Obama’s Church: Why Hillary Cried—Father Michael Pfleger
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Fr. Michael Pfleger, YouTube, May 25, 2008
Editor’s Note: The following is a partial transcript of the video:
Pastor Otis Moss: He needs no introduction. He’s a friend of Trinity, he’s a brother beloved. He’s a preacher par excellence. He’s a prophetic, powerful pulpiteer. He is our friend. He is our brother. He is none other than Father Michael Pfleger. (Crowd on its feet, standing ovation, loud applause). We welcome him once again…
…Pfleger: [Unintelligible] to address the one who says, “Well, don’t hold me responsible (gesticulating) for what my ancestors did. But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did and unless you are ready to give up the benefits (voice rising), throw away your 401 fund, throw away your trust fund, throw away all the money you put into the company you WALKED INTO BECAUSE YO’ DADDY AND YO’ GRANDDADDY AND YO’ GREATGRANDDADDY–(screaming at the top of his lungs)–UNLESS YOU’RE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE BENEFITS, THEN YOU MUST BE REPSONSIBLE FOR WHAT WAS DONE IN YOUR GENERATION ‘CUZ YOU ARE THE BENEFICIARY OF THIS INSURANCE POLICY! (Wild gestures, wild applause).
… We must be honest enough to expose white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head.
I said before I don’t want this to be political because, you know, I’m very unpolitical (mocking tone, huge laughter).
When Hillary was crying (gesturing tears, uproarious laughter from audience)–and people said that was put on–I really don’t believe it was put on.
I really believe that she just always thought ‘This is mine’ (laughter, hoots). ‘I’m Bill’s wife. I’m WHITE. And this is mine. And I jus’ gotta get up. And step into the plate. And then out of nowhere came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama.’ And she said: ‘Oh, damn!’ WHERE DID YOU COME FROM!?!?! (Crowd going nuts, Pfleger screaming). I’M WHITE! I’M ENTITLED! THERE’S A BLACK MAN STEALING MY SHOW. (SOBS!) SHE WASN’T THE ONLY ONE CRYING! THERE WAS A WHOLE LOTTA WHITE PEOPLE CRYING!
I’m sorry. I don’t wanna get you in any mo’ trouble. The livestreaming just went out again …
[See the video here.]
(Posted on May 30, 2008)
Comments
These virulent political hate “sermons” from the tax-exempt black pulpits come as no suprise to me, but how can ANY white American dismiss them as isolated or irrelevant incidents? Don’t they see the exultations of the animated black crowds, and feel the hot breath of contempt on the backs of their very own necks?
To coin a phrase from a very clever AmRen post: No Obama Nation!!
Posted by KonfederateKarl at 4:54 PM on May 30
I’ve been following this Pfleger character for awhile. He threatened physical violence against Chicago’s legit gun dealers and owners. Why Benedict XVI doesn’t defrock him is beyond me.
Posted by Question Diversity at 5:21 PM on May 30
I believe he got it half right.
Senator Clinton likely believed she would be unopposed and with her husbands support and supporters, she’d be handed the nomination and the presidency on a silver platter.
I think it’s unlikely she thought in terms of ‘a black man is stealing the election’, at least at first.
She’s likely stymied by the fact that blacks have abandoned her and her husband. I’ll bet that during the process of deciding to run, everyone believed she’d have the black vote in her pocket.
Race trumps all.
Posted by sbuffalonative at 5:36 PM on May 30
This man is like no priest I’ve ever heard. His rants are more like the mad ravings of Obama’s other preacher. Does Obama need enemies with friends like these?
Posted by June at 5:59 PM on May 30
Well, there are some real gems here but this one really takes the cake:
“… We must be honest enough to expose white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head.”
It is this very type of Red in a cassock and collar, that has driven me from the Catholic Church. Social Marxism and “liberationist” theology, are the work of the devil and the American church seethes with it. I do not consider this Red swine a priest that serves God in any sense of the word, but instead a worshiper of Satan who makes a mockery of the mass and church as his means of hellish desecration for his true master. He and every Communist “priest” like him should be excommunicated, period.
Also, I wonder if this idiot realizes the damage he has done to his fair-haired mulatto? On the heals of the “reverend” Wright fiasco, this spectacle is going to solidify all but the most vapid and spineless of whites against Comrade Obama. This is despite all the duck and cover antics by the “mainstream” media. The story has gotten out and the damage has been done; the toothpaste just isn’t going back in the tube or off YouTube.
While I believe that Comrade Obama has the Democratic nomination locked, McCain is going to sweep the general election. This is simply because all of the Reds that support him most fanatically, can’t control themselves or delay their debauched revelry at multicultural “ascendancy” and “whitey’s” demise, before it even happens.
That is why, in the long run, decent whites should triumph in this struggle. Our enemies are just too stupid to realize that there is a big difference between battles and wars, or for that matter primary riots and electoral consolidation.
Posted by John PM at 6:55 PM on May 30
Even without bothering with all the obvious faults of this “pulpiteer”, we can quickly dismantle his arguments.
1) Granted, individual whites can benefit from the institutions founded by whites - but so can recent Asian arrivals. Blacks, on the other hand, will never benefit, because the institutions themselves are alien creations that have nothing in common with their own ethnic culture.
2) Where did Barack Obama “come from” to steal Hillary’s show? From the money of other white liberals, who preferred a mixed-race candidate to Hillary to further their agenda. No way Barack Obama would ever have gotten to this point on his own.
Have you got any other arguments for us, Mr. Preacher-Man, or is it time to go back to (mis)quoting the Bible - or do you also do that?
Posted by at 7:21 PM on May 30
I thought nothing could be more nauseating that a white guy aping a black rapper. That is until I saw Father Pfleger; it is embarrassing bad.
He did mention white supremacy and white privilege. But he either doesn’t understand these things or is being deceitful about them.
Whenever you are around blacks the talk turns to race. And when the talk turns to race it immediately ask the question: Which race is better or best? I think that the white race is over all superior to other races. From Fr. Pfleger’s remarks and the crowd’s reaction, it looks like blacks feel that way about the white race too.
He speaks disparagingly of white privilege. From what Fr. Pfleger says white privilege is something like the race solidarity that the blacks in the church were displaying. Whites simply don’t have that intense racial solidarity that other races and ethnic groups possess. But if white privilege does exist no mentally sound white would give it up without a fight to the death
I wonder how an honest truthful sermon would go over with the blacks. I know that if Fr. Pfleger tells the blacks that sex outside marriage is forbidden, is a mortal sin, and condemns their immortal soul to eternal damnation, next week his church will empty.
Posted by P Noctura at 7:37 PM on May 30
The most disturbing thing of all is it is a white man saying these things.
If anyone has any doubts about how far race traitors are willing to go. How crazy they are.
These people would stand by with smug self-satisfied smiles, as whites are sent to the showers for ethnic cleansing.
Right up to the very second they are told to get in line with the rest.
Posted by at 7:37 PM on May 30
They can change the name from “Trinity United” to Totally Incoherent Church of Christ.
Although the rant is barely worth criticizing in detail, one point to be made is that “your daddy and your grand-daddy” still lived and worked long after slavery was abolished. You would have to go back even further in history to find people who benefitted from slavery.
Posted by Reader-1 at 7:41 PM on May 30
I thought I’d seen everything but no, I had not yet seen
“Father” Pfleger. My disgust knows no bounds. This wretched,
self hating, White hating, West hating communist is the limit.
He should be defrocked at once at the very least. And if Divine
Justice was truly served, forced to live in the inner city with
all his Black friends. And let him work for a living, really
work not pontificate, gesticulate, and make a fool out of him-
self. After ten years of this, then I’d like to hear from him
again. Until then, let him shut very much up.
Posted by Freyr at 7:56 PM on May 30
It would be easier to believe that AmRen magazine, website and foundation is just one big boiler plate scam operation invented to get money by making media things up, then it would to believe a guy could sell himself out like that… Which one of you is putting me on?!? Gotta be the magazine right?!?
Posted by Tim Mc Hugh at 7:57 PM on May 30
Father Pleger needs to be defrocked IMMEDIATELY for stoking the flames of racial resentment and hatred. This is NOT the way a priest should behave.
Catholics should contact their local churches and the Vatican and request that this priest be sent away on a permanent leave of absence.
Posted by Bannister at 8:45 PM on May 30
Fr. Michael Pfleger is a perfect example of the White man who hates his own race so much, through a twisted, ill-conceived belief that everything that has ever gone wrong in the world is the fault of the Caucasian race, that he will scream hatred of it as Pfleger just did; work with non-Whites to try to undermine his own race; and look forward eagerly to the day when (he hopes) the White race will be stamped out from the earth. Except for himself, of course. Presumably he will be given a pass as an Honorary Person of Color.
Why in God’s name hasn’t Pfleger’s bishop (he IS a Catholic priest) long since forbade him to ever preach such sermons or get involved in politics again, on pain of having the priesthood torn from his back through de-frocking? Because — or so I’ve heard — the cardinal archbishop of Chicago is afraid to thus exercise his rightful authority, possibly fearing riots on the South Side. If true, what pitiful cravenness!
Posted by Wayne Engle at 8:46 PM on May 30
It is sad to see a man so starved for attention that he engages in such theatrics, because that is what this is: A man so starved for affection that he becomes a jester, a fool, in order to get it.
So I ask myself: Have White people failed this man? Have we ostracized him, ridiculed him, not given him respect?
I don’t know. But I do know that this is sad for him to go to another ethnic group in order to get strokes. Perhaps it reveals a shortcoming among Whites that we need to work on.
I know the first reaction is to hate him, to ridicule him. Let us instead look at ourselves and see if we are treating other Whites in such a way that would cause them, sometime in life, to do something like this.
I seems to me that the Columnbine disaster, for example, was due in part to Whites bullying and crucifying other Whites. What is there about us that causes this? Why do we need to put down other Whites in order to feel superior?
Indeed, let us pray for this man, and work on loving each other.
Posted by the Fundament at 8:56 PM on May 30
I bet his daddy’s proud of him!
It’s a church. None of what Pfleger or Wright have said needs to be in a church. Pfleger obviously has more loyalty to Wright than Obama. He had to know that this would cause problems for Obama.
We really don’t have free speech in this country because we’re expected to apologize for our spoken opinions (I had this idea in the context of something that everyone knows to be true and needs to be said.) Now I certainly don’t agree with or support Pfleger. But, he knew that his apology for what he said about Clinton would appease those who expect an apology, but it was said. It’s out there. I don’t care enough to talk like the people who are connected to the political game; but our laws, words, and leaders mean nothing.
Posted by at 9:25 PM on May 30
I find it amusing to say the least though that after one priest is identified there are cries against corruption and calls of him to be defrocked.
I have seen entire denominations in the protestant faith first hand in they which barely disguise it’s brazen resentment, fear, and outright hatred. This is not to be accepted in the Catholic faith.
This man is a rarity in the Catholic faith and should and will be dealt with. He was made to apologize immediately following these comments and I and many others are making immediate plans to send letters to the archdiosese of Chicago to deal with this appropriately. If I wanted this selfishly race based mass I would be a protestant.
Former protestant.
Posted by at 9:29 PM on May 30
Never forget who Obama really represents
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mw2Xg0DELc&feature=related
Posted by at 10:01 PM on May 30
Even more important to note than the racist, anti-white hate coming from the preachers of that church are the backs who are giving standing ovations, obviously delighted with hearing every single white-hating word.
And even worse than the congregants are the black talking heads on television defending this vitriole with their usual illogical, childish reasoning that adds to the hatred and insults. They’re now trying to equate Rev. Hagee and Rev. Parsley, who made a slight faux pas about Islam and Catholicism that doesn’t amount to very much, putting them in the same boat as those at Trinity Church, who live and breathe anti-white hatred 24/7, and rejoice in it. Absolutely amazing.
Keep in mind too, that most all blacks feel the same way, and that the reason they do has absolutely nothing to do with anything they’re told whites have done to them. Their hatred stems from the fact they can’t succeed in a modern society becasuse of their lack of ability and intelligence, and they need a scapegoate to blame their failures on. That’s the crux of every hateful statement that comes from their evil mouths.
America will continue to degenerate badly until this evil group of miscreants are finally expelled by any means possible.
Posted by Ranger at 10:03 PM on May 30
look at this white governor of pennslvania praise Louis Farrrakhan and the NOI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA&NR=1
Posted by moe at 10:30 PM on May 30
The obvious reason Pfleger has turned to blacks for recognition is the intelligence factor. Only mental midgets would be swayed by his moronic rhetoric. Lowl intelligence abounds in the mob mentality prevalent in those congregations he preaches to. They are eager to place blame for their failures on anyone but themselves.
Posted by White Slave at 11:20 PM on May 30
Pleger isn’t worried about being defrocked, in fact he has been taunting the church to fire him.
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/05/pfleger_to_arch.html
Posted by at 11:34 PM on May 30
When did it become acceptable to say curse words in the Lords house? Pfleger & Wright both curse at the pulpit!
I think Pfleger is trying to work his way up the ‘race hustling for profit’ ladder. This was an obvious cry for attention.
Posted by Jodie at 11:45 PM on May 30
I’m still trying to figure out what these wonderful benefits my ancestors gave me from bringing slaves over to the United States - assuming the rare possibility that some might have owned slaves. It certainly wasn’t a big inheritance check, because I never received that.
What is the benefit? The higher crime rate? The higher taxes used to pay for the welfare to support illegitimate black children, public schools, and prisons? Rap music? How exactly are large numbers of violent, angry, uneducated, and lazy black men making me wealthy?
And for this, I should gratefully turn over my 401K to Reverend Wright?
Posted by Disgruntled at 12:25 AM on May 31
Soon we’ll need a lawyer present just to talk to each other. Perhaps that’s the whole idea in the first place. On the plus side it would create a lot of new jobs.
Posted by at 2:49 AM on May 31
Quite disappointing.
It does show that there exists a crisis in personal racial identity when a white man stoops to imitating black speech and manners.
If the speaker had been black, I’d have thought that the speech had some merit in that it was true that Hillary was most likely expecting to be handed the nomination on a silver platter.
Lesson to learn, folks: Authentic white ‘liberals’ such as Fr. Phleger don’t care about white people; they love minorities. People who get power by betraying their own race obviously will continue to betray them once they have power — something Hillary has had to learn the hard and painful way.
The race-traitors do not belong to our race; they belong to the race they betrayed us for. Let them find refuge there.
Posted by Thrasymachus at 5:32 AM on May 31
I wonder if he thinks that todays Jews are responsible for the crucifixion?
I wonder if he thinks todays blacks are responsible for the millions of white slaves that were taken into North Africa from across southern/western Europe in the 1400’s - 1700’s?
Guess not.
The usual old nonesense from a self loathing liberal.
At least the Blacks are around today to complain - there are no decendants of those white slaves, no communities of europeans in North Africa - those white people were all slaughtered.
Posted by Geoff Miller at 6:13 AM on May 31
The boy was pumped!! I loved the crowd of mostly black public officials from the School system, Post Office, and Chicago`s South Side controlled government, rolling and rocking in the pews as this crazy preist did his thing.
I have been saying for years that white peole have no idea how much black people hate us. It is like we are all Japaneeze and they are Koreans.
I was proud of the smattering of white folks in the audience. Unlike the blacks they were not wearing Brooks Brothers and Glorida Vanderbilt. They mostly looked like the whites on Cops, the ones staggering out to say the *itch got what she deserved.
Every day it gets better and better. By next week the only white people who will vote for Obama are gay men, kind of like the but ugly women who supported Bill Clinton because he never culled any of them. They all knew they had a chance.
Charles B. Tiffany
Kissimmee, Florida
Posted by Charles B. Tiffany at 8:09 AM on May 31
“So I ask myself: Have White people failed this man? Have we ostracized him, ridiculed him, not given him respect?
I don’t know. But I do know that this is sad for him to go to another ethnic group in order to get strokes. Perhaps it reveals a shortcoming among Whites that we need to work on.”
Good point…this is the time to stop obsessing about what black people are doing wrong and pay attention to what white people are doing wrong….because this priest and Jeremiah Wright are monsters created by the same mindset that is hell bend on destroying society at large. I have been auditing this thing and I can tell you that it goes much deeper than skin color.
Posted by Lisette at 9:00 AM on May 31
They call this behaviour from a white man “going native.”
Posted by at 9:50 AM on May 31
“While I believe that Comrade Obama has the Democratic nomination locked, McCain is going to sweep the general election. This is simply because all of the Reds that support him most fanatically, can’t control themselves or delay their debauched revelry at multicultural “ascendancy” and “whitey’s” demise, before it even happens.”
Posted by John PM at 6:55 PM on May 30
I am starting to think that just might be the case, John.
You would think that after nearly eight years of a failed Republican presidency, Obama would be a shoo-in. After all, McCain’s views are roughly the same as Bush Junior’s.
Nevertheless, Obama’s far-left associations aren’t sitting well with swing voters. Neither are his condescending remarks about guns and religion. Sluggish economy aside, the “Reagan Democrats” in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are far more comfortable with Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama, as evidenced by the primary results in those states. I have no doubt that a number of those voters will go for McCain in the general election. The exact percentage remains to be seen.
If Obama loses, he will only have himself to blame, and no doubt a large chunk of the mainstream media will blame “racist redneck whites” for choosing McCain instead.
Posted by Old Victorian at 10:08 AM on May 31
“Indeed, let us pray for this man, and work on loving each other.”
I for one am tired of praying for those who want either to displace me or kill me. Pfleger is an abomination! He is as bad in his own way as the priests who molested the children. We strive to be Christlike while our enemies seek to destroy us. If we accept the premise that Jesus was the Messiah we must also understand that he was in an advantageous position in that he knew that after suffering on the Cross, he was coming back again in three days. None of the victims of Black violence had that advantage.
My nephew attends a Public School in New Jersey that is approximately 16% Black and that percent causes the majority of the problems around the school just as they cause the majority of problems in any town, city, state or country where they are in significant numbers. Yesterday a “YOUTH” threatened a female teacher because she corrected his behavior, told her to kiss his black a-s and was promptly sent the the appropriate assistant Principal where he went on a violent verbal tirade which climaxed with his proclaiming ” I hate all you Godamned,
F—-ing White people!”
This isn’t an anomaly. This is the way that most of them feel. One can see the hate in their eyes everywhere that you encounter them and the ones who are “nice” represent the exceptions.
What this so called “priest” did was nothing short of incitement to violence. That was evident in the characteristic jumping up and down and ear splitting screams of approval from the “Congregation” of God fearing, Jesus loving “Christians”. He should be defrocked and incarcerated so he would have more quality time with the Blacks with whom he identifies.
THe pusillanimous Whites will go out in droves to elect Obama in the hope of appeasing the black Churchillian crocodile to no avail just as almost 50 years of appeasement programs have failed. Once he’s settled in, we’ll see the real Obama emerge.
Posted by Taurus689 at 10:37 AM on May 31
“…I seems to me that the Columnbine disaster, for example, was due in part to Whites bullying and crucifying other Whites. What is there about us that causes this? Why do we need to put down other Whites in order to feel superior?
Indeed, let us pray for this man, and work on loving each other.
Posted by the Fundament at 8:56 PM on May 30 “
We put down other Whites to feel superior, because we know we’ve got the others beaten hands down. They’re not a challenge anymore, or so we think. But we’ve been ignoring our “business” for far too long, haven’t we?
Posted by Green is the new Red at 10:59 AM on May 31
Let’s see, if the old saying that “you can judge a man by the company he keeps” is true, Senator Obama’s closest confidantes include two ranting racist preachers, a 60’s terrorist bomber, a crooked Chicago financeer, and his own wife, who before last year had no pride in her country, and blames all of America’s injustices on the capitalist class (read whites).
Could this finally be the democrat candidate from hell?
Posted by Gary at 11:09 AM on May 31
So I ask myself: Have White people failed this man? Have we ostracized him, ridiculed him, not given him respect?
Absolutely. Whites have failed this man. Failed to cast him down and then out, once his evil was discovered.
Best you learn this lesson early in life. People do what they do because of free will and no other reason. There are no root causes. No life experiences that make a person what they are (at least not in our overly groomed and manicured society).
Evil people do what they do because they choose to do it. If society has “failed” its in not bringing harsh enough consequences to bear in order to make it too painful for the evil person to consider indulgence an option.
Spare the rod, spoil the child is more than just a line from the bible.
Posted by at 11:38 AM on May 31
Actually, I had to laugh when I saw the clip on TV. I think he had Hillary dead-on. Have been saying for months now that I thought she was going to be a sore loser.
Too bad he had to throw in the extra baggage about race. Hillary would have resented John Edwards or anyone else who beats her fair-and-square out of what she thought she was entitled to… but then, when addressing a black audience it’s ALWAYS about race.
Had to laugh too at the quip by White Slave. Indeed:
“The obvious reason Pfleger has turned to blacks for recognition is the intelligence factor. Only mental midgets would be swayed by his moronic rhetoric.”
Posted by Kevin at 12:26 PM on May 31
I don’t know why Cardinal George does not remove Fr. Pflakey from Saint Sabina’s for at least a year or so. Is Cardinal George afraid of him?
When Pastor Dell of Broadway Methodist Church refused to stop performing Gay marriages in Broadway Methodist Church, the Methodist Bishop suspended him from all pastoral duties for a year. Has the Roman Catholic Church in Chicago become more whishy-washy than the Methodist Church?
Posted by at 12:37 PM on May 31
As the hate white people grows bolder, the repugnance of sensible white people will consolidate. Even people like Geraldine Ferraro are complaining about racism against Whites on television. Give men like this enough rope to hang themselves. If the gulf becomes wide enough on race even the Democratic Party won’t maintain harmonious unity. The center won’t hold.
I hope White People do cry to release the grief in their hearts as to what’s been done to them. Insight could come as a way of handling traumatic emotions over the lost of their illusions about how Black People feel about them. Most Blacks only want to further their own group, not participate in a comprehensive humanitarian movement.
Obama is trying to keep a reign on his followers, but I think they have ideas of their own. The French Revolution may be the nearest historical example. He’ll have to run to the head of the mob to show he’s still in charge. But in the end the passions of the true believers will control policy.
Comfortable White liberals will play along, some laying low, as long as they can keep their “entitlements”. But, of course, no sacrifices will ever be enough once they gradually lose power. Hopefully the separation will be too wide to ever go home again. Whites will have little choice but to find their way alone in the world or disappear.
Posted by Patrick2 at 12:50 PM on May 31
I don’t know what’s going on with you white Americans.
I’m Czech living in Prague. I participated once in an US web discussion board about science-fiction, but often the discussion slipped to politics. It was some 7-8 years ago. We stumbled over the theme of races, slavery and the appropriate guilt. The other participants were mostly liberals (at that time I just tried to learn about the US political trends and shades…). They were all for affirmative action and similar measures. I, as a lon-year inhabitant of a state ruled by commies, was more of the opinion that slavery is history and bending meritocracy and hiding data and statistics does not help to anybody - weren’t the main problems of our previous regime caused by systematic lying to themselves about economy? They said that it is necessary.
I said - OK, but what about the people who came to the USA after the segregation was abolished, many of them fleeing the Central and Eastern Europe? What they have to do with the American slavery? The response was quite outlandish - they tried to make me believe, that all Europeans somehow profited from enslaved Africans. I said - How to? My ancestors were serfs, later simple small farmers, my parents were given the most affordable kind of higher education (teacher’s institutes) because the families weren’t exactly rich…so where’s my white privilege?
You will not believe me - my opponents ended at accusing my ancestors of using cotton clothes, spices and coffee…and these colonial products alone should make me feeling guilty for slavery.
Well, the cotton was probably from Egypt where local people have grown it and, um, coffee was very expensive for my ancestors, therefore they made a do with the baked rye replacement stuff…
At that stage the discussion started to be rather eerie, as I understood that they NEED me to feel guilty - they can’t tolerate a person who basically doesn’t care about that guilt trip of theirs. I was more or less forced to leave the group.
Posted by EW at 2:13 PM on May 31
Posted by at 11:38 AM on May 31
The low crime rates of Whites are due to Whites using free will? And blacks have free will, but use it less?
The “rod” is part of life experiences, which you claim have no effect anyway.
I’m sure you are familiar with the identical twins studies…
Posted by dr. joon gordoni at 2:20 PM on May 31
“Senator Obama’s closest confidantes include two ranting racist preachers, a 60’s terrorist bomber, a crooked Chicago financeer, and his own wife, who before last year had no pride in her country,”
Yeah, but if you compare them to the Bush/Clinton associates, Obama looks like Mother Theresa.
Posted by at 2:31 PM on May 31
If any man claims privledge is wrong, then let him live forever without privledge to prove his own righteousness.
If what he really means by this is he deserves the privledge he sees in another, then he is a hypocrite who should be treated as such.
Posted by True Resistance at 2:50 PM on May 31
Did anybody else notice how insulting this priest was to blacks during his tirade?
In the basest of black acting out, as a lower tier black would, he made all the gestures and voice inflections that an uneducated, ignorant black would in denigrating whites generally and Hillary in particular, in terms only a moron would appreciate.
This is what he thinks of blacks, which is far more evident than what he thinks of whites or Hillary.
In short he regards them as unintelligent buffoons who think in the lowest of terms.
And it says volumes about black intelligence because they can’t see it.
Posted by Ranger at 3:16 PM on May 31
I believe that punishment for wrongdoing is really what the wrongdoer desires. After all, it is a form of attention. Attention, in any form, is a variation of love. The opposite of love is not hate; it is stone-cold indifference.
The negative attention of punishment, however, must be followed by a positive form of attention, or it will spoil. The positive attention is the finishing stroke—the wrongdoer not only knows that you care enough to punish him; you care enough to restore him.
As a parent, I have seen this many times.
“Be not as the Gentiles, who like to lord it over each other,” said Jesus. Lording it over each other, showing the iron hand of judgment, but not the consoling hand of love.
Posted by the Fundament at 6:05 PM on May 31
” believe that punishment for wrongdoing is really what the wrongdoer desires. After all, it is a form of attention. Attention, in any form, is a variation of love. The opposite of love is not hate; it is stone-cold indifference.
—The Fundament
Yes, there is a great deal of truth in that, psychologically speaking. Good point. The psychological law is that the person always does, in the last analysis, what is perceived — consciously or unconsciously, reasonably or unreasonably — to be in his or her own best interests.
Posted by Thrasymachus at 10:42 PM on May 31
There is a lot of criticism against the Catholic Church for the acts of sexual deviancy, but this is a new one. I, as a Catholic, have never heard such a message of hate and prejudice as this from an ordained member of the cloth.
Some may have jaded views of the Catholic Church after the past scandals, and I cannot blame them, but as the Godfather to several young relatives this cannot be accepted. This slimy “priest” is a pandering hater to the nth degree, and a pure political tool. All Catholics should be offended by his continued representation of the Church and send their views to the Archdiocese:
http://www.archchicago.org/contact/contact.aspx
Demand nothing less than the slime be defrocked!
Posted by ZKR at 10:57 PM on May 31
It’s amusing to see this white man adopt the cadences and style of a black preacher. It’s not so amusing to see the sick, perverted views of this alleged “priest”. Now he’s right that Hillary got what she deserved, but that’s because Hillary is a liberal who votes for affirmative action and illegal alien amnesty — it is fun to see her finally reap the benefits of diversity. I said in another thread some time back that liberal whites will keep voting for immigration policies that make their own race a minority until the day comes when they can no longer get elected. They will stand, baffled and confused, as blacks vote for blacks, Hispanics vote for Hispanics, and there aren’t enough whites left to vote in the whites. That is starting to happen already.
Now this thief of a “priest” wants to take my 401k (like 99% of whites, I have no trust fund). There was a time when a middle class white person working in the private sector could get a defined benefit pension. Those days are gone. Only people working for the government get defined benefit pensions these days, and those jobs are increasingly restricted to non-whites. So I have to reduce my present day consumption to try to save up enough to retire some day, while my government destroys the value of my money faster than I can save it, and now this Communist thinks I owe my savings to shiftless black people. This sorry excuse for a white person is far more dangerous to me than some black punk who only wants to steal my car.
Ruined schools, dangerous neighborhoods, high taxes, anti-white employment practices — I’m still trying to figure out what benefits I’ve supposedly received as a consequence of a minority of whites having imported and owned black slaves in the past.
Posted by WR the elder at 11:59 PM on May 31
Isn’t it apropos that the two people most responsible for advancing black privilege are now objects of scorn by the black community and their leftist cohorts? I mean, they’ve always had the black voting bloc locked up, and now they’re being rejected by them.
Both Clintons are products of leftist brainwashing that propagandized them to idolize blacks. And, their fellow travelers in the mainstream media supported them faithfully, because, as we now know, they never had an electable black radical to support.
But now that they have one who is even more extreme than both Clintons, they not only quickly abandoned them they’re doing all they can to denigrate and demonize them in order to try to get their black messiah elected.
I have no doubt that these poor white dupes do not yet realize that they have been no more than useful idiots all this time. Almost every non-white who has benefitted from them somehow has jumped ship eager to drop hated whites in order to just as eagerly support a black candidate.
The Hispanic, Bill Richardson, actually owes them much, including his election as governor of New Mexico, because of offices they appointed him to, but, being white, they have no chance of support from that Mexican mestizo who perceives a non-white in the White House as being advantages to the cause of all non-whites throughout the country and Mexico as well. But he’s just one of many.
If this election cycle has revealed anything to those who have the ability to see, it is that loyalty to one’s race is the only loyalty non-whites really have, and none of them regard themselves as Americans, but as members first, last and always, of their racial tribes.
How many whites are able to pick up on this truth is unknown right now. Only the near future will tell us. But the one thing that is blaringly clear is that there won’t be any awareness from Bill and Hillary, because they are too far into their Orwellian indoctrination to notice really what has been done to them.
They’ve served their purposes. Now they are no longer needed. So as far as their leftist masters and supporters are concerned, they can take a long drive off a short bridge. The Daily Kos and MoveOn.org couldn’t care less. Personally, I can’t think of two more deserving people to get snubbed even though they’re way too far in left field to realize the extent of their rejection and to know they’ve been no more than necessary fools all along.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 12:59 AM on June 1
This incident is VERY important for white nationalism.
The unholy alliance between blacks and the left is threatening to shatter. Because, each faction seeks to dominate the country and make slaves of the rest of us, including the other factions. No other faction is more aggressive than blacks. The DNC nomination and then the general election this year, will make this pretty clear to everyone who isn’t a hypnotized zombie. When it is all over, McCain will probably be President and the different groups that make up the DNC won’t work together anymore.
This creates opportunity. Especially if blacks become violent (which we all know they will). When every major US city experiences something akin to the LA Riots, we must take the opportunity to educate white people who are still asleep as to what that means.
Once enough of us are honest and relatively open about what is happening, something can be done about it.
Posted by at 2:34 AM on June 1
There really are no words to describe the weirdness of this priest’s behavior. On the other hand, there are also no words to describe the weirdness of the artificial multiracial / multicultural society which produces this effect.
Posted by Simeon at 6:26 AM on June 1
I listened (while I tried not to throw up) to this so-called Priest’s sermon and I didn’t hear him mention God or Jesus one time in this so-called Christian church. Now I am by no means a supporter of Hillary Clinton. I despise everything she stands for but I thought ministers and pastors and priests weren’t supposed to use the pulpit for political speeches.
Posted by Gayle Sollenberger at 7:53 AM on June 1
Birds of a feather stick together, and this is most definitely true of Obama! His slew of radical Anti-American, Anti-White “shady friends” just keeps growing and growing…
Now Obama’s decided to throw his whole church under the bus; but it’s far too little, far too late! Any white American (not including White Elites and Brainwashed Students) with half a brain would know to steer clear of Obama!
This guy is an absolute nightmare!
Posted by Jackers at 10:25 AM on June 1
The Chicago A/D is doing something about it:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/archdiocese-of.html
Posted by Question Diversity at 1:53 PM on June 1
What I notice is that schools are integrated, because they are forced to be by our betters in government. But where the government can’t intrude, such as in our choice of church, we are self segregated into “black churches” and normal churches. Utterly amazing.
Posted by at 1:57 PM on June 1
Preaching in black Chicago, I believe the Pfleger is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It would interesting to see his style from early in his preaching career. I’ll bet it was entirely different.
Posted by at 2:43 PM on June 1
Someone should break it to this fool that most whites don’t have trust funds, and that the money in 401Ks comes from the paychecks of people who work. People who preach hatred of their own kind are the lowest form of life.
Posted by Mad Casper at 3:01 PM on June 1
Soon even the white libs will find out that they are white supremecists for believing in Darwin. Other than the cracking Democrat coalition we have learned that D W Griffith was prescient.
Posted by Simmons at 4:26 PM on June 1
It’s saddens me to admit this, but I can no longer look upon other White people in public with an element of trust based on a sense of racial connection. Too many Whites have betrayed our race out of selfishness, greed, and for personal gain.
I do not blame other races for the ruination America and our freedom. I blame my fellow Whites.
Posted by at 7:14 PM on June 1
Did it never occur to you that it’s just a set up? First rev. Wright circus, now this one. Nothing is accidental. Every clown serves his purpose. Televised Wordwide. THE CABAL owns the network and controls the whole show (as usual).
Confuse, divide and rule the sheeple. And the sheeple will dutifully opinionate and blog themseves to a zombi-like state where they already can not see the forest for the trees. And in this cacophony of opinions - “democracy” at work - McCain chances of becoming Bush III suddenly start looking up.
Cui bono??
Posted by Onaniy at 10:25 PM on June 1
Did it never occur to you that it’s just a set up? First rev. Wright circus, now this one. Nothing is accidental. Every clown serves his purpose. Televised Wordwide. THE CABAL owns the network and controls the whole show (as usual).
Confuse, divide and rule the sheeple. And the sheeple will dutifully opinionate and blog themseves to a zombi-like state where they already can not see the forest for the trees. And in this cacophony of opinions - “democracy” at work - McCain chances of becoming Bush III suddenly start looking up.
Cui bono??
Posted by Onaniy at 10:26 PM on June 1
This is so typical of today’s priests. They have no interest in religion whatsoever. Their sole interest is in money, power, and greed. They dwell in politics to receieve their booty. I left the church after it became a safe haven for illegals.
Posted by at 11:21 PM on June 1
To Old Victorian, regarding:
“Nevertheless, Obama’s far-left associations aren’t sitting well with swing voters. Neither are his condescending remarks about guns and religion. Sluggish economy aside, the ‘Reagan Democrats’ in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio are far more comfortable with Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama, as evidenced by the primary results in those states. I have no doubt that a number of those voters will go for McCain in the general election.”
Interesting that you bring up Michigan and Pennsylvania because I think those will be the two “blue states” that go McCain’s way and toss the election to that arrogant old fool. That is, if McCain doesn’t do anything too stupid; this of course will take a minor miracle, since he excels at attempting to “above the fray.” This little pantomime is not going to serve him well at all, it only makes him look calculating and disingenuous.
In the end, I just shake my head in nauseously bemused amazement at what two horrid choices we will be faced with in November. McCain will win this thing exactly for the reasons you note above, the weakness and radicalism of his opponent, not his “merits.” We will thus have the joy as a country, of electing the Bob Dole of 2008; all the while, the media loonies will be beating their breasts and weeping at what a “rotten racist” country this is that it abandoned “hope” and “change,” in the form of their fair-haired mulatto “savior.”
In many ways I envy the Romans of the past, as they got bread with their circuses!
*KRONOS*
Posted by John PM at 6:04 AM on June 2
(The Clintons)have served their purposes. Now they are no longer needed….The Daily Kos and MoveOn.org couldn’t care less.
You mean they are of no further use to George Soros?
Posted by EW at 6:51 AM on June 2
A wigger preacher? Now I have seen everything.
Posted by at 9:58 AM on June 2
“Interesting that you bring up Michigan and Pennsylvania…”
Interstingly, they are also the two states with the highest population of Arabs. Counterbalance?
Posted by at 10:58 AM on June 2
Sad to see all the sexist comments about Hillary. Really makes me wonder if the articulate folks on this site are as bright as I once thought. There is plenty of evidence for concern over black and illegal alien behavior in our society, but after the most through investigation in the history of the country there existed no evidence of crimes by Bill and Hillary. Nor can any intelligent observor of Bill Clintons tenure in the White House find much to fault other than foreign trade, which most were wrong about. If Hillary is a chip off the old block I’ll take her any day over a liberal Obama or Bush on steroids McCain.
Posted by mikeh at 12:37 PM on June 2
“I don’t know what’s going on with you white Americans. “
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Posted by EW at 2:13 PM on May 31
> This is an interesting post because it comes from someone in the Czech Republic. I would like to ask EW how common his point of view is there, because I lived in nearby Slovenia for over two years and found it very different than that there. The Slovenians were very nationalistic and among the many propaganda devices that had been used during the time of Yugoslavia was took the form of a film called “This is America.” In that film, they focused on poor blacks in the Southeast U.S. and their oppression. The film was from the 1950s. They used this to convince Yugos that America was a lie and that it was really a terrible place with the most ugly prejudices. While I was there in the late 1990’s, the state television loved to show Hollywood films that focus on the worst aspects of America. They played the one about the McCarthy trials over and over, as well as all sorts of non-Western style “shoot-em ups.”
Although no one in Slovenia had ever had to live next to a black or walk in a neighborhood dominated by blacks, yet they were full of condemnation for “racist America.” This was very funny because when they finally let Gypsies into their schools the result was Slovenian kids getting beat up regularly. Their reaction was to set up seperate schools for Gypsies, yet they don’t see their own hypocrisy.
I don’t know about Czechs, people I really personally like, but Slovenians were so nationalistic that no self-engrandizing myth was too ridiculous and no criticism of America too far-fetched. They are really given to all sorts of conspiracy theories. I heard everything from Glenn Miller dying in a whorehouse to the current 9/11 consipracy theory.
Slovenians are nice people to visit, but they are not particularly objective about anything when it comes to politics or patriotism.
My point is not to criticize them, but to ask (again in case I have obscured the question) if EW thinks he is a minority or do most Czechs share his views?
Oh, everyone in Slovenia knows about George Soros and all seem to like/support him.
Posted by Whiteplight at 2:52 PM on June 2
Fr. Whigger is another example of the low caliber of “priests” kicking around today.
This was a total minstrel act, and the congreNation didn’t see it. Maybe he should put on blackface.
Posted by Brendan at 4:56 PM on June 2
One brief point: If this were a white congregation with political views about an active candidate being so blatantly expressed, its tax exempt status would be pulled by the IRS today.
The rotten law that silences churches on candidates and political issues is unconstitutional, but has never been challenged. It was gotten up by LBJ because, early in his career, he lost an election and blamed a local preacher.
Prior to the American Revolution, preachers so preached against the abuses of Great Britain that the British referred to them as black robed rebel leaders. The founders never would have tolerated free speech stopping at the pulpit. It took a leftist Democrat like Johnson to use the coercion of the tax man to circumvent and supersede the Bill of Rights.
Those of you who are not friendly toward religion probably will disagree with me. Know this, however. Such a law was never intended to, and never will, silence black churches as to politics. This law was intended for conservative white churches, preachers and pulpits only, and will never be used on anything else: Not on mosques, not on mullahs, not on leftists in the pulpit, spewing political and ethnic hate (btw: any any speech touching on ethnicity is inescapably political), and certainly never on any black church, preacher, pulpit or “reverend”.
Posted by DTF at 5:35 PM on June 2
If I hear of another deluded White fool spouting off about “White privilege” or any other anti-White rantings, I swear I may throw up!
Blacks surely are the LOWEST racial group on this planet. A reality demonstrated on a daily basis in a thousand ways and in a thousand places! Nor am I referring to only Afro-Americans with this claim. Crime. Failure. Laziness. Inability to accomplish anything worthwhile on their own efforts. The list of Black failings is almost endless!
Posted by Fed Up at 1:18 PM on June 3
“Why in God’s name hasn’t Pfleger’s bishop (he IS a Catholic priest) long since forbade him to ever preach such sermons or get involved in politics again, on pain of having the priesthood torn from his back through de-frocking? Because — or so I’ve heard — the cardinal archbishop of Chicago is afraid to thus exercise his rightful authority, possibly fearing riots on the South Side.”
Yesterday, June 3, Cardinal George of the Chicago arch diocese ordered father Pfleger to take a leave of absence from his pristly duties.
Posted by at 1:40 PM on June 4
I simply view them as wolves in sheep clothing. Political wannabes that use the pulpit as a bully forum to get their message of hate against white people across. It has nothing to with God whatsoever in my view. God is a million miles away from them.
Posted by Unemployed WASP at 2:01 AM on June 5
I have never been so disgusted in my life. What in the world was “Father” Michael Pfleger thinking when he said those disgusting things about his own race? Forget the fact that he is a priest and should automatically accept that all people are created equally….and what about pride in your own race? I mean how can you accept others if you don’t take pride in yourself? And if he is truly a fan of Obama’s what the heck did he think he was going to gain by this attak against Hillary just becase she’s white?
And the saddest thing about this thing is that his congregation is behind him 100% of the way….The Cardinal needs to replace Fr. Pfleger with a priest that has respect for all races, whatever race he may be and to stay out of the politica arena!!!!
Posted by at 9:54 PM on June 6