US Lawmakers Want Mandela off Terror List
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Reuters, June 19, 2008
Some U.S. lawmakers are trying to pass legislation to remove former South African President Nelson Mandela from a U.S. list of terrorists by his 90th birthday next month, officials said on Thursday.
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Lawmakers in April introduced legislation in Congress to remove Mandela from the list, a step that is normally a government administrative matter, because they were frustrated by the time the process was taking.
The State Department has said it and the Justice Department fully support the bill, which passed the U.S. House of Representatives on May 8 and is awaiting Senate approval.
“We have been able to clarify and resolve certain questions that were hanging in the minds of some people as to whether to support the process or not,” Nhlapo [Welile Nhlapo, South African Ambassador to the United States] said without elaborating.
“We are trying ourselves to talk to some of these people, clarify what else they may have on their mind . . . so that we can get this over,” he added.
The former South African president and some in the now-ruling African National Congress are still blacklisted under U.S. laws and need special permission to enter the United States more than a decade after the apartheid struggle ended.
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The ANC was banned by South Africa’s white rulers in 1960, its leaders jailed or forced into exile until the ban on the movement was lifted 30 years later.
Strict security measures passed by Congress after the September 11, 2001 attacks against the United States kept the ANC’s “terrorist” label because it used armed force as part of its campaign against apartheid.
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Rep. Donald Payne, a New Jersey Democrat, told the Africa Society late on Wednesday that removing organizations from the terrorist list was an administrative matter that had taken too long, adding: “We’re trying to make sure that he is not a terrorist when we celebrate his 90th birthday.”
Mandela was jailed for 27 years for his struggle against apartheid, and has become a worldwide symbol of freedom. He was hailed for overseeing the peaceful transition from white to black rule as South Africa’s first post-apartheid era president.
(Posted on June 25, 2008)
Comments
just show them pictures of all the farm murders that have taken place in south africa since 1994 under anc rule. thats terrorism at its best.
Posted by danjack at 7:34 PM on June 25
I, Michael Christopher Scott, born April 12, 1966 in Columbus, Ohio am on the US Terrorist Watch List for something I said, while Nelson Mandela helped perpetrate a train station bombing that killed innocent men, women and children.
If my own government wants Mandela off, while keeping me on, then I will be proud to remain on the Terrorist Watch List for the rest of my life.
I only hope that one day a different group of people will be running the US, and I hope their have their own lists of enemies.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 8:04 PM on June 25
Looks like Affirmitave Action to me.
Posted by Lost in Paradise at 8:07 PM on June 25
Mandela is a terrorist. Keep him on the list.
Posted by flyingtiger at 10:19 PM on June 25
“lawmakers are trying to pass legislation to remove former South African President Nelson Mandela from a U.S. list of terrorists by his 90th birthday next month”
From one humorous story to the next. Was the writer going for humor at the end of the first sentence there?
Posted by at 10:28 PM on June 25
Yeah, well since what he terrorized no longer stands up for itself as a target for terrorism why bother. South Africa was a great loss for civilization. I would have loved to live there. Is Australia or New Zealand next?
Posted by Ken in fishkill, NY at 11:37 PM on June 25
I see how this works very clearly. In the initial stages of any attempt to overthrow a legitimate government by overt violence those involved are “terrorists” BUT!!! if the overthrow is successful, those selfsame terrorists become the quickly recognized government and the U.S. is usually the first to kiss ass on the “Emerging Nation” SA and Zim are classic examples of the U.S. government’s betrayal.
Posted by Skip at 1:01 AM on June 26
” Gerrymander Payne “( he represents (?) my hometown that is losing its American identity since ” ethnic and racial cleansing ” has weakened its Euro-culture badly “. I fled racially Marxist N.J. 6 years ago.
Posted by Michigan Patriot at 1:42 AM on June 26
He was not imprisoned for his struggle against apartheid, but for bombings that killed many people, he should still be in prison, and certainly on the terrorist list.
Posted by abc at 5:26 AM on June 26
Mandella’s heritage will be remembered for generations as the man whom brought tribalizm back to S. Africa and returned the country to the stone age once again. Once all the whites have left the country will be just another African sewer. Sorta funny how that works. Whites come in and make things work, Raise the quality of life for all, blacks run whites out, country takes a giant leap backwards. And the blacks can’t seem to put the puzzle together.
Posted by at 8:13 AM on June 26
Because of his criminal activity for which he was justly jailed, I think Mandella should be sent back to prison, because many, many people were murdered at his direction or because of the policies he invoked during his reign of terror, when South Africa was under seige by his marauding murderers.
He was lucky to have gotten off so lightly. If he were white, he would have been executed.
Posted by Ranger at 11:43 AM on June 26
1. “Mandela was jailed for 27 years for his struggle against apartheid.” No, when Mandela was caught he had in his possession a large amount of explosives that were intended to kill White South Africans. Thus, he was imprisoned, thus he is a true terrorist.
2. Mandela is celebrating his 90th birthday, in LONDON! Why not in the beautiful country of the rainbow, South Africa? Because it is so dangerous none of the celebrities want to go there, not even Mandela. He’d rather be in London where everyone can fawn over him, instead of the failed experiment of SA, where the journalists would be killed, ruining his storyline.
Posted by Victor Gerhard at 1:49 PM on June 26
I am sure Mandella, at 90, having spent many years in prison, is probably close to senile, but do you think he is proud of the new South Africa? For if he is, he definately needs to stay on the list.
Posted by Kellie at 2:00 PM on June 26
Mandela is a terrorist and supporter of terror and despotic regimes (he gave Gaddafi an award in 1997). Ros Wynne-Jones (future inmate of a British prison) twists herself into knots today in the UK’s Daily Mirror trying to explain why Mandela cannot criticise his murdering friend, Mugabe - it’s desperate stuff:
Under Mandela’s leadership, countless blacks were horrifically murdered (and tortured in neighbouring countries) for not being members of the ANC.
And for those who have never seen it, here’s the great terrorist himself singing about killing whites:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKiePbTcAfY&feature=related
Posted by Eugene at 2:22 PM on June 26
I can’t wait for the movie version to come out.
Say, I have an idea: Since Oprah idolizes Nelson M., perhaps she could be tapped to play the spousal unit—Winnie Mandela.
Posted by at 8:32 PM on June 26
“Mandela is celebrating his 90th birthday, in LONDON! Why not in the beautiful country of the rainbow, South Africa? Because it is so dangerous none of the celebrities want to go there, not even Mandela.”
This is such typical socialist hypcrisy. Once S.African white socialists turned SA over to black rule, the country went to hell and became unliveable, so the well-to-do white socialists fled leaving white SAs to fend for themselves. It’s no different then here in the US where white elites demand integration, flee to their cozy white burbs when things become a mess and leave the rest of america to deal with it.
Posted by at 10:28 PM on June 26