CNN, December 11, 2008
The Republican party must stop “shouting at the world” and start listening to minority groups if it is to win elections in the 21st century, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday.
In an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria for Sunday’s “GPS” program, President Bush’s former secretary of state said his party’s attempt “to use polarization for political advantage” backfired last month.
“I think the party has to take a hard look at itself,” Powell said in the interview, which was taped Wednesday. “There is nothing wrong with being conservative. {snip} But if the party wants to have a future in this country, it has to face some realities. In another 20 years, the majority in this country will be the minority.”
Powell, who crossed party lines and endorsed President-elect Barack Obama just weeks before the election, said the GOP must see what is in the “hearts and minds” of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters “and not just try to influence them by … the principles and dogma.”
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Zakaria’s full interview with Powell will air Sunday at 1 p.m. ET on CNN.
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Josh Kraushaar and Andy Barr, Politico, December 9, 2008
One week ago, most Republicans had never heard of Anh “Joseph” Cao. Those who were aware he was challenging Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) thought he had almost no chance of winning. Not a single Republican in the state’s congressional delegation donated to his campaign.
Today, however, three days after his improbable victory, Cao is the toast of the Republican Party, hailed as the future of the GOP by no less than House Minority Leader John A. Boehner of Ohio.
Cao’s stunning upset explains some of his sudden elevation from nobody to conquering hero, but not all of it. Because behind the tributes, his party has a more practical reason for embracing him so vigorously: Without Cao, the GOP is all but bereft of minority faces in Congress.
The 41-year-old immigration attorney and community activist, the first Vietnamese-American ever elected to Congress, will be the only Asian-American Republican in the 111th Congress and the only non-Hispanic minority in the House GOP.
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Boehner touted Cao as a symbol of the party’s future in a memo Sunday night.
In a release titled “The Future is Cao,” Boehner wrote that “the Cao victory is a symbol of what can be achieved when we think big, present a positive alternative and win the trust of the American people.”
For conservatives sensitive to the GOP’s lack of diversity, Cao’s win represents an opportunity to put a new face on a party trying to remake itself after a devastating election cycle, one marked by an exceptionally poor Republican performance among minority voters.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Monday that Cao’s election represented a victory for a different kind of GOP politics, a type of politics he has frequently predicted that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal may bring to the national stage if he were to run for president.
“I think the election of Cao is a major event in New Orleans,” Gingrich said. “You now have the first Vietnamese-American occupying a seat that nobody would have thought he could win. This is the opposite of red-vs.-blue, base-mobilization politics.”
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“It’s an important victory and shows that we are a party that reaches out to minorities as well,” said Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), who stood alongside Cao during his victory celebration in New Orleans.
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Under Ken Mehlman’s chairmanship of the RNC, the party spent time and money recruiting minority candidates but achieved little success. Michael Steele, an African-American who is now campaigning to become RNC chairman, lost a 2006 Senate race in Maryland despite getting support from the national party. Former Pittsburgh Steelers star Lynn Swann, also African-American, ran an ill-fated bid against Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat, the same year.
“What Cao represents is a new face, a new opportunity, a 21st-century look for the party,” said Steele. “The Republican Party’s strength comes in many forms and many hues. We have to understand now it’s not all white bread.”
Republican consultants also heralded Cao’s victory.
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With Cao’s victory, Louisiana has suddenly emerged as an unlikely base for successful minority Republican candidacies. As recently as 1991, former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke won the GOP nomination for governor and garnered over 39 percent of the vote. Now the state’s reform-minded governor, Jindal, is the first Indian-American chief executive in the country and is frequently touted as a possible presidential candidate in 2012.
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As for Colin Powell, let me suggest this:
I know what the Republicans can do to satisfy Gen. Powell’s whims. Nominate for President someone that is so moderate/liberal that his major accomplishments had Democrat co-sponsors, and someone who toyed with switching parties a few years ago.
Oh, I forgot, they did that in 2008. I’m sure he got Colon Bowel’s unqualified endorsement….er, no he didn’t.
The fact that Powell has it exactly backwards should come as no surprise to anyone. He, after all, is someone who abandoned the very party that lavished awards on him solely on the issue of race. Naturally, he has to rationalize it somehow. The GOP refused to recognize that the nation has already, in fact, become polarized, while the Democrats played on the fact skillfully.
the GOP must see what is in the “hearts and minds” of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters
I’ll help them out a little bit: It’s race, race and race.
“…..the GOP must see what is in the “hearts and minds” of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters “and not just try to influence them by… the principles and dogma.”
If a person doesn’t embrace a candidate or a particular party because of principles and tenants, then he’s a moron that’s looking for something for nothing. Whites are split exactly along lines delineating concepts that they agree with. For the most part, they’re not waiting for someone to try to figure out out just what they can offer them in order to get their vote.
It’s exactly because the GOP has been kissing non-whites in order to get their votes and promoting policies they think will please them, that they’ve alienated at least 6 or 7 million whites in the process of getting maybe a million non-white votes.
I’ve always suspected this affirmative action toy soldier to be a little on the dense side, and this proves it. Logic, as I’ve observed many, many times, is not a strong point of blacks.
“Had never heard of Anh “Joseph” Cao”
With 96% of blacks voting for Obama, I have come to the conclusion that nothing the GOP would have or could have done would have changed that. While the black candidate got over 40% of the white vote in New York State the black candidate got statistically 100% of the black vote while the white Presidential candidate got 0%. In Colin Powell’s case he could have voted for his fellow service man or fellow GOP candidate but instead chose to jump like a rat off of a burning ship to cling to a fellow blackman.
Colin Powell…and his type…are the reason why the GOP lose elections now.
This push to liberalism, to anti-American coddling of illegals, and the pandering to foreign alliances…is what is crippling the GOP.
The loss by John McCain is proof positive that any GOP camapaign that isnt run on conservative, pro-American priniciples…is sure to lose
Colin Powell has actually done conservatives a very great service in his remarks which unfortunately will probably go largely unremarked as our attention gets diverted to Rush Limbaugh.
For years I have been asserted that Tip O’Neill had it wrong, all politics is not local, in America, all politics is racial. Colin Powell has just confirmed that for us on two levels. First, and least important, his slip in admitting elsewhere that he voted for Obama at least in part because of his race confirms what many of us have been saying for some time, Obama was elected only because he was black and would not have been elected had he been white. Powell provides anecdotal evidence of the racism of the black vote in America. Second, and this is truly significant, Powell is decamping the party that gave him everything for the party which will be the majority party because of race.
Powell is obviously laying the predicate here for his subsequent announcement that he will become a Democrat. What is significant is why he thinks the Republicans are in electoral trouble for a long time to come-and he is right. As Powell moves from the “white” party to the party of mixed race, he does so knowing that it is safe to do so. The election of a mixed-race president has preceded by a few years the demographic reality. Powell is intelligent enough to know that there is not the slightest chance that Obama will actually close the borders and freeze illegal immigration. He knows Obama and the Democrats will enfranchise on a wholesale basis immigrants who, for the most part now, will be of color, that is, Brown. So we are going to become a nation of color and there is no political means available to stop the demographic tidal wave which is impending over our political destinies.
This is usually the time in which the writer is obligated to state that his objection is not to the color of the voter but to his policies. I hear no objection from Powell about the policies or politics of either Obama or the people who elected him. I hear an obeisance not to the principles which moved Afro-Americans and other of voters of color but to the voters themselves and that because of their color. This is the essence of racism.
Why must I as a writer on this forum perform obligatory ritual disclaimers of racism on my part when Colin Powell is telling everyone that these groups must be pandered to solely because of their color or their race? Explicitly he says that principles of the conservative/Republican party must be put aside to accommodate what is in the “hearts and minds” of people of color. Why? For no reason other than that they will be in the majority. Is it fair to assume that Colin Powell thinks that white racism is legitimate today because whites are still in the majority? What about what is in my heart and my mind as a white person will that count when I go into the minority?
So long as more than 50% of the electorate votes because they are people of color or because they are guilty because they are white, principles, any principles even liberal principles if they have any, are irrelevant. Color and demagoguery conquer all. In playing this race card the Democrats are flirting with the death of democracy certainly of constitutional government and the rule of law.
In America all politics is racial -and that is a truism owing no thanks to conservatives.
I think white conservatives know exactly what is in the minds and hearts of black people. The OJ Simpson trial, Rodney King, election of Obama, black on white crime, Jeremiah White, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, affirmative action, certainly reveal what is in the hearts and minds of blacks. The only solution is separation.
Several things are wrong with this. First, we have gone by the tipping point. There are too many people who depend on government checks to survive. The only way to attract their vote is to promise them more ‘free’ goodies. Is the Republican Party going to embrace the idea of anything you give away I can give away more ? Second, are minorities too stupid to grasp conservative ideas ? If the boat sinks, we all drown. What’s wrong with trying to convince the minorities that their economic fate is tied to the fate of this country ? Maybe some of you posters know the percentage of minority voters and Democrats who voted for Reagan. Third, how many Republicans stayed home on election day because they were fed up with the party in power spending like a drunken sailor and not enforcing the immigration laws. etc. Get back to your conservative roots while you still have a party.
They’ve got to start listening to minorities? When was the last time they listened to whites? Maybe 50 years ago. One wonders what kind of alternate universe people like Powell live in.
Powell has always been a left winger. None of what he said is surprising. He mocks as, “Principles and dogma”, the very foundations of our civilization. Unfortunately, so do many Republicans.
Asians, Hispanics, and Blacks do not have similar interests. Asians in total make up a very small percentage of the American population, and are made up of many quite different and separate groups. I don’t see them making a political difference. Some will be Republicans and some will be Democrats. In general, while they will use quotas and handouts to their advantage when possible, they are successful in America. I suspect most hold Blacks in disdain. Unlike many Hispanic groups, next generation Asians tend to assimilate into the general population.
Black politics is simple. They want quotas, handouts, and the freedom to commit crimes against Whites with impunity. The so-called talented tenth keeps the dysfunctional 90% on edge, convincing them that the mighty power of Whitey keeps them in squalor. The only defense against the ethereal “white priviledge” is government handouts, which the top tens pocket for themselves. Great scam, but hardly one to conducive to coalitions with any group other than their marxist masters.
The Democrats want another client slave group in the Spanish speaking mestizo invaders. Blacks and browns are competing with each other for the same resources, handouts, and criminal territory. The Democrat/Marxists are either too stupid to see this or smart enough to realize that eventually the two groups will come to them for mediation, and the fee for that will be an alliance against Whites.
Meanwhile the Republicans think if they just run an Asian or Black, people will like them. Forget about reneging on promises of smaller government, defended borders, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. They just need Bobby Jindal or some other ethnic minority to run for President.
“African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters and not just try to influence them by … the principles and dogma.
God forbid we should stand by principles. They are afterall fluid and we must accept alternative ways of doing things that are proven failures.
Powell is proving that blood is thicker than water.
Colin Powell, huh? The ultimate example of racial politics, lecturing ME about how I need to be more tolerant of minorities… That’s just priceless. Is there ANYONE in the US who sincerely believes his endorsement of Hussein wasn’t racist? I was in the military when this guy was Chairman, if I only knew then what I know now, I would likely have spent less time there. My eyes are wide open now.
If Republican naievely fall for these left-wing claims that being tooconservative and polarizing is what cost McCain the election, they will never win another Presidential election, and they will find local ones even harder to win. McCain lost the election because he wasn’t conservative, and because he didn’t play to the White Vote. I firmly believe that a very large percentage of potential McCain Voters either stayed home or voted for a third party candidate. That is why he lost the election. McCain’s problem is that he didn’t fire up anybody. I hated George Bush from day one, and I’ve long felt that the average Republican is border line mentally retarded, but would have voted for a Republican this year, if only they would have put someone even remotely decent on the ballot. I wanted to vote for McCain, I really did, but he made that impossible. His support of amnesty for illegals almost derailed any chance he had of my vote from the start, but Obama forced me to give McCain another chance. In the weeks approaching the election, I told myself that I would hold my nose and vote McCain/Palin, but then came the bailout. McCain unequivocally supported one of the most anti-capitalisticdecisions in American History. If this wasn’t enough, in the last few weeks of the election, McCain refused to play the race card. I had expected him to do that for some time, and was very shocked when it never happened. Despite what disgraced Powell and others have said, McCain didn’t play the race card. This decision, corporate welfare, and amnesty proved that McCain would always be a Neo-Con. He would never be any better than Obama, except in skin color, so why vote for him? At least Obama can rally true (i.e. White) Americans to action, although unintenionally. When casting my ballot this year, I couldn’t find a single solid reason to vote for McCain. I casted a write-in ballot for Jared Taylor.
The Republican party must stop “shouting at the world” and start listening to minority groups if it is to win elections in the 21st century, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday.
-We only have to ‘listen to minority groups’ if we decide NOT to break the ties that bind the union together as is our legal right and seperate into areas that believe the opposite of this carpetbagger Powell.
The Republicans are finished and good riddance, and I’m saying that as a former Reagan Republican. If they really want to survive, the first thing they need to do is get rid of all the neoconservatives who took over the party, but that isn’t going to happen for the simple reason that the neocons are in control and they’re not concerned with American interests, much less the interests of the GOP. Unless the Ron Paul faction and the Buchanan-style paleocons stage a revolution and take the party back to its basic principles, the Republicans are doomed and I, for one, won’t break into tears to see them go.
Multiculturalism, diversity and “big tent” appeals to blacks and Mexicans have nothing to do with this. The Republicans betrayed their own principles when they sold out to the neocons. It’s just that simple. The mind-boggling stupidity of trying to turn themselves into Democrats and build a coalition of minorities is obvious. It’s not going to happen, but even if it does, it’s just another form of party suicide. All they’ll end up doing is completely alienating their white base, but I guess they don’t call them the Stupid Party for nothing. Actually, after eight years of Bush and his neocon handlers, I’d call them the Evil & Stupid Party. If they best they can do is field candidates like Bush and McCain, they deserve to fail and they deserve it hard.
“The Republican party must stop “shouting at the world” and start listening to minority groups if it is to win elections in the 21st century, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday.”
Translation:
The Stupid Party must completely abandon what few principles it hasn’t already betrayed, sell out its base and increase its minority payoffs if it wants to keep a grip on the national offices that pay off so well for the hustlers who manage to con enough voters to squirm their way into power.
Most minorities, especially blacks and hispanics, will never vote Republican. The reason is simple. They see politics as a zero-sum game: whoever controls the levers of power can confiscate the wealth of those who don’t. Just take a look at Zimbabwe, Venezuela and South Africa. It’s a very simple system: get into power and take the loser’s wealth. This is blacks and hispanics (and many Chinese) conceive of politics — as legalized theft. And in their eyes, the Republicans are the rich Whites who have the money and property, and the Democrats are the modern-day Robin Hoods who’ll take that wealth and redistribute it to them, the poor brown folk.
Nonsense. The GOP needs to start listening to the white population: you know - 78% of the national electorate.
Powell has always been a worthless. Reagan pulled an Affirmative Action promotion out of a hat for him, then 2 other GOP administrations gave him a job, and then he turns around, and for purely racial reasons, stabs the party in the back. As for pandering for black votes, McCain did that, he also pandered for Mexican votes, didn’t work too well. What McCain lost was too many white votes who were sufficiently angry about loosing money that they voted for 0bama. Then there is the fact that a significant number of Republicans stayed home, some because they had become disheartened by the media telling them that the election was over and 0bama had won when a single ballot had not been cast, and some stayed home because they didn’t like McCain. The only thing that kept McCain from a McGovern or Mondale type drubbing was Sarah Palin. She rallied the base of the GOP, and actually got them to the polls. A big lesson can be learned by looking at the election results in TX. McCain won there by 13 percent, which is amazing since whites are now a minority in TX, but whites turned out in numbers far higher than their percentage of the population, and voted against 0bama, outdoing the larger than usual black and Mexican turnout. Even in CA whites who are a minority, turnout to vote in larger numbers than their share of the population. All McCain needed was an additional 5 percent or so of the white vote, and he’d be president, another 6 percent or so and he would not need a single solitary black or Mexican vote. The GOP needs to fish where the fish are, and forget about blacks and Mexicans, and they could win every election for the next 40 or 50 years. Unfortunately, the GOP isn’t smart enough to figure that one out.
What this misguided man doesn’t realize is that his views are shared by far fewer people than there are who believe just the opposite. It reveals how naive he is.
He’s not a far left guy, but he is a leftist for certain. In addition to those like him, there’s the far left, so-called secular progressives who are the politically correct crowd. It is both these types that are aligned against the Rush Limbaugh types and those who aren’t quite that far to the right, but are conservatives or independents just the same who are to the right nonetheless.
In fact these divisions are becoming so pronounced it appears as if the break up in this country is not only going to involve races, but will include those on the right and far left, so our great implosion will not just be a racial thing, it will be political also.
Glen Beck believes the situation has developed to such a crucial point that the scene today is 1860 all over again. He was on the O’Reilly Factor this evening and said exactly that, plus he said something to the effect that we could be in a more serious situation at the drop of a hat at any time. He said it at least twice.
You know, I think he just might have a valid point there. This could be 1860 all over again between the left and right, only this time it will have a racial factor as well.
Beck usually has an interesting thing or two to say always. Apparently he’s going to have a show on the Fox News Channel on the 19th of January, but I don’t know if it will be nightly or weekly.
Anyway, it should be interesting, because he can be controversial at times.
If it wrong for a white voter to vote for a white, why is not the same principle applied to Black voters who overwhelmingly voted for Black candidates?
“Powell Says the GOP Tried to Use ‘Polarization for Political Advantage.’”
That’s rich coming from the Democratic Party’s newest spokesman. Sorry Powell, but try being a Conservative, pro-white male in Democratic-run America and see how far you get. Why is Powell getting so much attention anyway? He’s just another liberal for whom race trumped everything else. You might as well interview every black who voted for Obama.
Another fav of the stupid white neo-con aracials shows he understands that what is important is his genes.
Remember, when these white aracials puffed this guy up as the just about greatest general in history? It was stupid, and anyone who knows anything about the military knows it.
He’s a affirmative action guy.
This is all more of the same pathetic pandering that came out of the Republican Governors Association’s annual conference held shortly after the GOP was taken to the cleaners in the recent election.
AmRen posters have covered this ground before, but it bears repeating:
If these neo-con Republicrats insist on catering to minorities, they’ll be alienating the productive conservative base faster than they can possibly attract new constituents.
And as the GOP progressively betrays its principles and splinters into racial and ideological fragments, the Obamacrat regime will grow faster than the national debt; as fast, in fact, as unchecked immigration will permit.
Beyond that…?
“Stop shouting at the world”? “Take a hard look at itself”? Just what does Powell mean with these noble-sounding words — noble sounding, and meaningless absent a context, which he didn’t provide. Powell seems to have fallen for the notion that people whose skin is darker than light tan will not vote for the Republican party, no matter what, so he’s started his preparations to jump the fence and become a Democrat. If in fact he means that the Republicans should adopt all the stands of the Democrats which have supposedly attracted all these dusky voters, then why do we need two parties anyway? Should they be the “Yes Party” and the “Of Course Party”?
Speaking as a centrist Democrat, I’ll say that liberal commentators have been pronouncing (hopefully) obituaries of the Republican Party for lo these many years — and, guess what folks? It’s still here.
If America becomes majority minority in 20 years, or ever, it will no longer be America. Whites have a decade, max, to rediscover identity politics.
A good ten or so years ago, I was at a local gunstore that I frequented. As usual political topics were being tossed about and Powell’s name came up. After a time, I had had enough and loudly denounced Powell as nothing but a phoney, a left-leaning moderate who was no friend to real Conservatisim(that was back when I still had some hope in conservatism as a movement), gunowners, etc. You could have heard a pin drop in that room. This bunch of self-professes “God, Guns, and Guts” flag-waving types were HORRIFIED! I had blasphemed! I may as well have spat upon a crucifix!
I wish I had that same room full of gents around me now to share this little article with. This shows why “conservatives’ generally speaking, are their own worst enemies and ultimately have no one to blame but themselves. It took me years to figure that unpleasant reality out, but it is true, painfully true.
So we need to win their hearts and minds?
Didn’t work too well for us in Viet Nam, did it? But this is like Amazing Grace…I was lost but now I’m found, I was blind but now I see…
I always thought the VietNam War was Free VS. Slave, Capitalism VS. Communism. But according to Mr. Powell, it was a race war. i.e. a white president VS all those brown people. That does make more sense. So all of our wars from here on out are race wars. And since we are outnumbered just about everywhere, it doesn’t look too good for ol’ whitey, now does it?
“GOP has to listen to non-white voters”..etc. said Colin Powell.
My Lord, the GOP has practically carried Colin Powell around on their backs his whole life. He got to where he got because of the GOP. I knew this clown was basically an unappreciative, affirmative action case. They always reveal themselves sooner or later.
Blacks have always had a penchant for rhetoric and long speeches. Vincent Sarich and Frank Miele’s book “The Reality of Human Differences” mentioned that even hundreds of years ago, arab sailors made the same observation when visiting Black Africa.
I guess not much has changed since then.
Colin Powell is an affirmative action general who the media drooled over and created a hero just as they did with Obama. The phony republicans needed a token and begged Powell to jump on the ship even though Colin never showed any republican or conservative leanings, in fact he revealed the opposite. Now as always, the hand that fed the beast has been bitten. When will we learn?
“What Cao represents is a new face, a new opportunity, a 21st-century look for the party,” said Steele. “The Republican Party’s strength comes in many forms and many hues. We have to understand now it’s not all white bread.”
This is simply a raicst, anti-white comment by the leader of the GOP. Imagine if he said something similar about blacks?
Why should any whites consider voting for this godforsaken party?
They simply went to swing states and gave standard boilerplate speeches.
Powell reflects the attitudes of a lot of liberals who seem to think any partisan attack on Obama represents some implicit attack on non-whites.
It is hard to tell if these words came from a black radical or a disenfranchised White woman. His sanity is indeed in question. I feel for the troops who had to follow this second-rate actor in global politics. Notice he had no real solutions, only vitriol for the Whites.
Colin Powell always was a gutless, mindless idiot that came up through the ranks on the coat tails of affirmative action. As for John Boehner, he isn’t much better than Powell. I have lost ALL faith in the two party system in this country. You want to see the future of BOTH parties? Just look at the Illinois governor. That, my friends, is the future of America. We are in HUGE trouble. It would seem that black is the new code word for excellence in this country. It is not, trust me. The United States that I was born in over 50 years ago has died. It’s replacement holds no future for white people.
Powell is a typical black male. He will abandon and so-called principles stab a white in the heart and smile about it all to defend his race.
Whites have got to come to the same principles if they want to survive. Race does matter.
Powell made our jobs easier. It is really quite simple, Powell is anti-white and here he is calling for racial submission by whites. Of course this is the accepted wisdom, the inevitable future, but so was Communism or American global hedgemony. A couple of simple questions asked of Powell and the inevitable future would be as passe as Disco.
I think the civil war proved to us that we cannot have a divided nation.
Race divides. Yet we each have reasons to be proud of our heritage. So we talk at the issue obliquely.
Powell — who bungled throughout the Iraq war — is bright enough to be cynical about politics, but not quite ready to see through the fog of assumptions that he brings with him.
I have a feeling if the Republicans instead proposed dividing up the USA by race, they’d have more supporters in every racial group.
Pandering to the reward of the individual — you’ll get more welfare, recognition or benefits this way — wins elections at first but can’t keep a party in power.
The Republicans need to take a stand on real issues, and real values, and point to the division overwhelming this country between the Silent Majority and those who oppose it: politicized have-nots and their pander-happy social elites.
COLIN POWELL WIND VANES FOR SALE
It’s like the old joke about people running away from an angry bear: you don’t have to be first, but you better not be last. Powell thinks the two parties should be racing to get ahead of the other in pandering to minorities, trying to top the other with increasingly absurd proposals.
The Whig Party fractured along pro-and anti-slavery lines
The idea that non-elite whites could be taken for granted, that they would go to the left indefinitely, just so they could “win” the next election.
This could be good however, as it would leave a wide void on the right, and even the center, that a true alternative third party could fill. False Conseratives would remain “Whigs”. Good riddance! Like it says in the Book of Revelation: “Because you are neither hot or cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth.”
Bloodless economic conservatism isn’t enough to maintain loyalty. Who can make anything of these economic theories that as often as not go awry in practice. Cultural conservatism is what makes people take a stand when their backs are against the wall. Back of the bus, Jim Crow laws, are what made blacks take a pose of wounded dignity. What will make non-elite whites angry?
I know a woman that works at a Rape Treatment Center. She says that usually one of the hardest things for a rape victim to feel is anger. She’s too filled with shame. It should be the victimizer that’s filled with shame; but for some inscrutable reason it’s the victim. One of the lesser acknowledged facts of human nature is that shame can easily be imposed on the powerless, even if they’re essentially innocent; while bad people can feel good about themselves as long as they can escape scrutiny, or meet with general approval, that is if they’re powerful and feel powerful.
That is why it is so difficult for most Whites to feel race pride without having a pavlovian feeling of shame. It’s a contradiction; pride goes with power; but like the rape victim, they feel shame, not because they are wrong, but because it seems like an incongruity that they should feel pride after being disfranchised from their dignity. How to escape from this bind?
Forget the elections! We need to take our country back!
I was going to post that yesterday. I know it sounds naive. I just listened to Alan Jackson’s “Where Were You” When the World Stopped Turning that September Day on a CMT tribute to him. I always tear up. Alan’s good people. He knows small town. He, like all of us, knows we’re in trouble.
My grandaddy cried when Kennedy was shot. Many older men cried at this when they’d never cried in their whole lives. Older gentlemen knew the costs, what was at stake, and what danger this country was in.
I guess we whites think we’re too outnumbered to make a difference. But in the smallest of numbers, we always make more of a difference than anyone else.
General Colin Powell epitomized the GOP’s neocon base’s ultimate affirmative action hire. Yet he affirms the contempt and mockery with which he holds them as he supported Obama because of his race and turned his back on a fellow warrior, McCain. There’s no appreciation, no thanks, no humility regardless of how modes it might be. Disreali is correct as he wrote in “Tancred”: “All is race; there is no other reality.”
President Clinton gave a speech back in the 90’s where he said it would be good if the country no longer had a white majority. As the white man goes, so goes America. Elininate the white man and the United States becomes a third world country.
Colin Powell is a celebrity non-white who is waging a vicious race war against the majority Native Born White population. It is no more complicated than this.
Fareed Zakaria is a post-1965 asian from a politically powerfull and wealthy Indian family. Since 1965, the elites of India have been sending their offspring of to colonize America. The Indian elites can not believe their good fortune that a majority of Nativity Born White Americans are so indifferent to their continued existence.
Don’t over-analyze this stuff. Colin Powell and Fareed Zakaria are the mortal enemy of Native Born White Americans.
Either Native Born White Americans organize around their legitmate racial interests or they will face complete racial dispossession withn the borders of the United States.
I’m sick and tired of whites being told we’re racist if we only associate/vote/do business with only whites, AND YET, blacks, hispanics, asians, etc are encouraged to be exclusive AND THEY have the gall to accuse us of being discriminatory
Colin Powell is someone who does not have a true racial identity. He is, in essence, an undesirable and a mogrel. Whites classify him as “Black”, yet he is unable to identify with the Black community. Of course he could never identify with the White community.
His artificial relevance in the world was afforded him by his superiors via affirmative action in both military and political circles.
Now, he has an ax to grind with Whites because he sees the truth each time he looks into a mirror and is consumed with self-loathing. He hates what he is and what he can never fully be.
I would not trade being White for all of the money in the world.
Colin Powell, like most career military men, strikes me as pretty much apolitical. Military people usually have mostly conservative values but don’t pay enough attention to politics to really know which major party is which. Nor do they have a conservative’s healthy distrust for government and usually cheer heavy-handed intervention. They’re used to a command and control world, not one of compromise and accommodation.
As a general, Powell appears to have been the recipient of at least some level of affirmative action, since his military career during the Vietnam era wasn’t particularly distinguished. But he seems to have been an effective and thoughtful general officer, who had the good sense to try and warn Bush off of his hare-brained Iraq adventure, which was perhaps the worst foreign policy disaster in American history. I shouldn’t really say was, because it continues to play out.
I wouldn’t agree with Powell’s political assessments on what the Republicans should do, though they’re clearly shared by a good many Republicans in the Congress. But I believe Powell’s a good and decent man who clearly believes in his recommendations.
Powell is not a conservative , never was .And I doubt seriously that Rice is . When push came to shove , Powell chose his brothers from the Hood and I don’t mean DC . None of this could have happened , 9-11 , the demise of the Republicans,electing of 3rd worlders as conservatives in Southern states ? Or the election of an unknown African-American socialist with a Muslim heritage to the Presidency … none of it could have ever happened without the Immigration Bill of 1965 . We were sold out , our nation , our children’s birthright usurped .
Whenever the Republicans lose an election every liberal tells the same story. Republicans need to include minorities.
When the Democrats lose an election the same liberal reporters don’t tell story of how the Democrats need to include white people. They tell the story of how hate, ignorance, racism, homophobia, and anti-Semitism won the election.
Our goal is to use the Republican Party to destroy multicultural America. We are not Republicans, we are Americans. We do not care who has the power if they are simply going to use the power to diversify America destroying her. Better the Democrats have the power then we can all agree on who the enemy is.
We do not want more Bush’s and McCain’s. They did not act on our behalf. The did not tell the American people that Multiculturalism is a code word for end America and end the white race.
While I am not an apologist for the GOP, I will say…
In my home state (that will remain nameless) there is already an organized plot to overthrow the neo-conservative grip at the state level and to attempt to extend this through new found influence nationally.
I know the GOP chairman personally (I am regularly offered jobs to work in their staff), know many politically influential attorneys in the capital, as well as staff close to our Repub governor, who all confirm this.
If we are going to do this people, we have to take back that party from a grassroots level. That means ron-paul style tactics on steroids. We need to begin infiltrating every level of the party, in particular state GOP commissions.
is this the same guy whose testimony about wmd’s in iraq persuaded to congress to go to war?
What was polarizing about the GOP’s campaign? Only that they dared to put up a candidate to run against the first black nominee. And even that was half-hearted - John McCain ran for President like a man who doesn’t really want to be President.
And Colin Powell voted for Barack Obama - why should Republicans ever listen to him again?
I only hope Powell put the nail in the coffin of the GOP’s quest to court minorities. The audacity of this man to make these comments is the final straw. It is always race and nothing but race for blacks. I think the Clintons and the GOP both found that out in this election. White and black alliances mean nothing to blacks. Blacks will always support their race over principles.
Were I to run for President (which I could never do, too much baggage), I would not pander to anyone, and that includes the “white voter” My appeal would be to… Americans. I would use that quote from Teddy Roosevelt about the hyphenated Americans.
My appeal would be to those who want America to work. To me, the skin color, religion, country of origin, or whom one chooses to be with with the bedroom door closes would be immaterial; I would never pander on any of those bases.
I’d appeal to those who want to be left alone . Who want their Constitution back, ALL of it. Those who want to see their tax dollars used for what is outlined in the Constitution, not to rescue badly-run companies with labor contracts they never should have signed, or banks that played fast and loose. It may surprise some folks, but folks from all walks of life, all “flavors”, all belief sets support the same things you do.
The question is this: how many AmRen readers’ votes would such a candidate actually GET.
nameless @ 12:54AM on 12/14
Sir, you’re going the wrong way here. There is no way we can hope to take back the “Republican party” or do anything else within this rotten system that exists in this country nowadays. Unortuneately, we must go the way of Thomas Jefferson’s dictum about revolution. We are certainly many years overdue for a revolution in this country.
Take care Sir and keep your powder dry.
Tom Iron…
“While I am not an apologist for the GOP, I will say…
In my home state (that will remain nameless) there is already an organized plot to overthrow the neo-conservative grip at the state level and to attempt to extend this through new found influence nationally.
I know the GOP chairman personally (I am regularly offered jobs to work in their staff), know many politically influential attorneys in the capital, as well as staff close to our Repub governor, who all confirm this.
If we are going to do this people, we have to take back that party from a grassroots level. That means ron-paul style tactics on steroids. We need to begin infiltrating every level of the party, in particular state GOP commissions.
Posted by nameless at 12:54 AM on December 14”
The republican party needs to realize that it’s not all about money.
This morning (Sunday, Dec. 14), John McCain appeared on George Stephanopoulos’ “This Week” program and said the GOP needs to reach out to the Hispanic and African-American communities.
During his campaign he addressed the Urban League and the NAACP while virtually ignoring Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s rabid racist “sermons.”
And where did it get him? In the hearts and minds of no one.
“start listening to minority groups”
But we do listen to minority groups. We listen to them call us racist. We listen to then tell us how we owe them. We listen to them tell us how they are victims.
Maybe that’s the problem, we listen to minority groups too much.
Listen to what Powell is really saying!
He is saying that the Republican Party should not base its policy on ideas and values. They should base it on racial identity.
This is exactly what the media calls “racist” when a white man says it. When a black man says it its OK.
Same problem in Canada.
The Conservative Party here (similar to US Republicans) is nothing but a traitor party pandering to all the minorities.
So we are left with three left wing socialist parties, the Liberal, New Democratic Party and the Conservatives.
All the foreigners and minorities vote for the liberals and new democrats.
The Conservative Party has turned off so many true conservatives, just like the Republicans in the US.
Most thinking people can see the writing on the wall, that we white people of European descent are doomed thanks to white women, whimpy white men, academics, church groups, homosexuals, brainwashed students and young adults, and the gullible wishy washy dreamers that think there is such a thing as true equality and that we can live in peace and harmony.
We are our own worst enemy, our own laws are used against us and our own people vote against themselves.
Looks to me like a sure recipee for extinction of a whole society, and unbelievably by their own acceptance.
Every day I wake up and wonder if there will be a revolt against the traitor politicians that continue with policies of destruction to the white race.
Powell’s suggestion will never work. Blacks, hispanics, and asians will vote themselves into a massive wealth transfer, white to non-white, in the coming years. This will be done via the Democratic Party. Everybody knows this, including Powell.
I always thought Powell was an idiot, but especially after hearing someone in the Bush adminstration say, in response to being asked by a reporter to fill in the blank in the sentence, “Colin Powell is a ‘blank’ Secretary of State, the administration official replied, “Yes he is.”
He was one of the least traveled SOS’s that we’ve ever had. He loves nothing more than to get up in front of an audience and croon like an old fool. He obviously burns with resentment at being the front guy for making the case for invading Iraq when he didn’t believe in it. His backing Obama doesn’t surprise me in the least. He’s so anti-Republican and anti-conservative that it’s a joke for him to continue claiming to be one. No conservative would spew the nonsense he’s been saying lately.
It was not as much an Obama win as it was a McCain LOSS. The utter stupidity of Republican party leaders in allowing McBumble to run for the presidency DOOMED the Republicans.
McBumble was widely seen as a stooge of G.W.B., perpetuating his failed policies and futile wars. Had the Repub leadership been smart enough to dropkick McCain, the election would very like had a differnt outcome. True, the Republicans did not LISTEN to the people. The fault being not “listening to minorities”, as suggested, but in not listening to the people intelligent enough to see Bush’s failures for the stupid bungles they were.
Remember when the vocal Democrats called Republicans racist, mean-spirited, homophobes? The repubs set out to prove the charges false and have been on the run ever since. If they’d had the moxie, the GOP would stand their ground or move even further to the right and be on top right now. And that especially includes Bush & McCain. The GOP should NEVER weaken its principals to attract minorities or anyone else for that matter.
Some call Gen. Powel an American “war hero”. I don’t. To be a war hero one must put his life at risk in order to safe the lives of others or to weaken the enemy. It is substantially more than commanding the troops form the safety of armory of shielded central command post.
Perhaps, he can be declared a demographic “war hero” on behalf of foreign-born minorities (for instance, Jamaican blacks) and their children who are in the process of invading, settling, and populating the U.S. against the clear will of the majority of the citizens. He has a record of contempt of American government (in particular, the president) whenever it would obstruct the progress this demographic war for the benefit of the invading minorities.
He may well be a Jamaica’s war hero for putting his career at risk in order to help his kin to get a better hold on America’s wealth, but that does not make him an American war hero. And his blatant betrayal of the party he ostensibly has been a sincere member of is quite incompatible with strong moral principles that we usually associate with heroes.
Yeah, my view of Colin Powel has totatlly changed. I used to think he was a real good guy. I knew he wasn’t a full out conservative but I believed him to be an honorable man. Stabs the party that brought him prominence in the back, wow.
As an aside, I think appealing to non-whites who share our values is an excellent strategy and I believe more would join with us to support the Constitution. But the big problem is the 24/7 propaganda. They’re taught in the schools that the white man is evil, that he’s out to get them. While I would like to live in 1950’s American (demographic wise) that’s just not going to happen. However, living in an America where non-whites don’t hate me, and who are patriotic and want to support the Constitution is definitely great. I was really touched by some of the conservative non-white folks who were getting into arguments with white liberals. Those non-whites who support America are my allies, those white liberals who want to dismantle America are not.
I am a white man who is for smaller government, an immediate end to affirmative action, stiffer jail penalties for criminals, and an end to illegal immigration. Many (but of course not all) blacks support the items I listed due in part to the extraordinary illegitimacy rate of black mothers and the high number of black men in the criminal justice system. These are mutually exclusive groups - the Republican party needs to decide which group it wants to represent.
Posted by 8:oclock Dec 14
You exposed the heart of the issue. Whites are afraid of being called racist for doing the exact same thing that blacks and post-1965 nonwhites have been doing for years:raced based politics.
The immgration reform movement thought that it would be very clever to deal with the racist charge by accepting the burden that immgration reformers must prove to the very people who have been engaging in raced-based politics for decades that White immgration reformers are not racist. As result, we now have the spectacle of Roy Beck and numbersusa.com whiting out Native Born White Americans over at Numbersusa.com. Immigration is bad because it harms the the post-1965 non-white immigrants and their gene-line. It is repulsive to read anything by Beck anymore or to hear him speak on Lou Dobbs.
To Peter Brimelow:I agree that there is something a little odd about Bo Sears views these days, ranting all the time about diversity. Another point:raced based politics extends beyond La Raza and other raced-based PAC groups. It is practiced on a daily basis and in full public view-and directed towards to Natie Born White Americans in the workplace and on college campuses through out America- by ordinary post-1965 non-whites. I have no doubt that you understand this point. But you failed to mention this obvious fact-for PC reasons- in your response to Bo Sears email.
If we must have a “conservative” Powell, I say let it be the late Enoch Powell. He was a true conservative in that he wanted to conserve the white race. General Colin Powell is nothing but a faux Republican, opportunist and Neocon liberal.
Why shouldn’t non-white voters listen with their hearts and minds to the Republican Party? Why aren’t they castigated for their racially motivated closed-mindedness?
It is interesting to read some of these posts. Some of you, all of sudden, just discovered that the Republican party is the mortal enemy of Native Born White Americans.What took you so long?
Then there the ones who want to form a political coalitin with asians and muslims ceause they are socially consrvative. In other words, the race replacement of Native Born White Americans is quite all right as long as the post-1965 non-whites are socially conservative. This is the conservative version of America, the idea nation. Asians can steal jobs from Native Born White Americas-for decades-and take over the California State University System as long as they subscribe to conservative principles. White Nationalist do not accept the racial dispossession and economic dispossession of Native Born White Americans at the hands of post-1965 consertvative non-whites. WE are rejectionist. WE recognize conservative post -1965 asian “Americans” and muslims “Americans” as our mortal enemies. They are here to reduce US to an ever dwindling racial minority within the borders of OUR America. Native Born White Americans are not interchangeable with millions of asians living in asia. If this ever happened America, would no longer exist. America is not an idea nation.
Invasions are to be repelled:Deport the illegals and encourage the asians and muslims to leave. This is central to White Nationalism. Either this happnes or Native Born White Americans will become an ever dwindling racial minority within the borders of America. And when this happens, Native Born White Americans will experience extreme persecution at the hands of post-1965 non-whites. Expect the worst to happen.
African-American, Hispanic and Asian.
Why is it always in that order?
But if the party wants to have a future in this country, it has to face some realities. In another 20 years, the majority in this country will be the minority.”
Powell, who crossed party lines and endorsed President-elect Barack Obama just weeks before the election, said the GOP must see what is in the “hearts and minds” of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters “and not just try to influence them by … the principles and dogma.”
Always the idea that racial change in America is inevitable. It is like telling a rape victim to not fight but just sit back and enjoy it. It is not inevitable however. If an administration with pro-White leanings were in power, it could quickly build a fence, track down the 20 million illegals, and stop all legal immigration also.
All commentators, left and right, with the exception of a very few, are urging the Republicans to “open up” to minorities. This means two culturally, economically and ideologically identical parties. It is time for a third party. It is getting harder to win 50% of the vote for Republicans. But it would be relatively easy for a Nationalist party to win a third of the vote, in every office all over the country.
Is this the way Powell thanks the party that promoted him to a position beyond his abilities?
