Flush With Money, Eager Chinese Students Flock to U.S.

This is so easy!! The truth is colleges and universities follow the money, lust for control and love the power that all the international funding gives them. Who do they really think they fool?

Foreign cultures represent something unique to go and see on vacation or read about in National Geographic. In that respect, they are properly juxtaposed against the authentic, natural backgrounds of the native countries. Conversely, the charm of a different culture is lost when it overtakes my country and votes against my views by more than a 9:1 ratio. The proper term for that is not “cultural enrichment”. The correct term is “conquered”.

JR

I’ve noticed Chinese students no longer stay in this country after studies as consistently as they once did. Obviously the Chinese economy is growing so we can expect the return rate to perhaps even reach Japanese and Korean levels (almost everybody going home). We have a trade deficit to balance and this is one way.

As long as they are 1) Paying high international fees 2) returning at a good rate this is a good trend.

“In China you can seldom find people from the U.S., but in the U.S. you find people from all over the world,” Xiaoli s[Xiaoli Liu, an Ohio State freshman from Beijing] aid.
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Well of course, the Chinese like all asians and muslims know that “multiculturalism” is a loser for any society. They also know that a lot of Americans are greedy and stupid and are willing to sell themselves and their country out for a few bucks in their pockets. Plus, they can now use their citizens here as a way to gain influence and agitate for favorable treatment for their governments and in the case of muslims for their religion.

Gee! More Americans disappearing. Maybe they’ve been taken to the mothership. We’ve learned from our elected officials that we have no American low-skilled workers, therefore we need illegal aliens. We have no skilled tech workers so the H-1B visas need to be increased. Now, we learn we have no young people who want those hard to get college seats, so we must entice the Chinese here. This is the greatest disappearing act since Houdini!

White males have only themselves to blame.

They have also failed to control their women.

Birth control through oral contraceptives and abortion on demand have contributed to the failure of white males to reproduce.

White males are only interested in professional sports, drinking beer, gambling and other mostly non productive endeavors.

The latest generation of white males is lazy and content to push paper as in sales.

There are no white leaders and not much of a following even if there were a leader. Look at Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc etc as examples of white leaders.

Prince Charles just turned 60 years of age. I suspect as he ages, so will age the last generation of whites and then there will be nothing.

I suppose there are no qualms about the many American students who are denied a college education because of the crowding-out effect of foreign students. And how does the college admissions department fairly evaluate the transcripts from a nation where cheating is the national pastime? Obviously they cannot, and our American students who are honest will wind up being rejected in favor of the unethical hordes from China who now have money to burn.

I have known a number of Chinese who grew up in mainland China and they really add nothing to one’s cultural knowledge. They are boring people and surprise, surprise, most have little or no objection to the communist dictatorship in China. The only reason they came to the United States was because the standard of living was higher here. So how does conversing with these willing slaves add to one’s educational experience on campus??? What a joke.

Quite a little scam the Chinese are running. We educate their population and then they return home to help their country compete against us economically.

It is a distinct possibility the U.S. will have to fight the Chinese, over Taiwan, control of the Pacific or the Chinese wish to be the world’s only superpower. Training young Chinese means training possible future enemies. Of course this is either never considered or dismissed as a concern by universities that are now largely anti-American anyway.

Great. We are simply educating possible future enemies. We may well have to fight the Chinese over Taiwan, control of the Pacific or China’s wish to be the world’s only super power. The Chinese are expanding their military by leaps and bounds. This is common knowledge. Giving young Chinese an education that may well be used against us is insane. But greed trumps all in American colleges that are lagrely anti-American anyway.

Justifier is correct; by increasing the number of foreign students colleges are in a win-win situation. They take the checks that the Chinese, Saudis, Koreans, Indians, Japanese, etc., write out for their students. Since foreign students are considered non-residentsof the state in which the college is located, the tuition bill is higher. Also, foreign students are ineligible for financial assistance from the colleges. That’s more money in the college coffers. Then colleges can turn around and ask for tuition increases across the board. Always under some pretext of needing to stay competitive by paying their faculty enough to stay at the school. Or, they may claim it’s for needed “research” facilities. Or to upgrade the athletic program.

While on the subject of colleges and tuition, I would think that a student who takes college courses online would pay lower tuition costs, since they’re not taking up space in a lecture hall, or a bed in a dorm room. But, if it were that simple, every student would be clamoring to take their courses online. Can somebody tell me if a student enrolled in a university and taking online classes pays more, less or the same as an in-house student?

It would be easier for all concerned to just give each foreign Chinese student a Top Secret clearance once he enters this country. Since he will steal our secrets, and we will let him steal our secrets, think of all the money we will save.

Remember, in the good ol’ USA, its all about the money.

“It gives them a study abroad experience right here on campus.”

He’s got that right; more and more all Americans are living in a foreign country. Pro-system types think of this as being on a sort of permanent vacation, when a more correct comparison would be permanent exile from one’s homeland.

See the above article “China Arms Sales Scientist Guilty.”

Instead of the Chinese having to steal our technology, we are going to teach them the basic research that the technology is based on. That way they can go home and develop it without our knowledge.

“They also know that a lot of Americans are greedy and stupid and are willing to sell themselves and their country out for a few bucks in their pockets.”
Posted by RHG at 8:02 PM on November 18

I might add it is also a way for guilt ridden White liberals to prove they are not racist by bringing non-European in to this country.

I understand that China has a great many more men than women due to government fertility programs. Those young lads are going to be angry.

Marxism/feminism are a socialist omen.

These Red Chinese and Saudis students will use everything they learn against this country and the universities know this. This comes under “providing aid and comfort” to our enemies and as such makes them guilty of treason…

“I’ve noticed Chinese students no longer stay in this country after studies as consistently as they once did.”

I see this as well. While some Chinese students stay, many now return to China. Not all stay for economic reasons, some geniunely dislike Communist dictatorship. I would say that it is the African students who stay almost without exception.

So call me a cynic… but HOW MANY of these ‘students’ are also Chinese spies, trained and groomed to ferret out and steal as much techology and knowledge from us as they can steal?

I remember a couple of years back, a poster styling himself as John Liu, making the absurd claim the West (mostly England) PLUNDERED China of so much wealth in the 18th and 19th centuries. Whether that claim is true or not is a moot point. When considering how much technology, defense and trade secrets HAVE BEEN STOLEN FROM THE WEST BY CHINA SINCE WWII. Or the mega-tons of money China saves by STEALING technology and knowledge from us.

I go to university with these people. I’ve never felt “thrilled” by them, and neither have any of my friends, none of whom are as “racist” as me. There are surely a handful of kooky self-hating whites who think barely comprehensible foreign students are “essential” to the “educational experience,” but they just as surely outweighed by those like me who experience it as one long exercise in frustration.

I wonder if all that is happening in America isn’t just “what goes around, comes around” the Native Americans gave away their land for trinkets and beads and now WE are doing the very same thing. Our government openly steals our tax dollar to use for whatever reason they please, minorities tell us what to do in our own country, pirates steal our ships and the ships of our allies and we say Our Own Laws won’t allow us to defend ourselves, come on now (men) pull up your panties and become men again.

“We’re thrilled about the cultural benefits…”

I have to agree with the 8:55 a.m. commenter in saying: what cultural benefits? Chinese students do tend to apply themselves very well, studying constantly in a way that would shame many or most white students, but it ends there. They are there to learn and leave. They could not care less about spreading their “culture” and would probably laugh at the idea. No … it’s all about the financial benefits for the college.

What this article fails to mention is how many of those Chinese students are Ph.d’s who pay virtually nothing for their education, and in many cases deprive a native of a spot. There’s also the unmentioned problem of international students who leave without paying their tuition or actually receiving their degrees. I once had a conversation with a woman who worked in the Bursar’s office of a major research institution. She told me that you’ll never hear it, but the University was owed hundreds of thousands that it had no hope of ever collecting from foreign students who simply left without paying what they owed. I have no way of corroborating what she told me, and it would be very difficult to find out because most Colleges and University’s would be too embarrassed to let the information out.

“I wonder if all that is happening in America isn’t just “what goes around, comes around” the Native Americans gave away their land for trinkets and beads and now WE are doing the very same thing. “

One of the anti immigration European parties has a great campaign poster. It shows some American Indians looking unhappy. The caption is “They allowed immigration and look what happened to them.”

“Also, foreign students are ineligible for financial assistance from the colleges.” Soprano Fan

This is not completely true Soprano Fan. Many of the foreign students get university assistance as teaching assistants, or non federal “work study.” It’s no secret that universities operate academic sweatshops by using underpaid foreign students to teach classes. Unfortunately, some of these students have difficulty with English. I don’t believe I’ve ever met an African student who either wasn’t employed by the university in some capacity or getting student aid from some American source. In fact, a higher percentage of foreign students work at the university than American students.

College education is a renewable export. By educating these students, we aren’t really giving anything away, and by the time they return home, they’ll have accidentally learned quite a lot about Mexicans and blacks.

Being associated with more than one university, something I see is that Chinese place more emphasis on education and less on partying. Americans are throwing away their birthright because they refuse to compete in the modern world. Asians fill in the vacuum.

“Quite a little scam the Chinese are running. We educate their population and then they return home to help their country compete against us economically.”
Posted by RHG at 10:51 PM on November 18

Does this mean you would rather have them stay here? If you’re like many of the other posters, then I expect your answer to be an emphatic NO.

This characterization of the Chinese as all being spies with malicious intent is difficult to believe. The sheer amount of intelligence, cunning and co-ordination necessary to pull it off on such a large scale would be truly incredible. If they do in fact have it, then they have been underestimated. And to make it even worse, there’s no reason to believe that all their spies are Chinese or even Asian.

What’s the motive? If we step back for a moment and assume that it isn’t the intrinsic nature of every non-white race to be against whites, then other possibilities become obvious. We have crossed the line first on the issue of TAIWAN…it is part of the Chinese homeland, however America protects it and complicates China’s option of forced re-unification with the island through military means.

Now China actively seeks economic and technological parity with the United States and is moving with the great haste to make it so. Our actions contribute directly to China’s reason for armament.

The powers that be would have us believe that the Chinese are one of America’s real enemies when in fact it is NOT the case - it is just to distract us from the truly sinister entities within the USA right now…in the government, big business, media etc.

This is so easy!! The truth is colleges and universities follow the money, lust for control and love the power that all the international funding gives them. Who do they really think they fool?

Does anyone really believe that colleges are learning institutions?? in truth they are BUSINESSES just like GM, FREDDIE MAC, U.S. Congress!! and others. Like others (and U.S. Congress and Senate) they don’t care where the money comes from, just so it keeps coming.

I see this as well. While some Chinese students stay, many now return to China. Not all stay for economic reasons, some geniunely dislike Communist dictatorship. I would say that it is the African students who stay almost without exception.

And Arab muslim girls from Saudi and Kuwait, they have to be kidnapped by their families to get them back to those countries.

These Red Chinese and Saudis students will use everything they learn against this country and the universities know this. This comes under “providing aid and comfort” to our enemies and as such makes them guilty of treason…

Posted by at 7:40 AM on November 19

Why is’nt the CIA recuiting some of these students before they return to their home countries and become part of the local elite, great way to prevent a future conflict and the removal of US power from that part of the world.

My experience with Chinese students is totally neutral.They are not interesting people. They think poverty is funny; they aren’t Christian in the least. A hungry person is “not lucky” and not worthy of a moment’s thought. The euphoric reaction of the University official is quite typical. More foreign students = more tution, bigger bonus, etc. The lack of hypocrisy about materialistic concerns is probably in the long run beneficial as it will gradually loose the hold of liberalism on the white fools who espouse it even as they lose the majority - and their future - as it happens.

I wonder if all that is happening in America isn’t just “what goes around, comes around” the Native Americans gave away their land for trinkets and beads and now WE are doing the very same thing. Our government openly steals our tax dollar to use for whatever reason they please, minorities tell us what to do in our own country, pirates steal our ships and the ships of our allies and we say Our Own Laws won’t allow us to defend ourselves, come on now (men) pull up your panties and become men again

Amen brother, it is time.

I’ve been saying it all along. The asian scientist, doctors, and engineers in this country, are a much greater threat to us whites than any black, hispanic or foreign terrorist.

“White males have only themselves to blame.”

“They have also failed to control their women.”

White men are not supposed to “control” white women. Give me a break!!!!!

“We’re thrilled about the cultural benefits, the educational benefits it brings to our resident studen”

this guy should give us an example of cultural benefits we can learn from chinese student. Chinese people are very proud,patriotic, self centered and xenophobic. how many of them open up themself and teach or share some thing with outsiders?

To Sardonicus:

Thanks for the clarification, when you mentioned the foreign students often have jobs as TA’s. When I was in college, I took a chemistry class where the TA was a Chinese student studying for his doctorate in chemistry. I was referring to things like Pell grants, Fulbright scholarships and the G.I. Bill. To my knowledge, foreign students are not eligible for these.

To Veritas:

Your post about universities being owed money by foreign students surprised me. I always thought the foreign government paid the tuition up front, for foreign students. I had no idea..
That also explains the hefty tuition increases the colleges enact every year. They are owed thousands, if not millions of dollars, and so, they just pass it on in the form of tuition increases Like an earlier post of mine stated, colleges are in a win-win situation.

I would say that it is the African students who stay almost without exception.

Posted by Sardonicus at 7:49 AM on November 19

You are correct. At least the Chinese have the decency to leave once their studies are up. That should be a law. American students are turned away because the classroooms are filled to capacity with international students. In my city the African immigrants have hijacked the civil service.

What’s offensive to me is the rate that universities allow Chinese students into their graduate programs. Most first-rate PhD programs in the natural sciences and engineering have about a 5-10% admission rate, yet most of the students are Chinese (while fully qualified Americans are being turned down). For the most part, graduate education is free, since they are paid for by teaching assistantships. (Never mind that for the most part, their English is terrible, at least in my experience.)

I think that this fact needs to be better publicized, especially in response to articles that say, “Oh, we need more foreign graduate students, because there aren’t enough Americans that are interested.”

First of all, it is part of Chinese culture to learn and grow in any situation. It is a common maxim that “if three people were to walk by, surely there is something (I) can learn from one of them”.

Secondly, the Chinese understand gratitude, especially ‘respect to teachers’, etc. They also know how to repay kindness for kindness, and so on (“he who drinks from the fountain, never forgets the source”).

Thirdly, any immigrant, Chinese or otherwise, wants to earn their keep. There is an overwhelming desire to contribute in some way in order to survive. This is for the betterment to all, as you can so obviously see. Please rationalize and recognize this. Please stop thinking it is a zero-sum game, whereby ‘someone loses and someone wins’. In a broad and sensible economy, new and wonderful things happen all the time without wrestling over bones.

Furthermore, America is a land of opportunity which not only openly welcomes, but celebrates diversity - western, or non-western. There are plenty of first rate educational institutions such that no one is truly denied a seat. There will always be another better opportunity in another institution due to ‘consumer choice and freedom’, and people ‘voting with (their) feet’.

In Asian society, it is strictly meritocratic, such that many are left outside the door due to the lack of paper qualifications. The best institutions only accept the ‘cream of the crop’; however unfair, inhuman and unjustifiable this definition is. It is quite evident that in the ‘land of freedom’, it is not the case.

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