Hunting Season for Whites
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Kyle Bristow, Spartan Spectator, June 6, 2008
Between the night of May 31 and the wee hours of the morning of June 1, 2008, between 20 and 30 black teenagers formed a mob to terrorize the citizens of Mount Clemens, Michigan. These hoodlums robbed people of cell phones and wallets, threw a brick through the window of a moving car, and beat up their victims so badly that at least one of their targets was hospitalized with a fractured skull. In an article in the Macomb Daily entitled “Mob, Carnival Attacks May Be Linked” (6/5/2008), the mother of one of the victims told police that “her son was on the ground trying to fend off the attackers who were ‘about ready to kick his head in’ when deputies arrived.”
The horror of what transpired was articulated in another article in the Macomb Daily entitled “Mob of Young Men Attacks” (6/2/2008). According to that article, “[W]orkers at the gas station [where one of the beatings by the mob occurred] said the man was confronted near a pay telephone. When the gas station attendant saw what was happening, he locked the front door.” As the man pounded on the door to beg the gas station attendant to let him in so that he could get away from the thugs, the mob arrived. The article in the Macomb Daily goes on to say that “An employee [of the gas station] said workers had to wash the man’s blood from the door Sunday.”
The victim who suffered worst was not the one who was attacked at the gas station. According to a press release posted on the website of the Macomb County Sheriff’s Office:
[W]hen a 29-year old man, and his wife, were driving on North River Road … more than two dozen men wearing ball caps and baggy shorts spread out across the street and blocked traffic. The victim tried to drive past them and someone threw a brick in his window. He stopped his car and got out to see what happened and was beaten unconscious and left with a fractured skull.
In an article in the Macomb Daily entitled “Violence Shocks Community” (6/3/2008), the newspaper reports that “In a 911 cellular phone call released to the media Monday, the beaten man’s frantic wife is heard screaming repeatedly as a dispatcher unsuccessfully tries to get information from her.”
Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel said in an interview with WJR radio host Frank Beckmann on June 6, 2008, that when the wife of the victim called 911, “You could hear the sheer terror in her voice.”
The incidents were so bad that, according to one of the articles in the Macomb Daily:
[S]ome law enforcers … liken the violence by the group to ‘wilding.’ The term became known to law enforcement following the April 1989 New York City rape and beating—involving as many as 50 teenagers—that left a 28-year-old female jogger near death. Those involved in ‘wilding’ travel in packs, assaulting and terrorizing their victims randomly.
Though the police have arrested a very small fraction of the thugs who terrorized Mount Clemens, many remain on the loose. According to an article in the Detroit Free Press entitled “Mob Beat Up Driver, Police Say,” one of the victims who suffered a black eye requested not to be identified by name in the article, because “most of the mob is still at-large [and he’s] afraid they’ll attack again.”
In every single article about the mob incident in which 20 to 30 black teenagers terrorized Mount Clemens, the journalists of the Macomb Daily, Detroit Free Press, and Detroit News neglected to mention the race of the perpetrators of this horrific crime spree. In every single video and picture of the perpetrators that the Macomb County Sheriff’s Office released on their website, the thugs are unsurprisingly all black.
In the aforementioned interview with Sheriff Mark Hackel, Frank Beckmann asked:
Sheriff, all the kids in the video I saw are African-American. All of your victims are white. Is there evidence that this was somehow [attacks based on race]?
Hackel responded with “It’s a question that we are asking… . If it’s a hate crime and it happens to be a white person and the other people involved are African-Americans, we look at those things.”
When Beckmann inquired as to whether or not there is a “law to charge them with some kind of hate crime,” Hackel answered, “Well, that’s questionable. I don’t know if it applies to an unprotected class, and I don’t know if whites are part of that. I’m not sure.”
Beckmann was shocked to hear Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law. A taken aback Beckmann asked:
You mentioned ‘unprotected class.’ You mean white people are not protected by hate crime legislation?
Hackel answered that question by saying, “It doesn’t appear as such at this point and time that there is something that would qualify.”
Even though a horde of black thugs beat to the point of unconsciousness one innocent white man who was reported to have a fractured skull, threw a brick at a car that was driven by an innocent white woman, and beat up an innocent white man at a gas station to the point where employees had to clean up the bloody mess the following day, it is unlikely that the thugs will be charged with committing hate crimes, because the criminals were black and the victims were white. Because of this simple fact, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton did not seemingly arrive in Mount Clemens the very next day after the altercation to protest “racism,” and there is no “Million Man March” scheduled to protest the black-on-white crimes that occurred. If a mob of whites were to do to innocent black victims what the black mob did to innocent white victims, the American people would not hear the end of it. What happened in Jena, Louisiana, would seem insignificant, and not because Jena was insignificant, but through comparison, people would view Jena as being child’s play compared to the modern-day lynch mob that terrorized the small town in southeastern Michigan.
It is important to note that though Hackel suggested that state and federal law does not protect white folk like it does for “protected classes,” he still has vowed to hunt down and bring to justice the thugs who targeted innocent whites who did not provoke the crimes meted out to them. In interviews with the media, Hackel has described the attacks as “savage,” and has said that “Not even animals act like this.”
The Macomb County Sheriff Office is working diligently to hunt down the people who took part in the horde of black thugs. Within less than a week of the attacks by the mob, charges have already been filed against 16-year-old Jemall Davidson, 17-year-old Johnny Allor, and 18-year-old Steven Lincoln. The first two face life in prison on charges of assault with intent to murder and a 10-year felony charge of engaging in a riot, and the last one faces 10 years in prison for engaging in a riot and assault.
(Posted on June 10, 2008)
Comments
Just an ‘isolated incident’ by over-exuberant Black teens. Does ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE these people should have the right to live near White human beings? They belong back in Africa with their kinfolk — where they can engage in atrocities to their hearts’ content!!!
Posted by Fed Up at 5:31 PM on June 10
Anyone driving in an area near a Black neighbord UNARMED is a damned fool. Blacks being what they are. Carry a gun. Be prepared and ready to use it if you feel your life is at risk. You can always claim they were all over your car; you tried to escape leaving them the car, but were attacked regardless. Certainly believable enough, given this scenario.
GET A GUN. LEARN TO USE IT SAFELY. CARRY IT AT ALL TIMES! Better to have it and NEVER need it, than the other way around!!!
Posted by Fed Up at 5:44 PM on June 10
Hey, where was the reporting on this story? The MSM was AWOL again.
Posted by PBL at 5:44 PM on June 10
As Mr. Taylor has asked so many times, “what will it take to wake people up?” As it stands, the only media outlets to report such incidents accurately are branded “racist”. Why are they branded “racist”? Because they report such incidents accurately.
Posted by jewamongyou at 5:45 PM on June 10
Thank God for the second amendment.
Posted by hugo at 5:45 PM on June 10
“charges have already been filed against 16-year-old Jemall Davidson, 17-year-old Johnny Allor, and 18-year-old Steven Lincoln. The first two face life in prison on charges of assault with intent to murder and a 10-year felony charge of engaging in a riot, and the last one faces 10 years in prison for engaging in a riot and assault.”
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Posted by at 5:48 PM on June 10
“Beckmann was shocked to hear Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law. A taken aback Beckmann asked:
You mentioned ‘unprotected class.’ You mean white people are not protected by hate crime legislation?
Hackel answered that question by saying, “It doesn’t appear as such at this point and time that there is something that would qualify.””
It continues to “shock” me that white folks don’t KNOW their own status in these “United” States? The more these incidents occur, the more I smile. It actually takes a beating to wake up some whites. As for the fool that tried to go around the line of thugs, if it was me I would have driven right thru them. The more I mowed down during my escape, the better I would feel and I’d be saving the taxpayers money at the same time. A twofer so to speak. Unlike many whites, I am anxious for the next civil war. Really anxious… so bring it on!!!
Posted by at 5:50 PM on June 10
So what can we do as white people to fight these animals?
POST YOUR IDEAS…HERE ARE SOME…PAS THE WORD AROUND…
1) Do not buy or patronize anything black…music, cd’s, dvd’s, movies, concerts, products, sports…
2)print the above article and distribute in clandestine manner
at libraries, public toilets, schools, universities, streets, subways, busses,..let us do what the MSM cannot do for us.
3)in fact find every article and photos of similar incidents and distribute similarly
Posted by at 6:01 PM on June 10
If you live in MI, get a CCW if you can. I can’t see any other solution.
Posted by at 6:04 PM on June 10
This happens all the time in the very liberal community where I was raised. Many people in my circle have been attacked by groups. There was even one incident where someone, yes, you can imagine the details, gave chase to a pair of pregnant women I know, in broad daylight, before the scene was interrupted by the arrival of a trusted male acquaintance, who gave chase. Hearing this goes on in other parts of the country, however, is enlightening, and makes me realize that I need to rethink my views on guns. Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?
Posted by Guilty Liberal at 6:06 PM on June 10
This pretty much says it all:
“[Radio Host] Beckmann was shocked to hear [Sheriff] Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law. A taken aback Beckmann asked…”
Welcome to the wonderful world of Liberalism and the “changes” they have in store for America. An Obama-nation.
For the Video of one of these assaults by the large group of “Young Men” (as the PC media calls them), where you can also hear what the white woman under attack had to say to the police dispatcher when she called 911 for assistance, go here:
For further reading on this case see:
‘When Race is & ISN’T Reported: Black Mob Beats White Pedestrians in “Wilding”
By Debbie Schlussel
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/06/when_race_is_is.html
Posted by Risorgimento II at 6:07 PM on June 10
If this would have happened in my neighborhood, it would have been, black mob meet AK47, AK47 meet black mob.
Posted by Alex at 6:31 PM on June 10
I always thought that you could,t make a law for one person that doesn,t apply to another person. Equal protection under the law? White people really need a group of lawyers working for them, but i guess 4th class citizens have few rights.
Posted by at 6:35 PM on June 10
Of course they are not going to be charged with a hate crime! He is hemming and hawing about that but since whites are not a protected class then we are basically screwed. Someone ought to file a lawsuit stating that this is not equal protection under the law to have protected classes and hate crimes legislation.
Posted by Spartan24 at 6:46 PM on June 10
Just wait till somebody calls their Dads… Oh! (Hand slap to forehead)
Posted by at 7:01 PM on June 10
How did I miss this on the evening news?
The sheriff is an idiot.
Posted by Frank at 7:15 PM on June 10
Just another skirmish in World War III….the race war that is being waged right now in every westernized country of the world and has been for nearly 2 decades. Unlike prior world wars, the race war is a “dirty war”. A war where most of the combatants are irregulars that don’t even recognize what they are a part of. Significant resources are expended simply to deny that a state of war exists. The result is ridiculous.
For example, over a third of black males in the US go to prison and over half commit a serious felony over their lifetimes. Think about the implications of that. That means the majority of a population within our borders has regular runins with a type of armed militia we pay in order to keep us safe. Yet, we treat this as multiple isolated incidents…..crime. But, this isn’t crime. And these people are not acting as individuals who maintain an identity as being “of us”. They are a hostile enemy that rejects any identification with us. If the cops were disbanded tomorrow, they would immediately go on a rampage…AS A GROUP. In many areas, they concentrate their numbers sufficiently so as to challenge the police for control of the area. In other countries, the situation is far worse. God forbid you live someplace like France. Many areas are no longer under French control. Those who do control those areas, kill whites on sight.
The real problem here is that a significant portion of our populations will not stand up to the enemy. We call the worst of these people, liberals. The worst of the worst know what is going on and actively aid and abet the enemy, especially through propaganda. However, most are simply in denial.
This is important information both for surviving and winning the race war. Surviving means you should live far away from concentrations of the enemy but also live near to people who are intolerant of the enemy. In many places in the US, an event like this would spark reprisals. Which is why incidents like this don’t happen there. These whites are not sufficiently galvanized to take action with regard to minor incidents but certainly will and do kill blacks and other minorities stupid enough to try and attack them, during the commission of “crimes”. Roughly a million times a year, a firearm is used successfully to stop a “crime”. Often that results in the death of the aggressor. To survive the race war, you need to live near people of a mind to do this. Most do not look at it as engaging in warfare. Not today. But soon, I think. But that’s irrelevant. What is important is that they carry guns. And the local authorities aggressively go after “criminals” and recognize and respect your right to protect yourself. Courts and private citizens tend to shrug off charges of “racism”. That’s where you want to live and raise your family. Ideally, you want to have a circle of friends who understand what is going on. And you want to own lots of guns.
Winning the race war though, requires something else. It requires that those who are racially unaware, wake the hell up.
There is only one way to successfully do that. They must become victims in the race war. They must be raped, robbed, murdered or beaten. Or a loved one must have this happen to them.
How does that happen? By leaving them behind in areas like Michigan. Racially aware whites must move away and leave racially unaware whites to their fate at the hands of blacks, hispanics, muslims and others. We must not stay and protect them.
The title of this article is “Hunting Season for Whites” but how it really should read is “Hunting Season for Liberals”. Because, who do you think are the victims here? Racially aware rednecks? White nationalists? Conservatives? Guess again. All the victims are liberals. All the victims had a hand in allowing a situation to develop that resulted in their own victimization. Every last one would have spit on you and called you a racist for raising the possibility that this could happen to them and explaining how and why.
It is important, not only to protect yourself and your family from the consequences of this stupidity, but that the ones causing the problem be forced to experience those consequences. Their bubble must be burst, if whites are to take any meaningful action.
Posted by at 7:19 PM on June 10
In the old days, such an attack by blacks directed specifically at Whites would have resulted in thousands of enraged White men marching in a mob to the nearest black neighborhood and committing fearsome mayhem. Now, having totally lost our nerve as a race, we simply scurry to find a corner to hide in. And our law enforcement officers don’t seem very eager to do much to protect us. It’s obvious that we need to learn how to protest ourselves again, as our grandsires did.
Posted by Wayne Engle at 7:26 PM on June 10
“Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?”
Sure- don’t fire until you see the Whites of their eyes.
Posted by ready, aim. at 7:27 PM on June 10
It may sound sadistic but I’m glad these whites receive beatings by blacks. The blacks from their behavior remove the saintly cover placed on them by the popular media and the establishment and expose themselves, revealing their cruel innate nature.
Ernie
Posted by at 7:40 PM on June 10
What happened here is not only horrific but only goes further to show the level of depravity among such “people”. A full charge of assualt with a deadly weapon among many other charges should be brought upon them. As for the “protected class”. I hope an pray that I am never “entitled” for such a foolish notion. No race should ever be put under such government propaganda. I do not need the government to protect me with such a label. If the constitution was followed there would never be such a mess. Such as the full right to openly carry so as to defend yourself. If more people knew you had the ability to defend yourself, this may never happen.
Posted by Mark at 7:52 PM on June 10
boycott anything black right now…
SPORTS, MOVIES WITH BLACKS, TV SHOWS WITH BLACKS, BLACK MUSICIANS, ETC
Posted by at 7:52 PM on June 10
Wherever blacks are, It’s open season on whites! They are raised to absolutely despise white people and victimize them at every opportunity. Remember the riots in Los Angeles in 1992? Blacks targeted whites exclusively. It’s their genes coming out; Michigan in 2008, Los Angeles in 1992, Africa in the early 20th century.
George Manuelian
Atherton, CA
Posted by George Manuelian at 7:53 PM on June 10
Yet more black on white crime that can only be found on amren.
Posted by at 7:53 PM on June 10
Guilty Liberal wrote: Hearing this goes on in other parts of the country, however, is enlightening, and makes me realize that I need to rethink my views on guns. Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?
Use your local phone book and/or Google to find gun ranges & gun shops in your area. (Our local shop also has a range!) If your state has a CCW law, the owners will certainly know when & where the necessary classes are held. I took a class in April and am wrapping up the paperwork to get my permit.
Posted by Strider at 7:56 PM on June 10
Here’s the Michigan statute on hate crime legislation. (Ethnic intimidation.) If it doesn’t include whites, I’m not reading it correctly. That so called law inforcement officer better wise up or face a civil suit.
Section 750.147b
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THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 328 of 1931
750.147b Ethnic intimidation.
Sec. 147b.
(1) A person is guilty of ethnic intimidation if that person maliciously, and with specific intent to intimidate or harass another person because of that person’s race, color, religion, gender, or national origin, does any of the following:
(a) Causes physical contact with another person.
(b) Damages, destroys, or defaces any real or personal property of another person.
(c) Threatens, by word or act, to do an act described in subdivision (a) or (b), if there is reasonable cause to believe that an act described in subdivision (a) or (b) will occur.
(2) Ethnic intimidation is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.
(3) Regardless of the existence or outcome of any criminal prosecution, a person who suffers injury to his or her person or damage to his or her property as a result of ethnic intimidation may bring a civil cause of action against the person who commits the offense to secure an injunction, actual damages, including damages for emotional distress, or other appropriate relief. A plaintiff who prevails in a civil action brought pursuant to this section may recover both of the following:
(a) Damages in the amount of 3 times the actual damages described in this subsection or $2,000.00, whichever is greater.
(b) Reasonable attorney fees and costs.
Posted by at 7:58 PM on June 10
Hey, at least Sheriff Hackel was being honest about not knowing whether the law of “hate crimes” applies to an “unprotected class”. As usuall the newspapers are an abomination on these stories and one could argue that they are responsible for these crimes in their utter intransigence in not reporting the TRUTH.
Posted by Bobby at 8:00 PM on June 10
“Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?”
First off, guns are not some magical item that will protect you from attack. As I said here on another comment thread, avoiding being a victim of black crime is the first step. Be aware of where you are and who is around you. The best thing is to avoid a situation in which you could be confronted by violent blacks. Like I said, I know gas is expensive, but my life is worth $4.00 a gallon. The cab ride costs $35, but a hospital bill or God forbid, a funeral, costs much more. Check your routes to work, the store, your mass transit routes and conveyances(buses or tarins. etc…) if you use it, etc…As this article clearly shows, the authorities are useless except to file a report and give an interview. See LA and Cincinatti for further examples of this.
The NRA has courses that are just about everywhere. I don’t think they cost much either. If you are a female, they even have courses tailored for you. There are also private instructors as well, I’d check their credentials. And at the end of the day, pick a pistol that you can carry comfortably and shoot well. A .44 Magnum is a proven, deadly pistol round. Unfortunately, I can’t hit the side of a barn with one and I can’t carry it comfortably. It does me no good in the gun cabinet when I’m out and about. There is a reason why undercover cops and CCW holders carry 9mm, ,38, .380 and .32. They are effective rounds that can be carried easily by most. I firmly believe that for around $1,000 almost anyone can be trained and equipped to defend themselves with a reliable pistol and the knowledge of how to carry it and use it with confidence and understanding. My life is worth at least $1,000.
If I can leave everyone with one last piece of advice: Many whites have been pulled out of their cars at lights and Stop signs by black mobs. Again, think LA, Cincinnati and South Africa. If there is one thing you can do it is to leave plenty of space between your car and the car in front of yours if there is anyone ahead of you, at least one car length. This way you can pull around other vehicles without being blocked in and drive away. Don’t worry about damage to your car or hitting anyone. I have a really nice car too, but I’d rather have it in the shop than me in the morgue. Doing this has saved the lives of people around the world from criminals, carjackers and assassins. They train bodyguards to do this because it is an effective way to aid in escape. Do this at all times so it becomes a habit. We have to become aware as whites now more than ever. Sorry to be so lengthy, but our survival and those we love is at stake. Nobody is looking for a confrontation, most of all me, but what are the options? Everyone use their heads and stay safe.
Posted by at 8:04 PM on June 10
Wait untl Obama is elected - it will only get worse. Here in NYC one already senses the vibe, the fist pumps, the entitlement. It’s going to be one long, hot Summer with media pushing Sixties revival Obamafication and things growing more tense.
As for the hate crimes, we should not push to be included as a “protected class,” but in stead should work to abolish the concept of hate crimes and protected classes altogether. They are a Constitutional abomination.
Posted by An Ally in NYC at 8:12 PM on June 10
Second point:
“According to that article, ‘[W]orkers at the gas station [where one of the beatings by the mob occurred] said the man was confronted near a pay telephone. When the gas station attendant saw what was happening, he locked the front door.’ As the man pounded on the door to beg the gas station attendant to let him in so that he could get away from the thugs, the mob arrived.”
So just what was the ethnicity or race of that attendant?
Chances are, that coward was of Arab/Muslim extraction. In the Metro Detroit area, that is almost a given at gas stations and liquor stores. So I would like to ask, did this suspected member of the “religion of peace” even bother to phone the police to stop the attack? If not, is he going to be charged as an accomplice to or adding and abetting in this crime?
Probably not, but it is a good question I believe.
Also third, is this excerpt:
“The victim tried to drive past them and someone threw a brick in his window. He stopped his car and got out to see what happened and was beaten unconscious and left with a fractured skull.”
The victim’s real mistake, was stopping the car when that brick was thrown. This man should have stomped down on his gas pedal and played bowling for the wilding “sun people.” In the words of Comrade Hack himself, these black “young men” were so mindlessly brutal that “not even animals act like this.” They seem more like deranged and rabid animals in my book, thus this would have been not only a wise, but also much needed response.
Posted by John PM at 8:15 PM on June 10
Too bad the driver of the car didn’t gun the engine and take some of them out.
Wake up white people!
Posted by at 8:16 PM on June 10
This is a continuation of the Federal and State Government sanctioned WHITE GENOCIDE. This is happening in many STATES and the police are told to look the other way when it happens just like they look the other way with illegal aliens.
What are WHITES going to do to protect our neighborhoods? Don’t look to the police for protection, they have been told to do nothing.
Posted by the Soviet Republic of New Jersey at 8:25 PM on June 10
Too bad the “fair and balanced” captive media is aiding and abetting these racial attacks against the clueless white public by warping the real nature of this ‘low level’ anti-white race war. Is Mt. Clemens now an African “American” hunting ground without warning signs?
Posted by Loo at 8:27 PM on June 10
White Americans, being from Russia, I am shocked, by your indecision,endless whining, cowardice to protect your families and the land that your fathers gave you. Unite and, AT LEAST — AT LEAST, step forward in a million white patriots march on Washington.
Shame on you!!!!!!
Posted by alex at 8:30 PM on June 10
Write your congressman, the FBI needs to crack down on the black mob phenomenon, prevalent in every city and school in America
Posted by Virgil Tibbs at 8:31 PM on June 10
It’s open season on whites. Blacks (and other non-whites) have a free pass to rape, rob, and kill at will.
They know:
1) The whites in the local community won’t fight back.
2) The unwhites who run “our” media and “our” government will ignore the crimes, or at least minimize them, and go on to chasing down polygamists, racist celebrities, and white drug-addicted party whores.
3) Even if whites do decide to fight back in any way, THEY will be ones accused of racism.
There’s a new sheriff in town, folks. Would you like to meet him? Say hello to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Fig_LoBy4
Street criminals are just a slightly more degenerate version of “civil rights” race hustlers.
*Unwhites: Whites who don’t think of themselves as white. Especially as it pertains to making rational and or intelligent decisions about racial matters.
Posted by Mean Gene at 8:32 PM on June 10
“Beckmann was shocked to hear Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law.”
Where has he been for the last five decades?
Posted by Cassiodorus at 8:34 PM on June 10
HIGHLY IMPORTANT - - PLEASE ALL READ!
This is the first time I’ve seen the designation “protected group” used anywhere outside the Social Security Administration. It’s of the highest importance that white people realize what this means.
At Social Security black employees were given an organization to represent them before management. White employees were denied the same right on the grounds that they were not a “targeted” group. The Washington Times did a front page story on this matter in 1996 and an official Social Security spokesman was quoted on the front page of the Times as saying that only “protected groups” were entitled to certain rights and whites were NOT PROTECTED. Only blacks, Hispanics, women and the handicapped were considered protected groups.
Because of that front page story, I was fired from my job at Social Security. But because of Civil Service protection I was granted a hearing before being dismissed. The Administrative Law Judge at the hearing told me IN WRITING that I was not allowed to appeal my dismissal on the grounds of racial discimination because I was not a member of a “protected group” and only members of those groups could complain about racial discrimination or use it as a defense against dismissal.
White civilization is undergoing a second French Revolution, only this time the aristocracy is the white race and the people replacing them are blacks.
Posted by Frank Keliher at 8:39 PM on June 10
Lock n load people.
War has been declared and you are not safe.
Posted by at 8:44 PM on June 10
If Obama is elected, watch for this behaviour to become commonplace.
Posted by Cliff Yablonski at 8:44 PM on June 10
We will see much more of this if the Obamanation reaches the “White” House.
At some point during this century, the white race will either have to organize itself as a race, or submit to destruction.
Posted by Shrewsbury at 8:53 PM on June 10
If this would have happened in my neighborhood, it would have been, black mob meet AK47, AK47 meet black mob.
Posted by Alex at 6:31 PM on June 10
In a certain respect that would be great. However it would be spun as crazy, racist, gun totin white supremacist cold bloodedly kills young Afro males, some of whom were honor students after they only got a little rambunctious.
Posted by S & GS at 8:53 PM on June 10
Blacks act just like dogs when they form packs. It is the only time when they attack. Whites should carry firearms more often. I dont know why more of us dont.
Posted by Peejay in Frisco at 8:55 PM on June 10
If this would have happened in my neighborhood, it would have been, black mob meet AK47, AK47 meet black mob.
Posted by Alex at 6:31 PM on June 10
All the TV stations after demonizing you would pull away for continuing coverage of the Emmett Till horror.
Posted by S & GS at 9:00 PM on June 10
“more than two dozen men wearing ball caps and baggy shorts spread out across the street and blocked traffic.”
- Note to guilty, wimpy liberal whites: If this happens to you, all you have to do to solve the problem is step on the gas pedal and keep driving. The street will soon get unblocked one way or another.
Posted by Run Them Down at 9:06 PM on June 10
Guilty Lib, my buddy took an NRA firearms training course and did a lot of research into his handgun purchase. So, I’d google that.
The article ends with “not even animals act like this”. No, just blacks.
Posted by at 9:17 PM on June 10
The white race needs to arm itself to the teeth and be well trained in using those arms. This kind of behavior is only the tip of the iceberg. When whites become a minority in this country it will become commonplace for these attacks to occur, and occur they will. They are already increasing in frequency and viciousness as our government and all the other elitists traitors abandon us to the fate they have envisioned for us. Any man who can’t defend himself or his family is no man in my opinion. There are only two choices left for the white race: victory or extermination.
Posted by at 9:32 PM on June 10
Dear fellow Fourth Class Citizens (after Blacks, Hispanics and Others):
If this doesn’t prove the hate inside these people, what does? Notice it was a black woman (shown in the video) who doesn’t open the door to the beaten white man at the gas station door.
What is going to happen to this country when whites are a tiny minority? Do you think the U.S. will be a First World country? And why doesn’t our government care about us?!!
Posted by at 9:32 PM on June 10
He’ll be like OJ Simpson looking for the killers, looking on every golf course in a 100 mile radius for the thugs.
Posted by Sonny at 9:35 PM on June 10
I have a feeling that many more white Americans are going to experience the joys of multiculturism as the year progresses.
Posted by at 9:37 PM on June 10
Seems to me that the more Obama’s star rises, the more demanding, aggressive and violent blacks become… As if it hasn’t been rough enough these past 45 years, things are only going to get worse…
Posted by Jackers at 9:41 PM on June 10
I always thought that you could,t make a law for one person that doesn,t apply to another person. Equal protection under the law? White people really need a group of lawyers working for them, but i guess 4th class citizens have few rights.
Heh, you’re right of course about equal protection. But, see, you began your comment with the words, “I always thought,” which probably has a lot to do with a) why you knew this basic tenet of Constitutional law (one twisted by liberals to protect alien invaders) and b) why you probably aren’t suited for law enforcement duty in the Nu Amerikwa.
What will prove flabbergasting is if this glorified rentacop’s stupidity isn’t the cause of a successful lawsuit against his employers. He’s practically guaranteed that these “youths” will have hate crimes tacked on to their charges, if only so said employers can C.Y.A.
Posted by Svigor at 9:42 PM on June 10
This should be forced on the national media by bloggers.
Every minority, every liberal pc commentator, every white fool or agitator and every lawyer who says whites are not a “protected class” should be charged with racism and anti-white hate , speech , reporting or legal action it is still anti-white.
Now stop and do this - sue for violation of your civil rights, including life, liberty and freedom to work so that the government and the news media and the other sides lawyer can and must be held responsible financially when a case is won. Most of the pc groups which use legal teams to attack whites get their huge funds from settlements for violations of civil rights by states and large companies. Whites can do the same. Sue over AA and set asides.
If for any reason whites are not to be treated fairly and the same as others who have had their civil rights violated then the country is going to collapse.
Many blacks and Hispanics are already on juries and refuse to convict anyone of their race charged with crimes against other races. The reasoning of one black woman as to why a black teenager should not be convicted of murdering a white in a store robbery was stated by her to the judge as : “Too many of our black boys are already in prison so we don’t need to send another one.” The crime was on film and a guilty plea was entered.
Posted by Oldman at 9:47 PM on June 10
“Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?”
Yes. NRA.org and gunowners.org are good places to start your road to becoming an official gun-owning “Menace to Society” according to the news media. There is no substitute for a good assault rifle and handgun at your disposal for dealing with ‘wildings.’ Remember, even the United States military sanctions to possesion of ONE full-automatic AK-47 and ONE handgun per household in Iraq. In Chicago, due to the power of the Africa-American voters, Chicagoans may possess NEITHER.
Posted by at 10:00 PM on June 10
“Any suggestions on how to get started learning to handle a firearm.” Watch Kirk Douglas in The Heros of Telemark. “You pull this HERE and the bullets come out THERE!” Actually two basic rules. Treat every gun as if it is loaded all the time. And never point a loaded gun at anything you don`t intend to kill.
Go to the gun shows. Learn what you like and what you need. Guns are like cars I guess. They all work a little differently but pretty much the same. P.S. You can and must learn. My own sainted mother smashed my squirt guns against the water heater. But by age 22 I was field stripping Broomhandle Mausers on a copy of Betty and Veronica #7.
Posted by Tim Mc Hugh at 10:11 PM on June 10
Twice in my life I was driving legally on a public road when I was confronted by small groups of marauding blacks and both times I escaped because it was only three blacks each time and I sped up and honked my horn as soon as they stepped into the road and started waving their hands for me to stop. But if it had been a large group as in the story above I might have been hurt or killed. One of the incidents happened at about 4AM while I was driving in Darby, PA, the other time was on September 11, 2001 at about 7 PM as I was traveling into Newark to get the only train that was running at the time into Manhattan so as to meet my niece who, as a visitor, had escaped the World Trade Center attack that morning and wanted to get out of NYC pronto but needed extra hands. The look of sheer hatred in the eyes of the apparently drunk and stoned black men who jumped into the street to try to stop me told me to speed up and keep moving, and I was fully prepared to run them over if necessary, but they jumped out of the way when they saw I wasn’t going to stop. Needless to say, I was lucky I didn’t get killed by these African-Unamericans, who seemed to be treating the 9-11 attack as a signal to party!!! It’s not the color of their skin it’s the hatred in their hearts that is the problem, and we all need to be wary in the extreme because incidents such as what happened in Macomb County are commonplace in the United States today. Kudos to Amren for exposing the truth about black crime!
Posted by John Dougherty at 10:20 PM on June 10
This is the apogee of Black Life. There is no greater ex-
perience for a Black male than this-to be part of a hunting pack
that maims and kills Whites. I would love to send them to Bantu
Valhalla.
Posted by Freyr at 10:24 PM on June 10
And to think that Obambi has even been elected yet.
“Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner?”
This site has a lot of good books that teach a variety of subjects, some of which do not involve firearms for those living behind enemy lines. Also, I can personally vouch for the quality of instruction at Front Sight Firearms Training Institute, a world class venue for hands-on, no-experience-required, real life training.
Charlie
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 10:47 PM on June 10
oops, i guess the mainstream media forgot to cover this story
Posted by tnecvolfan2001 at 11:04 PM on June 10
It’s open season on whites. Blacks and other non-whites have a free pass to rape, rob, and kill at will.
Blacks know that the unwhites who run “our” media will ignore these crimes in favor of some celebrity spectacle or witch-hunt. They know that the unwhites who run “our” government don’t care as long as it doesn’t cut into corporate profits. Blacks know that the white people they’re attacking is not going to fight back. And, most of all, they know if whites do decide to do something, THEY will be ones accused of racism, not the blacks.
*Unwhites: Whites who don’t think of themselves as white; especially as it pertains to making rational and or intelligent decisions about racial issues.
Posted by Mean Gene at 11:11 PM on June 10
This is becoming more common. They get courage in groups, and block the street, and then attack anyone who stops. Back up and turn around, or run em over. They run when the squad cars come, but are all big and bad till then.
As for gun training in the peoples republic of IL, I can vouch for these guys.
http://www.gsldefensetraining.com/
Posted by at 11:34 PM on June 10
this is a good thing, and will occur more and more between now and november, then maybe the unwhites will start to think and vote white. the whole driving force behind this madness, is that one time many years ago, there was slavery in this country, and our liberals, educators, and blacks want revenge. it is revenge driven only, its not about fairness. look at south africa and zimbabwa and you will see whats coming to the u.s.a. you must understand that every year in this country, the colleges, and universities are churning out thousands and thousands of brainwashed little anti-white indoctrinated young people. a good move as far as im concerned would be to put pressure on state prosecutors to serve notice on any university within their state that is teaching anti-white racism is a criminal offense, and to actively prosecute any university president that allows it at their universities. google noel ignatiev w.e. dubois school of harvard. you will see what i mean. any university that has a black studies dept. is teaching white hatred.
Posted by danjack at 12:11 AM on June 11
Needed: A new Sam Francis, a new true patriot. Now more than ever.
Posted by Seek at 12:45 AM on June 11
I would like to point out one thing involved with the possible use of a fire arm to kill an asailant and no witnesses are around. If you use an automatic pistol, BEFORE LOADING THE CLIPS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE WIPED EACH ROUND CLEAN OF FINGERPRINTS in a hasty escape you may not be able to police the brass, and I know of at least 1 man doing time because the expended case had a clear thumb print on it, that was the ONLY piece of convicting evidence. I have several automatics with high cap mags and intend to buy more but keep the caliber common as it will be easy to acquire in the decline. Go buy an M-4 before they are taken off the market too, 5.56mm is very common. Learn fire dicipline, don’t empty a clip randomly. If you fire 15 rounds, hit or kill 15 people and throw another clip in. If things come to what we expect them to, be prepared and learn to shoot and if you shoot, shoot to kill. Just my opinion though you understand.
Posted by Skip at 1:17 AM on June 11
“What happened in Jena, Louisiana, would seem insignificant, and not because Jena was insignificant, but through comparison, people would view Jena as being child’s play compared to the modern-day lynch mob that terrorized the small town in southeastern Michigan.”
Oh, Jena was “significant” alright. But not for the reasons this man thinks. It was significant because it proved you could mobilize rage, rake in large donations, and get wide-spread media coverage and public sympathy, all for perpetrating a Hoax!
Posted by Johnny B Gone at 1:52 AM on June 11
Please contact the local officials of this Michagan town and express your strong opposition to the cowardly local public officials who allow these attacks to go on in their municipality. It is their fault for letting this happen.
Call the officials first, be firm but polite, express your deep disgust that mobs of low life criminals have made Mount Clemens MI such a bad place to live.
Follow up with links to this newstory.
City Clerk
Lynne Kennedy
586-469-6818 ext. 3
586-469-7603
lkennedy@cityofmountclemens.com
City Commissioners
586-469-6818 ext. 7
Fax: 586-469-6273
Karan Bates-Gasior
kgasior@cityofmountclemens.com
Gerry Cottrell
gcottrell@cityofmountclemens.com
Matt Dreger
mdreger@cityofmountclemens.com
Ronald Campbell
rcampbell@cityofmountclemens.com
Lois Hill
lhill@cityofmountclemens.com
Jack Johns
jjohns@cityofmountclemens.com
City Manager’s Office
Douglas C. Anderson
586-469-6818 ext. 7
danderson@cityofmountclemens.com
Community Development
586-469-6818 ext. 2
Fax: 586-469-7695
Dial-a-Ride
Tammy Murphy
97 Eldredge
Mount Clemens, MI 48043
586-469-7433 (586-469-RIDE)
Fax: 586-469-7716
Finance Department
Marilyn Dluge
586-469-6818 ext.301
Fax: 586-469-7603
mdluge@cityofmountclemens.com
Fire Department
Ann Wyszczelski
2 Dickinson
Mount Clemens, MI 48043
586-469-6840
586-469-6971
awyszczelski@cityofmountclemens.com
Human Resources Department
Barbara A. Hergenroeder
586-469-6818 ext. 5
Fax: 586-469-6273
bhergenroeder@cityofmountclemens.com
Mayor’s Office
Barb Dempsey
586-469-6818 ext. 7
Fax: 586-469-6273
bdempsey@cityofmountclemens.com
Parking Code Enforcement
95 Eldredge
Mount Clemens, MI 48043
586-469-6818 ext. 909
Fax: 586-469-5363
jwood@cityofmountclemens.com
Public Housing
Earl Rickman
50 Church Street
Mount Clemens, MI 48043
586-468-1434
Fax: 586-468-6282
Public Services Department (DPS)
95 Eldredge
Mount Clemens, MI 48043
586-469-6847
Fax: 586-469-5363
jwood@cityofmountclemens.com
Posted by JR at 2:56 AM on June 11
The only real justice is the kind you take in your own hands. Every white person must do what they have to in order to protect themselves and their loved ones against those who would threaten their lives.
Posted by at 4:49 AM on June 11
I am absolutely sure all national news outlets are aware of these events, and many others which aren’t even posted here, if the races were reversed, it would be the lead story at all news outlets, but none will touch anything to do w/black crime, or hispanic. This sort of thing is going on regularly throughout America, on the streets of large cities and small towns, wherever there are blacks or hispanics, the disparity in crime statistics should be a wake up call for Americans, we’ve sit by and watched our streets taken over by animals, we need more prisons, harsher sentences, less liberal judges, and laws that return prisons to places of punishment, decades of liberalism can be reversed, only thru the ballot box.
Posted by abc at 5:52 AM on June 11
I believe there is a direct correlation between high gas prices and tension between the races?
The seminal issue, I feel here, in understanding this mess, is the fact that there are wide differences between individual conduct within different races. Of course not all African - Americans are thugs, just as not all Southern Whites are inbred imbeciles! It does appear, however, that there has now been placed upon Whites, a kind of duty which expects us to be able to magically distinguish between the blacks which are “good” and the ones which are “bad”!
Fortunately, that is not too difficult in most cases! For example, a loud, thumping, bass line, in a car, literally shaking at a red light, as vulgar rap lyrics spew forth, indicates, at least to me, that the occupants of that car have recently had some familiarity with the inside of a jail cell!
Similarly, low cut pants with a baseball type cap turned either backward or to the side, along with a fifty word vocabulary punctuated with “know what I’m saying”, “feel me”, “dude” etc. about every third word would also indicate to me that this person’s day job would probably not involve working as a CPA!
Furthermore, were I to go into a night club where all the African - Americans were busy simulating anal intercourse on the dance floor, as an expression of artistic license and freedom you understand, I would probably not find any chess affectionaldo there with whom I could have an in depth discussion of the intricacies of the so called “Sicilian defense”!
Most Whites, in my part of the world at least, try to assiduously avoid these individuals and the areas in which they inhabit, in much the same way as they would a area quarantined by an outbreak of Legionnaire’s disease! Failing that, “Deep South Males” typically learn to shoot at an early age, and carry guns though out adulthood, because Southern Whites, who have been around African - Americans since infancy, all know that when it comes to dealing with African - Americans it is far better “to have a gun you don’t need, than it is to need one you don’t have”!
I personally believe that in good economic times it is much easier for Whites to be benevolent toward African - Americans (and I suppose vice versa). In the past, my professional associates simply shrugged off blatant African - American’s extortion attempts with the common lament that it is simply easier just to give them (the African Americans) money then it is to have to deal with them, or the government for that matter!
The rub is going to come when African - Americans will still be expecting Whites to continue to owe them a duty irrespective of the economy; and, at the rate in which this economy is falling apart, there will soon be no more discretionary money left with which to appease!
Consequently, I believe that scenes such as the one depicted in this article, are unfortunately, about to become commonplace!
Thank God for Senator Obama! I’m sure he has the answer!
MoMo
Posted by MoMo at 7:13 AM on June 11
Detroit, Los Angeles, Houston, Camden, New York City, D.C. these represent the future of multicultural America. Liberal whites have been sleep-walking through a dream world, and Obama is their latest dream. As long as our government and media are “controlled” by the privileged elite, we are powerless to individually stop the planned descent into diversity disaster.
I think the best advice is to keep your powder dry, and head for the boondocks. Make sure you head for a state where self deluded liberals are not in the majority—a glance at voting records should reveal that.
Posted by Sardonicus at 7:46 AM on June 11
Skip is right on one score. Load your magazines while wearing rubber kitchen gloves, and even if you handload, always use factory ammunition for your personal defense loadout.
He’s wrong on another. There is no such thing as “shoot to kill.” Aim for the perp’s center of mass, and continue firing until he goes down.
As a rifle cartridge, the 5.56mm is overrated. Get a metric-pattern FN-FAL, or build your own, using a Brazilian “Imbel” upper receiver. The magazines for metric FALs are much cheaper than for inch-pattern. The Springfield Armory M-14 cones are also great. When I was still allowed firearms, I couldn’t decide which was better, the M-14 or the FAL, so I gt one of each. I had a couple Aks in 5.56mm, and an M-1 carbine, but these were just “girlfriend guns”. The best military surplus 7.62mm NATO ammunition is from West Germany. The bullet cores are in two parts, divided at the jacket’s cannelure. On hitting a human, the bullet breaks in half, the rear end fragmenting while the front tumbles through.
The principal fault with the 5.56mm is lousy penetration, particularly if you are shooting the older 55-grain load in a newer rifle with a one-turn-in-seven-inch rifling twist. On hitting even light cover, the bullets break up, since the jackets are relatively thin and the bullets are spinning at over 300,000 RPMs. The 1986 shootout in Miami between two bank robbers and eight FBI agents was illustrative in this respect. Two agents were killed with a Ruger Mini-14, but one was saved when a 5.56mm bullet broke up on hitting an automobile window. His face was peppered with fragments and broken glass, but a 7.62mm round would have taken his head off. Another agent was saved because he had his arm in front of his heart, and this agent killed both bank robbers. A 7.62mm round would have killed him, too. Their supervisor was hit in a neck verebra by a 5.56mm bullet, which was deflected down into his torso. A 7.62mm round would have killed him. If Michael Platt had been using a FAL or an M-14, there would have been five dead FBI agents instead of two, and the robbers would have gotten away.
The only real justification for the 5.56mm cartridge is that the rifles that fire it are controllable on full-automatic. For civilians, this is a non-issue.
I built my old FAL myself, using an Austrian StG-58 parts set. This has a third selector setting, which in a semi- merely converts the rifle into a straight-pull bolt-action. The FBI was quite interested in this rifle when I was arrested, and sent it to their la at Quantico. The results of their testing were “This is not a machinegun, and can not even be made into one.” It was sent back to my mother, along with the rest of my collection. The Brazilian upper receiver does not have a full-auto ejector block, and I threw out the full-auto parts that came with the StG-58 parts set.
For a legal “machinegun”, one must think around the firearms laws. Obviously, anything that is not legally a “gun” is also not legally a “machinegun”. Using electromagnetic induction to launch a projectile is the way I used, onc I was off probabtion and decided to rearm. If a firearm can be thought of as a heat engine with a non-captive piston, then a coilgun can be thought of as an automobile starter solenoid with a non-captive actuator. Mine is composed of subassemblies, and can quickly be switched between use with 3/8” steel slingshot ammo to full-auto with military-surplus flechettes. Sights are fixed - a 1X Aimpoint scope that projects a red dot inside, as trajectory using flechettes is essentially flat for the purpose the weapon was designed for. Feed is electrical, too, for obvious reasons. Cyclic rate is very high, as the coilgun does not have to eject anything, but the limitations of the homopolar Faraday generator, wich I used instead of capacitors, means short bursts are required.
For a self-defense pistol, a revolver is best. They never jam, a hammer down on an empty chamber is an absolute safety, and fingerprints on spent cases are not an issue. I was never big on wheelguns until I traded a Walther P-38 for a Webley Mk-IV. I made the cases out of cut-down .45” Long Colt brass. A WW-2 surplus USMC flare pistol would probably also work, as these are 10-gauge caliber. I made some experimental high-explosive loads using aluminum shells I machined and filled with Blue Dot. The nose fuzes were .22” nail-driving blanks, epoxied in backwards. I gave up on that project when I realized that using it on even the most vile perp would leave me with a lot of explaining to do; shooting someone is one thing, but blowing them up is quite another.
Another reason for using factory ammunition is liability. Suppose Darnell the Serial Rapist and his evil brother N’Deshawtavious break in to your home. If you shoot them with a gun called a “pit bull” with some horrendous handload, you may well be sued. Consider that the estate Darnell left his baby momma probably consists of nothing more valuable than a crack pipe. She still wants hair extensions and glued-on fingernails, so she will sue your homeowner’s insurance company. Ask yourself now, which would look worse to an otherwise uninformed jury: perps shot dead with a Charter Arms “Pit Bull” with high-velocity handloads using Hornady XTP (eXtreme Terminal Performance) bullets, or perps shot dead with an antique Webley using factory ammo? The first of these would make local headlines, while the other would be in the “crime” section on page 15.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 8:05 AM on June 11
As bad as this is, with every white person attacked, it wakes up one more of us.
Posted by at 8:05 AM on June 11
Both my wife and I have concealed carry permits. My son and his wife have the same. My daughter will turn 21 in August at which time she will test for hers. The Taurus Millennium in .380 is an excellent personal defense weapon. Light weight, easily concealable with 12 in the mag and one in the tube filled with JHP ammo.
Posted by at 8:23 AM on June 11
From a previous post;
"There is a reason why undercover cops and CCW holders carry 9mm, ,38, .380 and .32. They are effective rounds that can be carried easily by most."
Just a couple of comments regarding caliber choices: The 9x19 Parabellum and the .38 are generally considered the minimum size for a personal defense cartridge. The 9x17 (.380) and the .32 are NOT man-stoppers, unless you happen to be very lucky in your shot placement while under stress. Personally, my choice of a CCW is a Glock 30 in .45 ACP using Remington Golden Sabre "flying ashtrays". I would recommend the .40 S&W as the absolute minimum and have seen many petite ladies able to handle this cartridge's recoil with no difficulty.
Posted by Eichmann at 9:08 AM on June 11
This stuff is not new. This has been happening for a long time. I once new a white guy who told me that in the 1970’s as a teenager he was walking across the Key Bridge over the Potomac river between Washington DC and Virginia and was met about midway by about six Black male’s and was picked up and thrown off the bridge to the water about fifty feet below with out a word. I am glad he survived and he said he had a broken rib and a broken arm. He got a lesson about Black’s he will never forget.
Posted by JOEMIXEDBLOODINDIAN at 9:22 AM on June 11
I would like to know what American gun owners think of the .22 cal., (revolver), as a viable weapon for self defense? Living up here in Absurdistan, I of course, do not own one, but let’s suppose somebody had to defend themselves with one…any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by Louis from Montreal at 9:52 AM on June 11
At some point, whites will finally fight back. When that day happens, many black thugs/gangstas and innocents will have hell to pay. Nobody knows when this will ever occur, but my guess is when this country slides into an deep economic depression. As for now, whites need to learn how to use firearms and live in states where conceal and carry is legal. Also, I like the 90% rule…any town/city with >90% white population is generally safer than a diverse city. Multiculturalism isn’t much fun when your getting your head bashed in courtesy of some young back thugs.
Posted by KyBryan;t at 10:02 AM on June 11
They do allow concealed carry in Michigan, but some unfortunate people live in states with “may issue” statutes, meaning it’s up to the local authorities to “ok” it, or they have no CC at all! (I used to live in Wisconsin, where they have no provision at all for CC, even though the “right to carry arms” is in the state constitution -go figure.)
The thing to do, it seems, is to live amongst your own kind. Not just white people, but white people who are like-minded! It’s too bad that “they” are taking over once good ol’ America, but it’s happening, folks. You couldn’t pay me enough to live in suburban Detroit (where the above attacks occured.) CC or no CC!
Posted by at 10:06 AM on June 11
If one is going to carry a small pistol, one had better be very good at bullet placement under stress.
A good shooting exercise is to go downrange to check targets and come back at a dead run, in order to get used to shooting while breathing hard and with an elevated heartrate.
My handloads were used to shoot someone only once. A close friend and his family were being bullied. The only pistol he had was a “Broomhandle” Mauser. I love the Broomhandle. I gave him a stripper clip of handloads I had made. Cases were cut-down, reformed and inside neck-reamed .223” brass. Primers were CCI 500s. Charges were 12.5 grains of IMR-4227. Bullets were 85-grain Hornady .311” XTP hollowpoints. Rim diameter isundersized using reformed .223” brass, but reliable if the extractor is in good shape.
Muzzle velocity was something like 1400 FPS.
The last time the bully broke into my friend’ house, in December 1998, he got shot. The bullet entered at the joint of the right shoulder. It turned 90 degrees and entered the collar bone, coring that out and splintering it to fragments as it stripped its own core and broke up. The bullet core made another 90-degree turn at the sternum and exited. The ex-bully fell down right away. Surgeons had to remove the remains of the collarbone. A one-shot stop using .30” caliber pistol ammo! My friend was held in the county jail for a few weeks, and then released. He told police he used my handloads because the only alternative was mil-surplus full-metal-jacket ammunition, which would go through walls and endanger the neighbors.
Among modern auto calibers, I would call 9mm X 19 the minimum for self-defense, and only for someone good at shot placement. Hollowpoints in .380” ACP and .32” ACP are available, but these cartridges really do not provide the muzzle velocity to allow both penetration and reliable expansion. The jackets are either thin enough to allow for expansion at low velocities, which means the bullets break up on hitting heavy bone, or else so thick expansion does not occur at all.
Muzzle energy is the real issue, and pressure tolerances being largely equal today, the route to more muzzle energy is a larger catridge case. It’s the same game hot-rodders play; there is no replacement for displacement.
If I was a non-felon, shopping for a handgun, I would buy a Browning Hi-Power in 10mm Smith & Wesson. My old collection has two Hi-Powers, one a Canadian “Inglis” model with tangent backsight and detachable wooden holster/stock, and the other a P-84 Mauser copy. I bought a .41” Action Express kit from Barstow Precision, Inc. that consists of a new barrel, a heavier recoil spring, and four magazines (like the orignals, but with wider feed lips to handle the fattr cases. I got them in stainless steel so I could tell the magazines apart at a glance.) The steep feed ramp of the Browning didn’t like .41” hollowpoints, but a cast lead semi-wadcutter worked great after I polished the feed ramps of both pistols until they were glass-smooth with steel wool soaked in rubbing alcohol.
Do I miss shooting? Just about every day.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 10:13 AM on June 11
Posted by John PM at 8:15 PM on June 10
Too true, the driver who stopped AFTER the brick was thrown was clearly a liberal moron. No sane male sees blacks blocking the road, tries to go around, then STOPS AND GETS OUT when a brick is thrown through his window!
Pure liberal stupidity!
Posted by Svigor at 11:18 AM on June 11
“I would recommend the .40 S&W as the absolute minimum and have seen many petite ladies able to handle this cartridge’s recoil with no difficulty. “
Perhaps. Perhaps EVERYTHING said here on the alleged ‘minimum’ caliber is true. But remember, the only gun that counts is the one you have with you when the “wilding” begins. Ipso Facto, ANY operational firearm is better than the gun you left at home or in your car because “it was too much trouble to bring.”
Nobody wants to get shot. So even the lowly .25ACP is a practical gun when you are being threatened. So YES, go ahead and buy SMALL CONCEALIBLE HANDGUNS like the new Ruger .380, or NAA .32 or Kel-Tec .32ACP. They are true pocket guns and you’ll be able to get pocket holsters to break up the outline. In states like Illinois where the carrying of a firearm is a FELONY, this is a paramount concern. The police are just as much a threat to your liberties as the criminal is to your life.
Posted by at 11:28 AM on June 11
I’m not buying the its “white genocide” time when Obama is elected as inevitable. Perhaps one of us with some title will actually take the initiative to ask the Sheriff and the town councilors who is and who is not “protected”, and from there take the steps to self defense in the future regardless of which mini Mugabe is foisted upon us by the evil media cult. We have to start our future somewhere and asking the Sheriff, politicians and of course the perps where we stand in relation to them all is a good first step.
Posted by Simmons at 11:28 AM on June 11
Everyone,
Let’s be absolutely clear on one thing: hate-crime laws apply to ALL racial groups - whites included. They are race-neutral in their content; they’d be unconstitutional if not.
Anyone who claims that whites are not a “protected class” for purposes of hate-crime laws is wrong. The issue is the unwillingness of the authorities to APPLY those laws in instances of violence directed against whites.
Posted by Fletcher the attorney at 11:43 AM on June 11
Ideology or loosely construed principles trumps actuality in all these events. The idea is that to report the race of a victim is to reinforce negative black stereotypes whereas the actuality is that the attack itself is what created the negative black stereotype and the victim is essentially worth less than the protection of the collective black mindframe and confidence.
That’s it, I’m done. Have you heard enough yet? Have others even heard about this at all?
Posted by at 11:46 AM on June 11
May I add something slightly off topic? There are many reasons why so many American Afros are mean and nasty, but here is a major contributing factor: our current prison system.
Being muscular and athletic increases a man’s testosterone level; therefore, working out with weights should not be allowed in prison. In fact, anything that could potentially channel the masculine or brutish side of men should not be allowed in prison, such as watching rap videos, playing basketball, reading porn, etc.
What our prisons need to do is to diminish the prisoners’ aggressive side and bring forth their gentle and altruistic side. For example, for recreation they could play cards, checkers, sew clothes for the poor, train guide dogs for the blind, tend gardens, clean the prison grounds, etc. Use of profanity and speaking belligerently should bring immediate withdrawal of privileges.
We don’t want to be cruel to them, but we can learn a few things by the way other countries handle their prisoners. From a video I saw, the prisoners in China march to the dining hall quietly and in military formation. They do not verbally abuse the prison guards. They salute their flag in a ceremony outside every day. The black prisoners from South Africa (who looked thin, not muscular and beefy like American Afros) sat around talking and playing cards on their cots in a big, crowded room. Their facial expressions were neutral or slightly happy, not mean and menacing.
Our current prison system with its liberal values and lack of discipline is hurting America, and we need to petition our Congress for change.
Posted by at 11:56 AM on June 11
>>>shocked to hear [Sheriff] Hackel suggest that whites are not entitled to equal protection under the law.
WAKE UP, WHITE AMERICA! You need to take responsibility for protecting your selves, your loved ones. OWN AND CARRY A GUN if you are near any bad neighborhood. USE IT IF YOU’RE ATTACKED — You believe YOUR life in danger.
If these criminals want MY blood, they better be ready to lose a hell of a lot of theirs first. My gun holds 8 rounds; ready to be used in self-defense!
Posted by Fed Up at 12:42 PM on June 11
No home should be without a pump action 12 gauge and plenty of buckshot shells. They can he had inexpensively. Nothing is more effective for defending yourself at close range. People in my family have used them to shoot burglars, Chinese PLA soldiers, Viet Cong guerillas and wild hogs. Most can be bought with only a DL in many states. It can put food on the table and save your life.
Posted by at 12:53 PM on June 11
The mainstream media is covering this story in Detroit. I googled several stories about this. It’s no surprise that they are not mentioning the race of the mob or the victims. Instead they describe the mob as “young men”. One article took it a step further and called them “a group of people”.
My question is when the average person reads articles like that can they read between the lines?
Posted by Jay at 1:11 PM on June 11
Good news!
It looks like the Sherif Department has busted a lot of these Black teen thugs and more arrests are on the way.
Thanks to everyone who participated in motivating the forces of justice.
Be tough, but fair and focus on getting the individual bad, thug, hate White people criminals and don’t show any weakness when dealing with teen criminals. If they are old enough to rob, beat, rape, assault our people, they are old enough to suffer strong punishment and have their bodies and faces held up as examples of the bad, getting their just punishments.
Here’s the link;
Great job everyone here and everywhere who worked to get these low lifes busted.
Posted by JR at 1:26 PM on June 11
So now we have a Kenyan-American Black running for president. Would ANYONE care to express the belief that Obama would get elected, Blacks would NOT regard it as their free ticket to do whatever devilment they can think of?
You ALL better think deeply about this one. Too many Blacks already are sociopaths and killers roaming the streets. With their [Black] Champion in the White House, you can all but guarantee the Black crime wave will reach new heights.
Posted by Fed Up at 1:36 PM on June 11
Just thought you people would find this interesting…I did!…Remember…we are giving MILLIONS to combat crime in MEXICO and SOUTH & CENTRAL AMERICA…yet we are NOT receiving funds from OUR government to combat OUR crime problems…while we are at war to preserve DEMOCRACY for IRAQ we are LOSING our democracy bit by bit…here comes ANOTHER SCHEME from the government!…and should Obama get in it will only get WORSE!!!!
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AFRICA!…the AFRICAN LEADERS who are committing MURDER against WHITES!…who are taking the land away from the WHITES!…where the WHITES have no rights and are TORTURED and LIVE IN FEAR on a DAILY BASIS!…the ONLY “AFRICAN REFUGEES” being DENIED…by OUR GOVERNMENT entry into this country or refugee status!
This country is going to DIE a SLOW LINGERING DEATH!…I truly fear for what the future will hold for MY WHITE GRANDCHILDREN!…P.S….why is there no outcry for the floods going on in IOWA and WISCONSIN?…where is FEMA?…where is the PRESIDENT?…oh yeah…the citizens are WHITE in those states!…and being white means THEY ARE ON THEIR OWN!
Posted by Suzan Donoghue at 1:38 PM on June 11
“print the above article and distribute in clandestine manner
at libraries, public toilets, schools, universities, streets, subways, busses,..let us do what the MSM cannot do for us.”
Wonderful idea!!!!!! Now that I am retired I will do this along with other articles about black on white crime.
But here in S. California, only the stupid native born american whites still worship blacks. The immigrants of all races despise them.
Posted by at 2:00 PM on June 11
Regions where ‘tensions’ like this exist regularly almost always have gun control ordinances.
Posted by at 2:05 PM on June 11
Can someone please tell me? Do Blacks attack other Blacks in packs like this, or do they only attack Whites (and I guess Asians?) pack-style like this?
Posted by Robert Lindsay at 2:18 PM on June 11
The white community absolutely would not tolerate this if white youth were attacking blacks.
If the black race were really fully civilized, they would crack down on this criminal behavior and put a stop to it. All it would take is black leadership to condemn these acts and take legal action to deal strenuously with these outrages. Yet the overwhelming majority of black Americans really do not care that this is happening and will either remain silent or make excuses for this.
Posted by at 2:29 PM on June 11
The ideal weapon for anyone is the heaviest caliber they can shoot accurately. I would rather be missed with 20mm Hispano-Suiza 404 than hit with a .22” rimfire.
When I was allowed to go shooting until eight years ago, I went shooting three times a month. I was never big on pistols after I fell in love with the ‘Broomhandle’ Mauser. I collected militarily significant rifles. My first rifle was an 1891 Argentine Mauser in 7.63mm X 54. I made cases out of reformed .30-06 brass, and initially used .303” British load data. My first pistol was a “Bolo” Broomhandle. That was 1991, but I had to develop the loads myself.
My old collection is in the hands of a retired Green Beret. One Mauser C-96 pistol I have never fired. It is in 9mm Mauser Export caliber. I was tooled up to make cases and had a thousand rounds of empty 9mm Win Mag brass about this time in 2000, just before my arrest by the FBI. With the heat-treat and the heavy recoil spring, this should deliver .357” magnum ballistics.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 2:52 PM on June 11
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 8:05 AM on June 11
Thank You Mr. Scott, your information is much appreciated.
Cheers
Posted by MW at 3:31 PM on June 11
As I read this article and posts, I heard NPR announce that three white teens attacked an older black man (who was using a cane for support) after demanding a cigarrette. The victim said that there was no mention of his race or any name calling, but authorities are still pretty sure that it will be seen as a hate crime, due to the races of the perps and victim.
I listen to NPR often while reading Amren. This gives me an acute media experience. But once in a while, something like this happens. This is a case in fact of the condition we are in. While I don’t condone attacking anyone in this fashion, the media treatment differences are well illustrated.
Posted by Whiteplight at 3:53 PM on June 11
“Hate crimes” do not set up protected classes. They increase penalties for crimes motified by (inter alia) racial animus. Enforcement is uneven, as law enforcement officials often deny that blacks attacking whites are so motivated. However, Hackel is saying that the Michigan hate crimes law imposes heavier penalties when whites attack blacks but not vice versa. I do not believe that is the case.
Posted by GB at 3:56 PM on June 11
Get a gun, carry a gun and use a gun. It is a God given right to protect yourself.
Posted by CWH at 4:00 PM on June 11
“It continues to “shock” me that white folks don’t KNOW their own status in these “United” States? The more these incidents occur, the more I smile. It actually takes a beating to wake up some whites. As for the fool that tried to go around the line of thugs, if it was me I would have driven right thru them. The more I mowed down during my escape, the better I would feel and I’d be saving the taxpayers money at the same time. A twofer so to speak. Unlike many whites, I am anxious for the next civil war. Really anxious… so bring it on!!!”
Posted by at 5:50 PM on June 10
> When anyone applies for a Federal or State funded job the application contains a long qualifier defining who is and isn’t considered part of the Protected Groups. I have thought that the use of the word PROTECTED encourages the notion that non-whites have special privileges and whites may be deprived - especially white males. I would postulate that the idea that whites are not a Protected Group is well known among the so-called minorities. They are smart enough to surmise that this means un-protected and their agression toward whites will be tolerated or excused.
Posted by Whiteplight at 4:05 PM on June 11
Don’t carry a handgun unless the caliber starts with a 4!
Posted by at 4:13 PM on June 11
Given the apparent inability of the police to protect the citizens of this hapless little burg (or any citizens for that matter, since they always arrive after the fact)the sheriff should encourage the law-abiding townspeople to get carry permits and offer free police-sponsored safety and firearms proficiency instruction.
With that accomplished, I doubt that we’d see a repeat performance by the local racist thugs.
Posted by john at 4:14 PM on June 11
On self-defense with a gun. I am 100% for a law-abiding person to have the right to carry. In today’s society it is fast becoming a must. But with the talk about dropping an attacker, and then thinking you’re free to walk away, safe from detection, provided that you have no other witnesses and that you have no finger-prints on your spent brass cases, is neglecting one very important thing. If you live in Michigan at least, when you legally purchase a pistol, you have to register it at a local police station in your County. There, they will fire one round through you pistol, and keep it in their files. Every single gun barrel has it’s own ‘signature (finger-print if you will). All they have to do is dig the bullet out of the corps and (provided it’s not too distorted from impact) trace it to your gun and YOU!
If you are in the right, there is no reason why you should not call the police to report an act of self-defense involving a firearm. By not doing so, you become an outlaw and are setting yourself up for a world of hurt. If you were justified, you should have little to worry about from the law.
However, there is one situation where you are damned either way. If you are white and your act of self-defense involves a black attacker in a majority black run (i.e. Liberal/Leftist/= Anti-White Racist, Anti-2nd Amendment) city, you’re screwed. Regardless how justified you were, you will most likely be prosecuted and crucified.
With this probability, the best advise would be to stay out of areas with black concentrations and power/control. But most people who post here are smart enough to know that already.
Posted by Risorgimento II at 4:47 PM on June 11
All these incidents of black on white crimes are piling up. And don’t think for one minutes that we here at Amren are the only ones who are noticing. Everyone on my husband’s job site have already stated that they’ve got their guns loaded and ready because even dumb hillbilly rednecks know what’s coming down the pike. We may live in a small town here but it’s just a matter of time.
Posted by Gayle Sollenberger at 4:49 PM on June 11
Anyone that thinks giving a black the Democratic nomination, or giving a black the presidency will change the behaviors of blacks is kidding themselves.
It will more than likely ENCOURAGE their propensity towards violence.
And pinheaded liberals will grab at straws trying to explain it - and of course put the blame on whites as usual…
Posted by at 4:56 PM on June 11
I’m astonished at all the shoot-em up comments on this story.
It’s bad but not that bad yet. What’s needed are some - - ANY - - attorneys willing to fight this out in court. The trouble is: where are they? I spent a whole day going through the yellow pages contacting lawyers in the Washington, DC area. Not one was willing to touch anything that might be considered “anti-black.”
Whites are routinely denied the equal protection of the law guaranteed by our Constitution. Paul Craig Roberts has written brilliantly on this matter, but I called him once asking if he could recommend a lawyer who would go to court about it, and his secretary told me Mr. Roberts did not get involved in specifics.
Posted by Frank Keliher at 5:02 PM on June 11
“Any suggestions on how to get started on learning how to handle firearms in a safe, sane, and sober manner”
Don’t drink and handle firearms!
Seriously, laws for concealed carry and owning firearms are different depending on what state you live in. You may have to take a short course in order to carry a concealed gun.
Go to your state police’s website.
Call shooting ranges in your area for all details. They are more than happy to get your business. Be responsible..learn how to handle firearms. It is your duty!
Posted by Granny for Guns at 5:09 PM on June 11
I’m ready when you are..!
Posted by Quinn at 6:20 PM on June 11
This is nothing new, for all times when blacks think they can act without impunity their actions are always violent and racist.
After obama is elected it will become more of a field day for violent blacks.
Do idiot whites actually think blacks and other minorities are motivated by justice and equality? It’s about power and minority self enrichment at anyones expense.
Get real.
Posted by jdavis at 7:01 PM on June 11
Black on white brutality has been around for years.I am
reminded of the Ogden Utah Hi Fi murders in 1974.Google it
up,but only if you have a strong stomach.
Unreconstructed
Posted by unreconstructed at 7:12 PM on June 11
Whites must remain tight knit. We must maintain our neighborhoods. We must have block meetings. Never selling to minorities should be our creed. If we are to survive we must do this. People will try to label us, but freedoms don’t come cheaply. What’s ours is ours. Let them live in their own communities.
Posted by sandstorm at 7:32 PM on June 11
“…Thank God for Senator Obama! I’m sure he has the answer!…”
Posted by MoMo at 7:13 AM on June 11
He sure does. And here it is:
Obama’s so-called Global Poverty Act (S. 2433):
“…U.S. taxpayers could very well be committed to spending $0.85 trillion (or approximately $8500.00 per household) — much of it going to third world dictators and despots that hate America — under the guise of fighting “global poverty…”
This stupid, specious bill also includes the following:
“…In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning ‘small arms and light weapons’…”
As for self defense, this is the best advice I’ve ever seen:
“…No woman should ever be helpless. This is one reason the Colt 1873 single-action revolver was nicknamed the Equalizer… Never put your faith in a handgun. Its only purpose is to keep you alive until you can get to your shotgun. ..”
And:
”..Nothing on the North American continent can stand up against a 12-gauge shotgun blast. The .38 Special and 9mm handguns commonly used by police and military personnel around the world deliver between 200 and 300 foot-pounds of force. A 12-gauge shotgun delivers 2,000, enough to lift a horse a foot off the ground.
A pump gun has a unique advantage; it will probably get rid of an intruder without the need to fire the gun. The act of chambering a round produces a distinct clack-clack noise recognizable to almost everyone. Without a shot being fired, this sound will cause any rational intruder to dive out a window.
If the intruder does not flee, then he is probably on drugs, in which case you will be very glad you have your hands wrapped around this small cannon.
Load the shotgun with #4 buckshot. Not #4 shot, #4 buckshot, the difference is not trivial….”
http://www.chaostan.com/nxnet/nuclear-threat.html
I keep my shotgun handy at all times when I’m home. I am a small female and I’ve learned how to use it to protect myself and my children. I’m also handy with DH’s Mauser.
From the comment thread:
”..If there is one thing you can do it is to leave plenty of space between your car and the car in front of yours if there is anyone ahead of you, at least one car length. This way you can pull around other vehicles without being blocked in and drive away…”
Very good advice. I actually learned this in a seminar many years ago, given for teachers who work in the inner-cities—-it was conducted by a police officer dispatched from the gang detail. It is advice I’ve never forgotten as I am an itinerant teacher and at times must drive into dicey parts of town. For those times, I keep a handgun in my purse within reach.
Bon
Posted by BonBon at 8:32 PM on June 11
“…A pump gun has a unique advantage; it will probably get rid of an intruder without the need to fire the gun. The act of chambering a round produces a distinct clack-clack noise recognizable to almost everyone. Without a shot being fired, this sound will cause any rational intruder to dive out a window…
Posted by BonBon at 8:32 PM on June 11”
I call my Mossberg M590 my universal translator. It says “Get the #$%@! out NOW!” in over 100 different languages.
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 9:08 PM on June 11
Stuff like this happens every single day in America.
Posted by Joe at 9:13 PM on June 11
Are we surprised that hate crime statutes weren’t devised to protect white people?
There was a time that whites in the area would organize and terrorize (read kill & maim) and burn down the neighborhood where the offending blacks lived. Only lethal justice applied by fellow white citizens will ever put an end to these type of animalistic attacks. We’ve been left to twist in the wind by our supposed white leaders at all levels. We don’t count and nobody cares about our well being as a people.
Chances are that the victims may not testify or will be unable to identify their attackers (they all look alike, ya know) thus allowing the perps to evade justice and commit more violent crimes. Wine and chablis white nationalism is NOT the answer to this type of outrage against white people. Draw your own conclusions.
Posted by Super Dave at 11:11 PM on June 11
“If there is one thing you can do it is to leave plenty of space between your car and the car in front of yours if there is anyone ahead of you, at least one car length. This way you can pull around other vehicles without being blocked in and drive away. Don’t worry about damage to your car or hitting anyone. I have a really nice car too, but I’d rather have it in the shop than me in the morgue. Doing this has saved the lives of people around the world from criminals, carjackers and assassins. They train bodyguards to do this because it is an effective way to aid in escape. Do this at all times so it becomes a habit.”
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. I was trapped in my car several months ago by a “man” on drugs who crashed a rock against my windshield until it shattered. I was able to get away and he was caught, but he got a slap on the wrist for not taking his meds! Thank God there was enough space for me to get away. Once they hit your car ONCE, step on the gas. If you are stuck in a lawsuit for “unlawful” injury or worse, make sure you keep excellent records. It is getting dangerous even to go about town alone, so try to have someone with you when possible.
Posted by at 12:23 AM on June 12
“Being muscular and athletic increases a man’s testosterone level; therefore, working out with weights should not be allowed in prison. In fact, anything that could potentially channel the masculine or brutish side of men should not be allowed in prison, such as watching rap videos, playing basketball, reading porn, etc. “
Good point, esp. since so very many crimes are about power.
Posted by at 12:44 AM on June 12
“even dumb hillbilly rednecks know what’s coming down the pike.”
I’m hardly a man who walks around with a PC Handbook in my back pocket, but there ARE limits, and your comment quoted above was inappropriate. You should apologize, seriously. Even if you’re going to say, after the fact, that you were being ironic, or that you consider yourself one, or even try to accuse the accuser, etc. it was still wrong.
Posted by Scot Landers at 12:50 AM on June 12
You should have been here when the LA riots kicked off. There was a green light on whites. The gangs actually ran the streets looking for white people to do and nobody did anything about it. We locked ourselves in our homes and locked and loaded. Fortunately earthquake prevention is big here so people had the necessary supplies on hand. We watched what was happening on television and guarded our families and houses. Eventually the national guard showed up and after some time order was restored.
Posted by Unemployed WASP at 3:04 AM on June 12
Why are so many people surprised about the fact that the police cannot be relied on? People who suggest carrying a concealed weapon are right on! Here in Los Angeles, during the 1992 riots, some 50 plus people were cold bloodedly murdered. One guy shot while riding his motorcycle, another man shot in his car, many others shot or beaten. The police wer utterly useless. My friends and I could not beleive it. The Reginald Denny incident was incredible. A group of blacks dragged this trucker out of his car as he came to a red light in South Central Los Angeles. As they proceeded to beat him, with the clear intention of killing him, a police helicopter, a news helipcopter, and a police squad care were all within distance to help him. They literally just watched.
To this day, the murders of over 50 people during the 92 Los Angeles riot have never been solved. Once again, Americans who actually believe the police can or even will help you in most circumstances in which you are in danger, are extremely deluded, as most of the posters have pointed out.
Posted by Bobby at 4:02 AM on June 12
“The mainstream media is covering this story in Detroit. I googled several stories about this. It’s no surprise that they are not mentioning the race of the mob or the victims. Instead they describe the mob as “young men”. One article took it a step further and called them “a group of people”.
“My question is when the average person reads articles like that can they read between the lines?”
Given that we’re dealing with Detroit, I’m pretty sure anyone with half a brain can read between the lines on this. And the fact that the MSM blatantly refuses to identify the race of the perpetrators serves as a useful wake-up call as to how the establishment refuses to say anything that might be seen as offending minorities.
Posted by Charles Lindbergh at 9:44 AM on June 12
I understand the love some folks have for shotguns, but aside from one pistol, I never liked smoothebores. One of my best friends swears by them, and shoots skeet with a .75” caliber flintlock musket. He wears a kilt to the range when he brings his musket. I think .75” is about 12-gauge.
My own favorite cartridge is 8mm X 57 Mauser.
The most accurate load I ever developed was for 8mm X 57 Mauser for use in a Kar-98k and a Turkish contract 1898 made at Spandau in 1916. I used chopped and reformed .30-06 cases, 47 grains of Hodgdon H-4895 and the 185-grain Remington PSP-CL (which I call the “popsickle”), with CCI large rifle primers. This load cycled the actions of my G-43s, my Egyptian contract FN-49 and my Hakim and was supremely accurate. For my 1888/05 rifle, I used 42 grains, and it did minute-of-angle groups.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 9:48 AM on June 12
First of all let me say that the bad guys depend upon a largely unarmed populace. In other words, their crimes are perpetrated with, and because of, the fact that they believe their victims will be unarmed. I the perpetrators instead were pretty sure that most people were armed, there would be much less crime. Believe it!
Which brings me to my question:
I’m getting ready to purchase my very own Mossberg 500 12 gauge. The question is - is it better that my neighbors (particularly my black neighbors) know that there is a shotgun next to my arm chair while I’m sitting here watching television or is it better for them not to know that I’m armed?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Realist in Atlanta …
Posted by Realist in Atlanta at 9:56 AM on June 12
Forget that shotgun, and get a centerfire rifle, the heaviest caliber you can accurately shoot.
Ten years ago, the Spanish Army FR-8 Mauser was a good deal. Just over $120 and in .308” NATO. It uses Mauser ‘98 stripper clips and not M-14 strippers. Don’t get an FR-7. Early (pre-1898) Mausers rebarreled for NATO caliber are unsafe, as they were designed for 37,000 PSI chamber pressures, while the NATO round develops 52,000 PSI.
Ishapur arsenal .308” NATO Enfields are good, too.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 10:46 AM on June 12
My favorite rifle was a G-43. It was one of the prototypes made by Walther in 1943, and so had a machined receiver and bolt carrier assembly. I paid $800 for it, but it was a steal at that price.
Posted by Michael C. Scott at 11:11 AM on June 12
Last night, two white women in Portland OR were attacked and beaten by a group of young blacks at a public transportation stop. There were anti-white slogans accompanying the blows. The local media reported that the police were “investigating” whether it was a hate crime. The local news did attempt to play down the race identity of the perps calling them “youths.” There were serveilance cameras that recorded the attacks.
Posted by Whiteplight at 1:27 PM on June 12
“I understand the love some folks have for shotguns, but aside from one pistol, I never liked smoothebores.”
Rifled barrels are available for shotguns. They are used for shooting SLUGS. Why are they called slugs? Such slugs can be fired thru either type of barrel. Some slugs have a plastic wrapper, called a sabot (SAY-BOW?), for use in the rifled barrel. This aids in getting the slug to spin, for accuracy.
I’ve got a Mossberg 500. It DOES make a scary noise.
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-51903.html”
http://www.chartingnature.com/books.cfm?book=B13977
Posted by spy v. spy at 2:03 PM on June 12
“Can someone please tell me? Do Blacks attack other Blacks in packs like this, or do they only attack Whites (and I guess Asians?) pack-style like this?”
They attack asians, hispanics and subcontinental indians as well. Recently, an asian student was attacked in NYC and was killed when struck by a car. Some time ago an indian guy was attacked too. Anybody can be (and is) a target.
Posted by at 3:10 PM on June 12
http://www.city-data.com/forum/atlanta/351796-possible-reason-atlanta-s-violent-suburbs.html
People, Please read this forum topic and read what some of the posters on here are saying. It’s really sad that liberals think this way. I swear, They are trying to kill off the white race. It’s “natural” for blacks to think this way, but liberals? I’ve never met people more hard headed than the ones on C-D/forum.
All the blacks move out of Atlanta and now it’s tied to racism. I live in the southern suburb of Henry County, GA and can’t wait to move back into city.
It’s funny, blacks move in, crime goes up. Me and my “moderate” state of mind concludes that it’s not about race, but culture. It just happens that the culture happens to be the black race. Some people just live in such denial that one wonders how they survive.
“If” Bara