people. I see our country crumbling very fast. The economy is in the toilet, we are over-run with illegals, and the justice system is getting ready to be changed to suit the needs of minorities only. This will probably be the defining death blow to America as we know it.

34 — Soprano Fan wrote at 10:36 AM on February 6:

To Alexandra:

Not only is Holder a gun-grabber, trampling all over the Second Amendment, he also supported using the FBI at the siege in Waco, TX against the Branch Davidian sect there. He’s nothing more than Obama’s bootlicker, albeit a dangerous one.

35 — nignogger wrote at 10:43 AM on February 6:

Holder needs to focus instead on reining in his peoples’ criminal behaviour How come there is no violent crime in europe except african immigrants?

36 — tryclosan wrote at 10:49 AM on February 6:

“He understands that people shouldn’t be targeted because of what they look like but because of what they do.” Replace “targeted” with “hired”, and I’m all for it.

37 — Anonymous wrote at 11:22 AM on February 6:

One cannot legislate changes in human nature and the fact is that whites know that blacks will never adapt to white culture. Holder will discover that over-playing the race card will result in the ethnic cleansing of blacks from our society.

Whites no more accept Holder as a legitimate AG in our white nation than we accept Chairman Obama as a legitimate president.

American black slaves in America lived better than their African black ancestors living in Africa do today. Academia and the news and entertainment media go to great lengths to conceal this fact…

38 — Jimmy wrote at 11:37 AM on February 6:

We’ve entered the New Reconstruction where incompetent people attain high office just because they’re non-white.

Remember the white reaction during the last Reconstruction? Maybe something like that will happen again. Well, we can hope.

39 — browser wrote at 11:38 AM on February 6:

Is it just me? Or is it blacks, blacks, blacks, everywhere you look blacks, blacks, blacks… on the tv, in the news, in Washington, what has happened. I even looked at an ad from a major upscale department store 12 of the models were black 5 hispanic and 3 white.
Posted by T Rexx
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God! How true. No, it’s not just you. I’ve been noticing that too. In my newspaper the other day, I noticed the same — all blacks! Black faces everywhere. It looks like the Harlem News!

It used to be just the sports pages (which they took over years ago). And the crime reports too (minus photographs, in that case). But more recently, it’s the celebrity gossip, the entertainment, the advertisements, the social columns, political news and commentary … and now even the front page!

Of course, it’s all about who’s wedding whom, bedding whom, dating whom, divorcing whom. Who’s fighting with whom. Who got arrested. Who got off. Who got injured. Black stars! Black sports “heroes”! Black celebs! Black politicians! I say, who cares??? I’m not interested in their messy social lives. I doubt any whites are. Why have this stuff foisted on us … all in the name of diversity? Whites aren’t interested.

And of course, it’s all written in the same oozing, gushy manner, from the basic viewpoint of, “Isn’t it wonderful?” Never a breath of criticism is heard. Jamal just won the fourth grade spelling bee in his school; isn’t it wonderful? Urethia just gave birth to her second set of triplets: isn’t it wonderful? LeShawuan won a basketball scholarship to the local A&M community college: isn’t it wonderful? Caprice and Creola have opened an Afrocentric beauty parlour on MLK Blvd: isn’t it wonderful? Tyrone X was found innocent of rape, due to a technicality based on police bias. Isn’t it wonderful?

And now — the President and Attorney General have stated that …blah, blah, blah. The First Lady’s wardrobe (or hairdo, or poise, taste, charm, whatever) is being praised by …blah, blah, blah.

Enough!!! Are we a black African country already? Whatever happened to white people?

40 — browser wrote at 11:51 AM on February 6:


“If, as the card he carries indicates, the new AG sees his race as the defining characteristic of his tenure, then our legal system is in for a long and dangerous four years.” —Southern

“Holder and most non-whites get it about race being nature’s prime identity for each of us. “ — JPT
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The great irony about such people as Holder is that he really has no race.
(Just what is his race? Look at him. Like Obama, he’s somewhere betwixt and between.)

I have found from experience that raceless individuals like that are invariably tormented people. They’re full of resentment and confusion. They have no clear racial identity… AND THEY DON’T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE ONE EITHER!

41 — voter wrote at 11:56 AM on February 6:

Blacks already get affirmative action, Section 8, welfare, and everything else…what more do they want?
Posted by Alexandra


What do they want?
They want what you have. They want to BE you! Ultimately, they want to replace you.

42 — voter wrote at 11:59 AM on February 6:

This is going to lead to a catastrophic crime wave much like we had in the 1960s. They will simply blame it on racism.
Posted by Anonymous


Sounds like a repeat of NYC under the Dinkins administration. But this time on a nationwide level.

43 — Bill wrote at 12:06 PM on February 6:

Thd reason for the racial disparity in prison time between those dealing cocaine and those dealing crack cocaine is that black leaders complained bitterly that crack cocaine use was causing great harm to their communities. They demanded that the government do something to help. In response, legislatures passed laws that gave longer prison sentences for those caught dealing crack. The disparity was bought about by an attempt to help the blacks. You cannot win.

44 — Stone Greaser wrote at 12:43 PM on February 6:

aequus animus wrote - “First black president. First black attorney general. First black head of the Republican party. Does anyone else have the feeling that we’re being displaced?”


Good point. Blacks are still only 12-15% of the total population. What other country has a such a small minority running things?
Pathetic…

45 — Anonymous wrote at 12:45 PM on February 6:

I can only imagine the bias the new attorney general feels for the main officially in his eyes responsible practitioners for black injustice which is of course white people. I don’t see with that kind of belief and the apparent chip on his shoulder about blackness how he could possibly be objective.

46 — Anonymous wrote at 2:17 PM on February 6:

The FBI spied on Martin Luther King because he was working with known communists. King was no better than Malcom X. At least malcom X was honest about his hate for white people. I see our country crumbling very fast. The economy is in the toilet, we are over-run with illegals, and the justice system is getting ready to be changed to suit the needs of minorities only. This will probably be the defining death blow to America as we know it.

Posted by Anonymous at 10:14 AM on February 6

I was only a child in the 1950’s but it must have been heaven on earth for white people. With their ingenuity and hard work they created an almost perfect society. Growing up I hardly ever saw a minority. Everybody looked like me. Then the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed opening the floodgates to the third world.
Then Reagan’s Amnesty of 1986 was the final death blow as millions of mexicans poured over the border wanting the same amnesty. Yes our country is now dead. R.I.P. Uncle Sam.

47 — Alexandra wrote at 2:17 PM on February 6:

@Soprano Fan

So like Janet Reno, he probably considers Christianity to be a dangerous cult.

Why does this not surprise me?

48 — ricpic wrote at 2:46 PM on February 6:

What does racial justice even mean? Whatever it means the practical consequence of racial justice, so called, is that black criminals are never jailed or are released from jail, which in turn means thousands of innocent whites and blacks mugged, raped and murdered, who would have escaped those fates had racial justice never been implemented.

49 — Graham of Wales wrote at 2:56 PM on February 6:

The only remaining method of ending black crime is to use brainwashing and social engineering techniques targetted specifically at black potential criminals.
In fact, much the same brainwashing techniques as those used on white people to get them to accept that black crime is a nurture and not a nature phenomenon.

50 — danjack wrote at 3:06 PM on February 6:

how many racial wrongs do we need righted? we have nothing but favorable legislation as it relates to blacks. what else do they want? some of our politicians ought to sit down with black leaders and make them make a list of the civil rights that whites own, that we are not allowing them to have. there would be none. also make them make a list of their final greviences listing everything they want so we can put this matter behind us. tell them we will honor the list and require them to make one, once and for all. after that case closed forever. i assure you they do not want the case closed, because they can continue their complaining from now on, and profit by it. also play hard ball with them by reminding them that no living black was ever a slave, and no living white person was ever a slave owner. we owe them nothing, and when we stand up and say that with force, then things will start to change. they are just like hyenas they steal and take by whatever means they can, and marching and demonstrating is effective. they have lost all touch with reality, a good example is rev wright, who drives 2 mercedes benz, lives in a 10 million dollar house and stands there condemning white america because somehow he has been wronged. it is absolutely laughable.

51 — sbuffalonative wrote at 3:15 PM on February 6:

“Although blacks commit crimes diproportionately, over 80% of it is non violent. Such as drugs, gambling, public drunkness etc.

Posted by Anonymous at 9:29 AM on February 6

They’re still committing the majority of crime regardless of your claim that it’s only ‘non-violent’. If white people in my community were committing these crimes at black levels, they would be arrested for doing so because none of use would stand for it. The problem with black communities is that they, like you, want to turn criminals into victims. They’re not victims. They’re criminals.

Let’s play a what-if game. What if we no longer arrested black criminals for committing the non-violent crimes you stated. What impact do you believe that would have on your community? Would simply not arresting them make them better people or cause their disruptive and abusive anti-social activity to disappear? Would the quality of life in a black community rise or fall? By how much? How long would it take before that black community became unlivable?

The problem with black communities is not that there are too many black men in jail. The problem is that not enough black criminals are in jail and are free to destroy black communities with their non-violent and other qualiaty of life crimes. This is one reason white communities are better. We don’t tolerate ‘non-violent’ crimes.

As far as I’m concerned, if you want to release all the non-violent black criminal from prison, I’m fine with that so long as you keep them your communities where they’re free to continue doing their non-violent crimes. Deal?

Go to this link and read it carefully:

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

52 — Anonymous wrote at 3:56 PM on February 6:

No matter how affluent, educated and mobile a black person becomes, his GENES AND THEIR ASSOCIATED TENDENCIES define him more particularly than anything else.
Perhaps something that is more basic is more important.

53 — voter wrote at 5:42 PM on February 6:

aequus animus wrote - “First black president. First black attorney general. First black head of the Republican party. Does anyone else have the feeling that we’re being displaced?”
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Does anyone else even notice???
Oh, they’re all applauding it as a sign of “progress”, because they’ve been taught to celebrate our diversity.
(It is the source of our strength, you know.)

54 — been there wrote at 6:01 PM on February 6:

” black leaders complained bitterly that crack cocaine use was causing great harm to their communities. They demanded that the government do something. In response, legislatures passed laws that gave longer prison sentences for those caught dealing crack. The disparity was bought about by an attempt to help the blacks. You cannot win.”
Posted by Bill


Precisely. As any police commander knows, black groups complain constantly about drugs and crime in the “black community” and about inadequate or indifferent police protection. Then, when more police are assigned, or the cops become more pro-active, they complain about being under surveillance and having too many car stops, too many frisks; and when arrests increase, they complain that they are being unfairly targeted for arrest; and when they resist being arrested, they complain about police brutality.
As you said, YOU CAN’T WIN.

55 — been there wrote at 6:09 PM on February 6:

“I was only a child in the 1950’s but it must have been heaven on earth for white people. With their ingenuity and hard work they created an almost perfect society. Growing up I hardly ever saw a minority.”
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To tell you the truth, we took it for granted. We never gave it a second thought. It just seemed normal. Especially after we had put the 2nd WW behind us (and “made the world safe for democracy”), we thought it would last forever. Things would just get better and better.

Nothing lasts forever. And progress is not guaranteed.

56 — Anonymous wrote at 8:41 PM on February 6:

It’s not just you T Rexx,blacks on every channel,sporting team,sports shows,mixed race female t.v.news anchors,newspaper ads.magazine covers,commercial voice overs,[Chevrolet’Verizon],just two mentioned,blacks advanced to positions of importance,police chiefs,fire chiefs,execs,head coaches of sports teams,governors,mayors,heads of political partys.attorneys,on and on,all done through affirmative action!

All the while the White male is denigrated and made to look a buffon on sitcoms and commercials,partial answer?boycott,boycott, boycott!

It should be chillingly evident as to where this is all headed,and think of what our sons and grand sons will face!

57 — AnalogMan wrote at 2:06 AM on February 7:

What other country has a such a small minority running things? - Stone Greaser 12:43

…the 1950’s but it must have been heaven on earth … Anonymous 2:17

I lived in such a country in those times. In the 1950’s, I was a child in the old South Africa, which was run by a White minority. In the town where I lived, blacks lived in a separate township, or in accommodation provided by their employers to domestic servants. At 9:00 p.m. every evening, a siren would sound, and all blacks had to be off the streets in the white areas. The police patrolled, and arrested any blacks abroad who did not have a letter from their employer detailing where they were going and till what time.

Sounds draconian, doesn’t it? But it was our town, our culture, and we protected it. I could walk anywhere in our town at any time of day or night, alone, in perfect safety. And I did.

That is heaven on earth. And although I may be unique, or at least rare, on this board in having experienced it, I’m also rare in that I have actually lost my country. The rest of you are rapidly losing yours, and that scares me, because I am losing my world. That’s OK, I’m old; but my children are losing theirs, and so are your children.

58 — Anonymous wrote at 9:01 AM on February 7:

“Although blacks commit crimes diproportionately, over 80% of it is non violent. Such as drugs, gambling, public drunkness etc.”
Posted by Anonymous at 9:29 AM on February 6

This is one of those “what has that got to do with the price of tea in China” arguments. This is a big - so what! So 80% of the crimes blacks commit are non-violent. Are you black? This is typical black resoning.

The fact remains that blacks are about 12% of the population and account for over 50% of the violent crime.

- Realist in Atlanta

59 — Enough! wrote at 2:00 PM on February 7:

“It’s not just you T Rexx,blacks on every channel,sporting team,sports shows,mixed race female t.v.news anchors,newspaper ads.magazine covers,….etc.etc.

All the while the White male is denigrated and made to look a buffon on sitcoms and commercials. Partial answer? Boycott,boycott, boycott!”

***********
How true! Just the other day in the supermarket, I couldn’t help noticing the faces on the boxes of cereal. EVERY ONE paired a black face with a white face, all smiley inter-racial couples happily hugging each other, obviously being either married or the best of friends. Black male with white female. White female with black female. Etc. No blacks with blacks, or whites with whites. Only mixed. couples. Just one specimen was missing: NO WHITE MALES!

This stuff is EVERYWHERE! When you stop to notice, we are bombarded with it.

I did not, and will not, buy their brand of breakfast cereal. They are plugging miscegenation, and I refuse to be propagandized in this way. Let them go back to selling cereal, not race-mixing. Same thing with the news and weather reports on TV. Let them stick to telling us the news and weather, and leave the subliminal racial agitprop out of it.

60 — Anonymous wrote at 2:20 PM on February 7:

The problem with black communities is not that there are too many black men in jail. The problem is that not enough black criminals are in jail and are free to destroy black communities with their non-violent and other qualiaty of life crimes.
This is one reason white communities are better. We don’t tolerate ‘non-violent’ crimes.

Posted by sbuffalonative


Blacks howl and complain about crime that’s destroying their communities, and about police unresponsiveness or excessive police zeal (either one). But they draw the line when THEIR son or THEIR nephew gets arested. Oh no! Now that’s police abuse!

They want you to go arrest someone else, but not their family. The problem is that everyone is somebody’s son and belongs to somebody’s family.

61 — Bill Mulder wrote at 3:50 PM on February 7:

Is it just me? Or is it blacks, blacks, blacks, everywhere you look blacks, blacks, blacks, on the tv in the news in Washington what has happened I even looked at an ad from a major upscale department store 12 of the models were black 5 hispanic and 3 white. come on now,,, this isn’t America YET!

Posted by T Rexx at 9:17 PM on February 5

No, T Rexx, you are definitely not the only one. I feel the same way. I’m sick of it too. Talking about it on this board is one thing, but white people need to take it to the next level. White people must stand up and say “ENOUGH”, or accept the consequences of sitting on their butts groveling to non-whites. Groveling doesn’t work. White people (Europeans) made this country what it is, not exclusively, but mostly. Non-whites gravitate to America because they want what America offers; FREEDOM! They abuse the system because they lack the morality required to make a system work. Is it any surprise? That’s what they left behind, but not really left behind, because they take it with them. I believe the only chance America has for survival is for white Americans to band together and stop tolerating the multicultural failure. I would like to see the leaders of AMREN do what it takes to make more Americans aware of what is going on in America.

62 — BonBon wrote at 2:01 AM on February 8:

“…Although blacks commit crimes diproportionately (sic), over 80% of it is non violent. Such as drugs, gambling, public drunkness (sic) etc…”

Posted by Anonymous at 9:29 AM on February 6

Nonsense.

I’m reading a lot of foolishness on this site lately. There seems to be a lot of pontificating by blacks and a few others about such things as ‘Cleopatra was black’ and ‘80% of black crime is non-violent’—without a shred of evidence presented to back up any of these premises.

Here are a few facts about black crime from The Color of Crime, a well-researched, well-written, well-footnoted, well-documented book that makes use of FBI, DOJ and other reliable, verifiable sources.

I know of no rebuttal or refutation of the statistics quoted about black crime in The Color of Crime.

As Nicholas Stix writes:

“…The Color of Crime…is the most scientifically rigorous research on crime and race available. It’s the state of the art…”

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/


“…Blacks are just 13 percent of the population but they commit more than half the muggings and murders in the country…”

I wouldn’t call murder or muggings non-violent, would you?

“…A black is about 39 times more likely to do violence to a white than the other way around, and no less than 130 times more likely to rob a white….”

Do you consider robbery non-violent? Is attacking Whites non-violent? Only the lame, biased media would report something so blatantly stupid—just as they refuse, more often than not, to identify the race of criminals (unless the criminal is White, then it is Front Page news, centered, above the fold, and replete with pictures). Is it any wonder that main stream newspapers are hemorrhaging readers and many are on the verge of bankruptcy? Good Riddance.

“…Every year there are about 15,000 black-on-white rapes but fewer than 900 white-on-black rapes. There are more than 3,000 gang rapes of whites by blacks—but white-on-black gang rapes are so rare they do not even show up in the statistics….”

How about rape? Is that also non-violent to you?

And here’s the good news for you: The Color of Crime is available for you to read right here and now, for free, no less.

http://www.colorofcrime.com/

I suggest you read it and familiarize yourself with the statistics about the huge amount of violence blacks commit, especially as it pertains to violence committed against Whites, before you post here again.

Bon


63 — beenthere wrote at 12:25 PM on February 8:

“…Blacks are just 13 percent of the population but they commit more than half the muggings and murders in the country…”
I wouldn’t call murder or muggings non-violent, would you?

— It is truly a stunning triumph of propaganda, and proof positive of the power of media, that such amazing, outrageous statistics could be covered up so effectively and the public be convinced that the facts are actually the reverse. And furthermore, putting salt on the wound, that the victim group are really the guilty ones, while the aggressor group are always portrayed as victims deserving of endless sympathy, concessions and compensation.

“…A black is about 39 times more likely to do violence to a white than the other way around, and no less than 130 times more likely to rob a white….”
Do you consider robbery non-violent?

— No, Bon. Obviously not. Robbery, by its very definition (at least in NY State) inherently inplies the use of force or the threat of it (such as a weapon). Anything non-violent or weaponless (such as pickpocketing or purse shatch) is classified as larceny, not “robbery”. The public may recognize no such fine distinction, but those who compile statistics do.

Incidentally, a great many actual robberies (to keep the bad crime stats down) are listed as larcenies. Just omit mention of the violence or the weapon. So the real picture is worse than it appears. Police commanders don’t get promoted and politicians don’t look good when robbery stats are high. Politicians get re-elected when stats go down. Some politicians (such as Guiliani, or at least those who worked for him) were experts in “finessing” the statistics. Things are not always what they seem.

Only the lame, biased media would … refuse, more often than not, to identify the race of criminals (unless the criminal is White, then it is Front Page news, centered, above the fold, and replete with pictures). Is it any wonder that main stream newspapers are hemorrhaging readers and many are on the verge of bankruptcy? Good Riddance.

— Maybe good. Maybe not. The essential question is what will replace them? If TV, it’s not any better, probably even worse.

64 — Bobby wrote at 8:05 PM on February 8:

As one poster a while back often said, “RACISM will never be fixed, and the reason is that charges of racism “WORK” for the accuser. Real judgement and justice in the United States has become so corrupted by lawyers, immigration groups, self serving ethnic interest groups, far leftists, and for many other reasons, that the very idea of having any sense of balance racial issues, is totally impossible and will lead to the continuous corrosion of The United States of America, until it becomes a nation reduced to a gaggle of squabbling, self-serving malcontents, who will stop all PROGRESS on almost EVERYTHING.

I wish my conclusion was totally false, but I fear it isn’t. The signs and clues of what’s coming are all around us, and increasing. Who is going to stop the insanity? The two major political parties will never do it, since they are the ones profitting from the present lunatic way of doing things.

65 — sudoesteuroman wrote at 9:31 PM on February 8:

It’s the old nature vs. nurture dilemma. From Marx to Boas to Jared Diamond to every sociology department in every university in the west, people have been conditioned to believe that blacks and non-whites have been improperly nurtured by white society. Ergo, the problem lies with white society.

What is interesting however is that while non whites CONSTANTLY complain about white society and CONSTANTLY try to reform its supposedly evil nature, none of the those raising the concerns want to emigrate from white countries to the non white paradises of the world.

It must be emphasized to the complainers that in order to live well in white societies, they simply must conform to the morals and values of white societies.

I seriously doubt that even the most virulent white racist cares about a black man’s actual skin color. It’s rather the behavior, stupid. Once the behavior of two different races equalizes, then skin color becomes meaningless - unless of course the nature of skin color does have an impact on general behavior. And this of course is one of the great taboo topics of the late 20th, early 21st centuries.

So we continue to go round and round on the nature-nurture dilemma. Unfortunately, this prevarication only aids in the hastening of the demise of western culture. As a wise man once said: “…demographics is destiny”. And since whites will continue to lose the demographic battle, it’s just a matter of time till Darwinian forces engulf the world, or at least the western part of it, in a perpetual barbarism.

66 — BonBon wrote at 1:17 PM on February 9:

Been There:

Thanks for expounding on my post.

You write:

“…such amazing, outrageous statistics could be covered up so effectively and the public be convinced that the facts are actually the reverse…”

Such is the power of the MSM and the government-controlled schools.

You also write:

“…The essential question is what will replace them? If TV, it’s not any better, probably even worse….”

I stopped watching TV news years ago and cancelled my subscription to the LA Times due to anti-White propaganda, dismissal and/or suppression of non-White-on-White-crime, illegal immigrant sob stories, overt enthusiasm for non-White immigration, and especially their anti-gun stance.

The Internet (such as AmRen, VDare, Kevin McDonald’s Site) is a much better source of news (why do you think there are Democrat screams to ‘regulate’ the Internet, according to THEIR mores, of course)—also talk radio ( under heavy attack by Democrats who are hell-bent on reviving the so-called ‘Fairness Doctrine.’).

George Orwell was correct when he stated:

“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.”

Bon

67 — Anonymous wrote at 10:09 PM on February 9:

“I stopped watching TV news years ago and cancelled my subscription to the LA Times due to anti-White propaganda”


I just read today (Pat Buchanan) that the NY Times is in danger of going under! I had not known this.
Whatsmore, it’s now in hock to the somewhat shady Mexican billionaire, Carlos Slim, who may buy it.


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