Dan Morse and Ann E. Marimow, Washington Post, January 11, 2009
For years, mainstream Montgomery County has been generally accepting of illegal immigrants, and county leaders followed suit, pledging not to enforce immigration laws even as police agencies elsewhere in the region began to do so.
But public sentiment appears to be shifting in Montgomery, driven less by ideology than by alarm over rising crime and the recent slayings of a 14-year-old honor student on a county transit bus and a 63-year-old woman in her Bethesda home.
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Elrich [County Council member Marc Elrich (D-At Large)] said crime has “really hit home” even in his neighborhood of Takoma Park, a city that since 1985 has officially refused to identify or report undocumented immigrants.
Mariana Cordier, who grew up in the county and is a past president of the Maryland Hispanic Bar Association, said residents are increasingly linking crime to illegal immigration.
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Police Chief J. Thomas Manger is developing a proposal to have county police officers check the immigration status of suspects arrested for violent crimes and weapons offenses.
“I wouldn’t have gone for it a year ago,” Bethesda resident Judy Campbell said recently, leaving a natural food co-op in Takoma Park with soy milk and a slice of vegan double-chocolate fudge cake. “Until this series of violent crimes, it wasn’t on my radar screen.”
Campbell, a 50-year-old nurse, is an avowed liberal. She thinks illegal immigrants deserve publicly funded health care. {snip}
But she supports the chief’s efforts, in part because the emerging proposal is not as far-reaching as policies that have been enacted in Prince William and Frederick counties.
Some officials, including County Executive Isiah Leggett (D), say they have detected no major shift in public sentiment. Leggett, who in the past has said Montgomery should not be in the business of enforcing immigration laws, would have to approve the proposal before it could take effect.
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The proposal is a departure from past practice for a police agency that has cultivated relations with immigrant communities. The department has long taken the position that delving into immigration matters could jeopardize cooperation from crime victims and witnesses, undermining public safety.
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Until recently, concern in Montgomery over illegal immigration focused chiefly on opposition to a county plan to open a day-laborer center in Gaithersburg.
But when illegal immigrants were charged in the two killings, one of which police linked to a series of home invasions, the issue found a wider audience, said Rene Sandler, a Rockville defense attorney.
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Serious crime is up 7.7 percent in Montgomery, a trend driven by increases in home and car break-ins across the county. Police acknowledge that they do not know how much of that increase, if any, is attributable to illegal immigrants.
As of a week ago, eight of 16 people held in the county jail on murder charges had immigration detainers placed on them, meaning federal authorities might move to deport them after their criminal cases have run their course. Such suspects are not necessarily in the country illegally.
Police officials, however, have said two of the suspects—alleged gang members accused in the Nov. 1 shooting death of 14-year-old Tai Lam—are illegal immigrants whose status went undetected during previous arrests in the county.
“People in the mainstream are saying, ‘Wow, we could have had this person and we didn’t. What could have been done differently?’ ” said council member Michael Knapp (D-Upcounty).
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As a practical matter, Gutierrez said, officers could not determine which suspects to question without engaging in profiling. She said officers would also need to become familiar with the complex terrain of immigration matters, including more than 100 types of visas.
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Currently, when Montgomery officers detain a suspect, they run a routine check for outstanding warrants. If the check turns up a warrant from immigration officials, federal authorities are notified.
Some jurisdictions are far more aggressive. Prince William drew national attention in 2007 by proposing that officers check the immigration status of those detained, even for such minor infractions as speeding, if they thought the detainees might be in the country illegally. The county backed off that approach but requires that officers ask about the status of everyone they place under arrest.
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Original article
(Posted on January 12, 2009)
Comments
“Elrich [County Council member Marc Elrich (D-At Large)] said crime has “really hit home” even in his neighborhood of Takoma Park, a city that since 1985 has officially refused to identify or report undocumented immigrants.”
Excellent!!! Takoma Park is a DC suburb whose residents are the most radical, anti white racist, new age ultra liberal Whites in the DC area. There are many federal government and minority pressure goup attorneys living there. They are the ones who made the decisions to invite the criminal world to come to the USA. It’s also a real haven for marxist anti white feminists.
Let them enjoy their beloved illegal hispanic gangsters. They wanted them. They imposed the illegals on the rest of the country. Let them live in the world they made.
Attention Takoma Park feminazis. Before you begin your next anti rape fundraising effort, take a long hard look at just who commits the rapes in this country. Hint: It’s not the evil white men.
Multiculturalism looks good in movies, on TV, and in children’s storybooks. But up-close and personal, it’s quite a different matter.
I live in the People’s Republic of Montgomery County and am well aware of the problems with illegals in that area. I know many Democrats and other Liberals and all of them want the illegals gone. I am delighted to hear that the Montgomery County government is finally getting the message however they help to fund the day labor centers and also an organization called CASA Maryland, which is an illegal alien enabler organization. Of course if the Fed’s would just do their job (defending the boarders and enforcing the law) this would not be a problem in any community.
Judy Campbell, YOU are very free to pay for illegal alien health care if you like. The rest of us shouldn’t be forced to.
All non-English speaking non-Whites should be expelled from the United States immediately.
If this was 1943 and a local police force allowed German spys to go on their merry way because they felt catching spys was a federal issue, what do you think would be the reaction of the public?
The entire law enforcement infrastructure of the country should be coordinated around the task of getting rid of hispanics, whether in traffic stops or just loitering at the local 7-11. The non-violent should be immediately deported and gang members executed. They are an invading army, not petty criminals.
It would also help if the Feds stopped requiring businesses hire quotas of hispanics, and actually guarded our borders.
I live in Montgomery county and I can tell you it must be the most liberal place on earth with the exception of San Francisco and Amsterdam. Moco residents will never support enforcement.
I live in MoCo MD.
The simple fact is that MoCo whites have no alternative to anti-white & anti-America politicians like Leggett, Elrich, Gutierrez, Manger, and the like. MoCo “Republicans” are so liberal that most people would mistake them for Democrats.
Therefore, it does not matter how upset the MoCo public is. We have nobody to turn to. All anti-white racists like Leggett have to do is hunker down and wait until the storm passes. Then they can go back to turning what was once one of the top 5 wealthiest counties in the US into a 3rd World slum.
The moral of the story is that if you have not organized a resistance movement BEFORE the crisis happens, you will not be able to influence things AFTER the crisis happens.
“I wouldn’t have gone for it a year ago,” Bethesda resident Judy Campbell said recently, leaving a natural food co-op in Takoma Park with soy milk and a slice of vegan double-chocolate fudge cake. “Until this series of violent crimes, it wasn’t on my radar screen.”
A liberal? I never would have guessed.
And so it goes. Most liberals won’t be concerned until it hits home and by then it will be too reverse the tide. They could do something now to save this country from becoming a third world cess pool but life is good for them so why worry? Unfortunately for White people like me who are already living on the “front lines”-that is in a 50% black and mexican low income neighborhood- we already paying the price for their egoism.
At this point in time, after a solid half-century of experience with the wrongheaded “equalitarian” experiment, only the most foolish and dishonest can deny what is readily apparent to even the most casual observer. Any influx of blacks (or Mestizos) degrades any community - as the non-White population increases, crime goes up, schools degrade, and the general civic spirit and goodwill erode, and, eventually, disappear. There is not a community anywhere onthis continent, in which this has not happened after a demographic shift. Promotors of diversity are not misguided or malinformed; rahter, they are treacherous and dishonest about their motives. It’s time to call a spade a spade.
typical, waiting too long to see the big picture.
Everyone might as well get used to it, enforcing immigration laws are far down the list of priorities for the new administration.
This is proof positive of the naivety and political ignorance of these people who rail against us who oppose illegal aliens. But wait until President BO gets in with his amnesty program and things will go from bad to worse.
The formula is simple, easy to understand: Illegal Mexican immigrants move into a White community. Crime suddenly goes up. Store managers find shoplifting to be a constant problem. Cars get broken into, even tires sometimes get stolen. Neighbors are shocked to find single-family dwellings on their street now become home to “extended families” — usually four to six adults, ten to twelve children. You suddenly see cars coming and going at all hours, day or night. Oil-dripping junkers parked everywhere. You become uncomfortable at leaving your home empty while you and your wife go to work. Wondering whether your home gets ransacked during the day.
That’s the real meaning of multi-culturalism as your area gets flooded with illegal immigrants. Problem being that the spokesmen for illegal immigration will NEVER ADMIT that facet of illegal immigration. Now WHY would we Americans want to subject ourselves to this scenario? Just so the owners of fast-food restaurant franchises, general contractors, wash-wash emporiums and other businesses can get cheap labor. While WE PAY THE COST!
This woman, Campbell sounds like a bonafide flake and socialist with the typical liberal bleeding heart for blacks and Hispanics. I have a sister in law who feels the same way, the attitude being that “these people” are only here to make a better living. The word illegal just doesn’t register and the realities of crime, social costs, neighborhoods deteriorating, etc., don’t exist until they’re on their door step.
Could someone please link the article on the murder of the 14-year-old kid on a bus? Killed by an illegal alien, I’m assuming. Why didn’t I hear about this in the mainstream??? Oh, wait, I know why.
Welcome Back A.R. we missed you.
It’s not that immigrants are unwelcome in the United States they are not BUT they need to understand we have rules and laws on how to be here LEGALLY and that we will enforce them. So don’t buy a house, put your kids in school, go to the emergency room seeking FREE medical care and think you are going to stay. Because that is starting to change (as it should).
“Campbell, a 50-year-old nurse, is an avowed liberal. She thinks illegal immigrants deserve publicly funded health care…”
Well, Ms. Campbell, how about paying for my health care? My husband and I are now forced to pay $878 a month for health care while tens of millions of illegal aliens in this country are enjoying this “humane right” for free!
I cannot see one single benefit from wide open borders and this never-ending tsunami of Third World invaders! All I can see is the utter and ever-quickening deterioration of our living standards and quality of life…
Pollution, Drugs, Crime, Failing Schools, Illiteracy, Bankrupt Hospitals, Diseases, Congestion, Over-Crowded Prisons, Damaged Infrastructures, Less Natural Resources, Fraud and ID Theft, Less Jobs, Lowering Wages, Less Social Services, Bankruptcy, Language Barriers, Culture Clashes, and more and more Poverty…
While our Royal “ruling class” members enjoy life in their safe and secure ivory towers, our castles turn into slums. While our leaders fail to secure our borders, our country gets flooded with drugs, crime and poverty. Working-class Americans are paying the dreadful price of the “idealism” sanctioned around the dinner tables in Washington, DC.
When will all of this insanity END? When we can throw all of the open-border, free-trading traitors OUT of office and elect honest leaders who care about America!
“The county backed off that approach but requires that officers ask about the status of everyone they place under arrest.”
that’s the way to avoid profiling and discrimination charges. Check the immigration status of everyone who is arrested, even if the arrestee is the officer’s cousin and clerk’s husband. That way the ACLU, ADL, MALDEF etc can’t scream racism and profiling.
One of the ways private sector businesses use to keep disfunctional blacks out of their workplace is to require mandotory drug testing, criminal records check and drug testing for every job applicant.
This keeps the ghetto thugs out of the company. Unfortunately the ghetto thugs are then employed at alternative to welfare government jobs.
I love to see liberals victims of the criminal activities of their beloved minority victims of evil whitey.
I wonder how Tai Lam’s parents and other relatives feel about the great black, asian, hispanic, indian and middle eastern coalition against evil whitey, cause of every problem on earth who forced those poor, unfortunate illegal alien hispanic victims of a racist white society to board a city bus and open fire on their son?
“People in the mainstream are saying, ‘Wow, we could have had this person and we didn’t. What could have been done differently?’ ” said council member Michael Knapp (D-Upcounty).”
Montgomery County is obviously run by a collection of self-deluded liberal imbiciles. Where else would a crime increase be coming from - except from a growing population of unemployed illegal vagrants without any respect for the country they’re in, or its population?
It’s also obvious that the college-educated liberal community in Mongomery County have been propagandized by their “higher learning institutions” into thinking solely with their emotions, and to regard correct reasoning as some sinister habit to be shunned.
In short, they are just more of the all-too-prevalent university manufactured liberal idiots, continuing to humm kumbayya until they’re mugged - and probably afterward.
“ILEGAL INVADER (does not) = IMMIGRANT!”
Hah! That’s what you think. If you listen to the program “Latino USA” on public radio they DO use it as a euphimism for (implied)
http://www.latinousa.org/
T-Rexx,
As Felipe Caldron once said, “Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.”
It doesn’t matter whether a Mexican in the United States is “legal” or not - he is an unwelcome and unnecessary burden to the United States and should be repatriated along with the Chinese, the Arab Muslims, and Africans.
what are we all belly aching about, it couldn’t happen to a better neighborhood. let the liberals live the life they created.
For Anonymous:
MCPD Press Release: http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Police/News/NA_details.asp?NaID=4422
Short story is that Tai Lam (straight-A student, athlete, from an immigrant family, yaddayaddayadda) and his friends got into a beef with a couple of 20-something, illegal alien, MS-13 gangbangers over seats on a bus. (Bad life choice!) While one of his homies held the bus door open, Hector Mauricio Hernandez shot into the bus, killing Tai Lam and wounding 2 of his friends.
Here’s the good part. Montgomery County police had arrested Hernandez a month ago for carrying a concealed weopon (switchblade), but judge let him go on his own recognisance. PLUS, the homie who held the bus door open for him had been arrested by MCPD in June for carrying a machete in broad daylight in Langley Park, MD. (Stuffed down his pants leg. OUch!) He spent 7-8 days in jail but walked when the arresting officer did not show at court. (talk about another bad life choice. He’ll probably be looking for a job as a security guard soon…)
BOTH shooter and door-holder are illegal aliens. But since they did not have ICE warrants or detainers, and since MCPD has a policy of not checking into immigration status, both were put back on the streets.
Google news for “Tai Lam” + murder and you’ll get lots of hits.
Listen up, friends in MoCo:
You are on the same path of destruction as LA. The boobs on your local city council favor and prefer illegal immigrants over the residents of your community. They have put in place policies that resemble LAs Special Order 40—the order that Judicial Watch has described as as “an illegal policy that places the citizens of Los Angeles (and the nation) at risk.”
Sooner than you think, these illegal colonists, through high birth rates and endless chain migration, will out number and then out-vote you. The names of your city council and mayor will change. You will be beholden to race-based politicians who only promote and advocate for their own people, at your expense.
If you resist or complain, you will be called every name for racist and Nazi.
Your choice will be to flee or watch as your once peaceful, beautiful hometown turns into a graffiti-filled, violent Third World Dump. If you choose to stay, expect to pay satanic taxes to support these leeches and parasites and to live your life behind high walls with expensive security systems in order to protect yourself and loved ones from home invasions, robberies, break-ins and other violence.
This is what will be your future if you let the idiots on the city council welcome criminal illegal immigrants into your community.
It is way too late for LA, there is no turning back. What was once an amazing, beautiful city with clean beaches, safe streets, top-rated schools, fabulous parks—is now a gridlocked, dirty, graffiti-filled, gang-ridden hell hole.
I know because I grew up in LA, near the beach, during its final golden age—the late 50s, early 60s.
Don’t let this happen to your community.
Bon
The far out liberals in Mont. Co. had no problem with illegals living in the U.S. as long as the county was not adversly affected. Now they see the light, at least some of them do, and watch they holler. What is that about “what goes around….”
Because of the rowdy blacks and hispanics using public transportation, the elites of Maryland’s DC suburbs don’t want to extend the light rail line anywhere their elite suburbs.
But when hispanic and black thugs harass and threaten riders in the less affluent areas, the elites call for understanding and forgiveness because of discrimination against black native born criminals and illegal alien hispanic criminals.
“Meanwhile, in DC’s Maryland suburbs we’re inching ever closer to actually starting work on the Purple Line light rail. This would connect several destinations that are already served by transit and walkable transit-oriented development, provide transit access to the University of Maryland’s main campus, and also create the possibility of new transit-oriented development at additional stops along the way.
It’s a good idea that will help reduce congestion on the Beltway, reduce carbon emissions, and enhance the region’s ability to keep growing in a sustainable manner.
Every environmental group in the city is for it. But a group of NIMBYs centered around the town of Chevy Chase, MD and the Columbia Country Club are trying to block it in order to keep the riffraff out and are offering some spurious environmental claims to try to block construction.
They’ve engaged the large DC firm of Sidley Austin to help them in their fight. And Sidley’s doing the work pro bono — for free — as charity. No doubt in part this is because Joseph Guerra is both a partner in the firm and the husband of the woman co-chairing the NIMBY effort.”
