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More than 150 students, faculty and staff members attended a forum Thursday at the College of William and Mary to hear and question an opponent of diversity and multicultural initiatives.
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His 40-minute speech, however, was followed by nearly an hour of spirited discussion with the crowd, with dozens of people raising their hands at each chance to ask a question.
During his prepared remarks, Taylor pointed to Denmark, Japan and China as examples of prosperous “homogenous” countries. Meanwhile, he said, companies spend an estimated $8 billion a year to train employees on diversity programs in the United States.
“If it were a wonderful thing,” he said of diversity, “they would seek it out.”
Taylor pointed to writings of historical figures to support his view, and he cited specific studies and some academic scholars who researched the costs of diversity initiatives and their economic yield. They also supported his view that increased diversity—specifically, racial diversity—was a weakness, he said.
Although he opposes forced integration, he said, he isn’t advocating forced segregation. Instead, people could associate freely, he said.
“Human beings are tribal and tend to feel most comfortable around people they know,” he said.
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Taylor’s remarks were frequently met with derisive laughter, while other people in the crowd simply shook their heads.
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(Posted on March 14, 2008)
Inviting ‘Race Realist’ Fine; His Ideas Aren’t
Tamara Dietrich, Daily Press (Newport News, Virginia), March 14, 2008
If only writer, lecturer and grenade-thrower Jared Taylor would use his considerable smarts for good and not for evil.
By now, this self-described “race realist” from the Northern Virginia community of Oakton, has done his spiel at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, lecturing on the ills of diversity and multiculturalism.
From what I’ve read of the guy, no doubt he articulately presented his view of a biological pecking order (sorry, but those brainiac Asians get to peck on us Caucasians) and the joys of segregation.
By now, his critics are just as appalled as they knew they would be, and his supporters are feeling smug, in particular the students who invited him to speak.
And what have we learned?
Nothing we didn’t already know.
By that, I mean that people like Taylor preach to the choir and proselytize few. They roll in, start a food fight, then bolt with a giggle and some free publicity just as the cream pies start to fly.
If he were a knuckle-dragger like any other openly white supremacist, Taylor would be easy to dismiss.
But this is a guy with chops.
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Yet he prints stuff like “Multicultural Hell Comes to America,” “The Color of Death” (about “double standards on race”), “The Color of Crime” (arguing that blacks are more prone to criminal activity than whites) and “Can Blacks be Our Allies? They could—but won’t—act in our interests, too.”
This month, Taylor published the second part of his own essay called “Integration Has Failed.” I only read Part I, which purports to explore why forced integration in public schools hasn’t worked.
From what I gather, the answer boils down to, as Taylor writes: “Whites simply do not want to send their children to school with blacks.”
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It’s not just whites. “No combination of races,” Taylor writes, “appears to integrate comfortably.”
Some thoughtful people might ask, “If so, how come, and how do we fix it?” But Taylor apparently prefers to wave a white flag (what else?) and surrender to a world divided uneasily and permanently along color lines.
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My big quibble is that his student hosts didn’t dig up a professor on that big, historic campus to cross swords with the guy.
But I will challenge Taylor’s argument that, half a century out from the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, integration has failed.
Baloney. Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.
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With all his smarts and accomplishments, Taylor should be part of the solution. Instead, he panders to and attempts to elevate a portion of the population whose solutions to race problems tend, too often, to be final ones.
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Comments
Jared Taylor does offer a solution. The only workable solution that has ever existed on earth, that hundreds of wars have been fought for and millions of people have died for. The homogeneous nation-state that loves itself and avoids the other.
Posted by Diamed at 5:50 PM on March 14
It always sends up a red flag to me when any writer beginns by
making a value judgement about the subject of the article,as Tamara Dietrich does of Mr. Taylor. Right at the beginning, before any references to the article, she says he is advocating evil. As the old saying goes,”I’ll be the judge of that.”
Posted by Bobby at 5:55 PM on March 14
Its too bad pundits such as Tamara Dietrich are unable to address the issues, but instead, must resort to hysterics and emotionalism in order to justify their bigoted preconceived positions. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Ronald
Posted by Ronald at 5:56 PM on March 14
If Miss Dietrich thinks that integration hasn’t been tried well enough, then perhaps she should lobby the College of William and Mary to change its name, to sound more integrated. Maybe “William” or “Mary” could be replaced by Mandela, Mugabe, Malcolm X, MLK, Idi Amin, Darryl Strawberry….
Posted by Question Diversity at 5:57 PM on March 14
How quickly would Tamara from the Daily Press be painfully unemployed if she referred to any other group besides “white supremists” as knuckle-draggers? I guess only her absent minded editor knows for sure.
It is truly amazing how closed-minded “reporters” of late have become.
Posted by Marcus at 5:57 PM on March 14
There is an old, sapient saw that applies to the young audience at William and Mary: When one is young, it is almost natural to be idealistically liberal, but if one is still of that mindset at age thirty-five or so, then he/she has *remained* a fool.
These young people will eventually garner enough exposure and life experience to allow them to finally know and accept the truth of Mr. Taylor’s weighty arguments. Or so I hope.
Posted by Jan L. at 5:57 PM on March 14
Never gave integration a chance? What about the homeschooling movement, the falling standards and disrespect in our schools. The white flight to the burbs don’t give me that blacks start trouble everywhere they go.
Posted by Tim Kennerly at 6:04 PM on March 14
Tamara Dietrich makes Taylor’s point. She agrees that intergration does not work when she says we never gave it a chance. No? What about the forced busing, affirmative action, etc. Those were attempts to force intergration and they did the opposite.
Posted by Frank at 6:08 PM on March 14
I’d like to see any one of these people, especially the faculty, debate in writing people on this site.
I’m sending an email around to each of them requesting exactly that.
I’m laying ten to one odds not a single one of them will take up the challenge.
And they won’t, of course, because they can’t logically support their brainwashed, programmed views.
The best we can hope to get is a little sputtering, red faced girl, or effeminate boy-man, hysterically screaming about some emotion-filled point that makes no sense. And I have no doubt this same crowd would applaud that, also.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 6:12 PM on March 14
It would have been so much better if the writer of the report on Jared Taylor’s speech had given examples of some of the questions asked, and of Taylor’s answers to them. The piece starts out on a reasonably even-handed tone, but then degenerates when the writer declares that things Taylor said were “met with derisive laughter” and that “other people in the crowd merely shook their heads.” This seems to be a deliberate attempt to make the speech appear a failure, opposed in spirit by most of those there. The only students quoted speak negatively.
Of course, without having been there, one can’t be certain just what the atmosphere there was. But I suspect there is some anti-Taylor spin involved in the report on it.
Posted by Wayne Engle at 6:41 PM on March 14
“It always sends up a red flag to me when any writer beginns by
making a value judgement about the subject of the article,as Tamara Dietrich does of Mr. Taylor.”
Posted by Bobby at 5:55 PM on March 14
I completely agree, which is why I rarely bother getting my news from the MSM anymore, as it is entirely liberal, neocon, or a hybrid of the two. Tamara Dietrich is just another foot soldier serving the interests of the liberal/neocon alliance, as evidenced by her ad hominem attacks on Jared Taylor.
Pathetic? Yes.
Surprising? No.
Posted by Old Victorian at 6:57 PM on March 14
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My big quibble is that his student hosts didn’t dig up a professor on that big, historic campus to cross swords with the guy.”
Indeed. Tamara is obviously unaware that open, reasoned debate on the issue is the very last thing that the powers-that-be want to happen.
It would blow them and their credibility clean out of the water to have their every statement challenged and disproved.
Another interesting aspect of the article is its general tone … by the first two paragraphs, the reader is exposed to the adolescent opinionated sneering of the hack journalist who has nothing of value to add to the debate.
Establishing her liberal credentials at the start, Tamara lards her piece with words like “Spiel” “Smug” and “knuckle dragger”.
Is it just me, or do other Amren readers detect a note of hysteria, here?
Posted by Sadly ... Anon. at 7:04 PM on March 14
White-Flight is a fact of multi-cultural America, both Liberals and Conservatives flee ‘diversity’. This is a well documented fact. Notice how the silly liberal mearly talked about Jared Taylors speech, she did’nt even attend. How exactly does she feel about Geraldine Ferraro’s comments on Obama? The liberal press are the ones who speak to a stagnant audience, the rest of America is still up for grabs.
She did’nt even attend Taylors speech folks! Typical ‘liberal’.
Posted by at 7:14 PM on March 14
“These young people will eventually garner enough exposure and life experience to allow them to finally know and accept the truth of Mr. Taylor’s weighty arguments. Or so I hope.”
Posted by Jan L. at 5:57 PM on March 14
Well stated, Jan L.. The key phrase, from my perspective, is “life experience.” Most of the liberals who go to expensive universities (like William and Mary) have been sheltered by their parents, both socially and economically.
Just go to some of these campuses sometime. You will see 18, 19, and 20 year-old undergraduates driving new or nearly-new BMW’s, Volvo’s, and Audi’s.
It takes a lot of money to afford those kinds of cars.
Posted by Old Victorian at 7:20 PM on March 14
Jared Taylor is right on target on diversity and multiculturalism. Allowing immigrants to bring their own culture to America rather than assimilating into America’s culture is a MAJOR recipe for disaster.
Taylor also points out an obvious point that people are more comfortable with their own kind.
Teddy Kennedy played a key role in passing the 1965 Immigration Bill that focused on Third World immigrants rather than white Europeans. Kennedy made many assurances in passing this bill, he promised, among many other things, that the country would not be flooded with millions of Third Worlders and the ethnic mix would not be upset. Every one of Kennedy’s assurances has proved false. Immigration levels did surge upward and are now running in the millions a year, most predominantly from the Third World. As we all know, the surge is now mainly from Mexico and other Latin countries. Above all, the American ethnic mix has been upset. In 1960, the U.S. population was almost 90% white. Since the 1965 Act the white population has been dropping precipitously and whites will soon be a minority race in America.
Does anyone really think that America has profited from Kennedy’s Immigration law and multiculturalism in general?
Posted by at 7:40 PM on March 14
“If only writer, lecturer and grenade-thrower Jared Taylor would use his considerable smarts for good and not for evil.”
But Comrade Dietrich, Mr. Taylor is using his considerable smarts for good; he is fighting against the most insidious evil the West has ever faced, the cult of racial diversity!
There is no compromise here, you are either for or against the genocide of the white race in this country and across the planet. To support racial “diversity” in the West, is supporting this genocide, period. The same goes for: “sanctified” integration, “holy” immigration and “blessed” miscegenation; they are part of the same genocide and are unequivocally and indefensibly evil. And you Comrade Dietrich, unlike Mr. Taylor, are on the side of this evil.
End of story!
Posted by John PM at 7:45 PM on March 14
God Bless good ole’ W&M! Haha, I was the one who invited Taylor to W&M, and I’m proud that this leftist had few good words for me.
“Baloney. Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.”
Hahahaha, utterly, ignorantly false. It’s received more resuscitative efforts than any other ideal. It’s failed. Taylor destroyed every ignorant thought that was given him. God Bless him.
Posted by John Kennedy at 7:51 PM on March 14
What is particularly curious is the ingratitude of the migrants, and that’s all they will ever be is migrants. The cold, empty stares and gruffness make for a tense city: these people lacking the brightness and cleanliness of an Anglo-American community.
Posted by Lars at 8:37 PM on March 14
Just what is going through Tamara Dietrich’s brain?
She said, “we never gave integration a chance in the first place.”
Where in the world has this woman been? Is she unaware of affirmative action, forced bussing, mandatory diverity at work, sensitivity training, et cetera? Obviously, her brain is fixated on the delusion that racism against non-whites exists virtually everywhere, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.
Posted by at 8:37 PM on March 14
Obviously Ms. Dietrich hasn’t experience the diversity that I have. Born and raised in Queens, NY, I saw how racial clashes existed on a daily basis in just one school within the New York City Public School System. Any time blacks are more than 10% of the propulation (I’m being generous), you’ve got a big, big problem. In my high school, blacks were approximately 25-30% of the population and these blacks weren’t the civilized variety (mostly from Jamaica, Hollis, St. Albans, etc.). Then, the vast majority of whites were Jewish (and, let’s fess up here folks, most Jews are not physical fighters although they don’t mind a clash in the courts). The other whites were middle class (more toward the low end than the high end - like me - but willing to defend their turf when dealing with equal numbers. Every week the cops were at the school for one reason or another related to race.
Then, I took a job which had a black as a supervisor. I was young, naieve, and willing to see just how wrong I was about “them.” I wasn’t wrong at all. He was a typical hypocritical racist affirmative action hire. He strutted his stuff through the halls of this Fortune 500 company like he owned the place. Indirectly, he did. Untouchable he was, and barely competent. He hired whites just so he could fire them. I stood my ground and challenged him when it was my turn but the stupid white pansies in management just kept making excuses. I eventually left when the opportunity arose. Keep in mind this was the 70’s.
If we were smart, we’d return to segregation. They can run their part of the country and we can run ours.
Posted by at 8:42 PM on March 14
I must say that, if it is true that the students were at least civil to Mr. Taylor, if not actually polite, those students opened a HUGE crack in diversity’s armor. By not shouting Mr. Taylor down as they did at Halifax, other students were able to hear his thoughts. No matter if they did not agree with him when they entered the lecture; the seed has been planted.
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 8:42 PM on March 14
The first writer’s article is objective and factual. But the second is all diatribe without substance.
“By now, this self-described “race realist”…has done his spiel…From what I’ve read of the guy, no doubt he articulately presented his view”
She had a chance to challenge Taylor face to face. Instead, she chose to stay clear of the guy who can articulately present his view and spend the day writing that piece.
Notice it’s totally an attack on the person, not his ideas. Evidently she can’t find any weaknesses.
“start a food fight, then bolt with a giggle and some free publicity just as the cream pies start to fly”
Nope. Your no-show denunciation proves YOU engage in self-righteous hit and run.
Posted by at 9:19 PM on March 14
“(Taylor) isn’t advocating forced segregation. Instead, people could associate freely”
I was hoping Taylor was one of these almost mythical ‘Paleoconservatives’. Someone old enough to remember a time before everything that is evil in this world was made out to be something good, and everything good in this world was dismissed as something evil. A time before crime, violence, and social pathology, ignorance and selfishness, grew out of hand for members of all races, instead it turns out he’s simply a mouthpiece for the establishment. With his belief in ‘freedom of association’ Mr. Taylor is basically saying it’s wrong for the government to disciminate against whites, but the private sector can go on disciminating against them to their hearts content. And why are these people so obsessed with segragation 50 years later? Are they ahead of us once again in their great ‘wisdom’? Preparing their arguments for when white men begin to insist on it, because they are so evil?
Posted by Dinosaur Hatchling at 9:25 PM on March 14
Perhaps the author would like to debate Mr. Taylor. It’s easy to preach to a captive audience. It isn’t so easy to preach with someone there letting all the hot air out of your arguments.
Posted by Svigor at 9:27 PM on March 14
Emotional smear piece, no facts given. Rational debate for these types is impossible due to their position being scientifically untenable.
Of course integration has failed, and has always failed. What is the proposed (unwritten) solution? Throw more money at it!
Africa is a hellhole with the worst standards of living on Earth. The solution? Have you guessed yet?
Posted by ODDL at 9:31 PM on March 14
“Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.”
This is the same argument pro-communism. Communism hasn’t worked “because it’s never been done right”.
Posted by at 10:25 PM on March 14
“Part of the solution,not part of the problem”. After 40 years you’d think the Left could up with at least ONE new slogan.
Posted by Bob Lowery at 10:26 PM on March 14
Tamara: ” And what have we learned? Nothing we didn’t already know. “
On the contrary, we learn a lot from Taylor’s interventions, especially as he gives opinions and information that are usually censored by the media. I learn a lot from this website, even though I already knew that mass immigration was a bad idea.
” By that, I mean that people like Taylor preach to the choir and proselytize few. “
According to Shawn Day, not everyone in the audience agreed with Taylor. I think he would probably be delighted to host a weekly show on PBS so as to reach a larger audience. It would certainly have a massive effect on public opinion. It is people like Tamara Dietrich who don’t want him to speak openly and who argue that open debate is useless.
Posted by Armorican at 10:29 PM on March 14
That second article was about the most childish effort coming from someone who is actually allowed to write in a ‘Grown Up’ periodical. All of his assertions and jabs were nothing more than playground prodding. The entire time I was reading his garbage I small voice inside my head was hearing chants of ‘NA NA NANA NA! I wonder if he stuck his tongue out during this rant?
Posted by P Norman at 10:39 PM on March 14
I also like her statement that the only solutions that Mr. Taylor and people like him offer are “final ones”. What an egregious comment. It’s astounding the ease with which they accuse dissenters of being genocidal Nazis especially when one looks at the statistics of Black on White murders.
Posted by Taurus689 at 10:55 PM on March 14
The main link has a “comments” section. Everyone should post there as well:
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/williamsburg/dp-local_wmdiversity_0314mar14,0,5567509.story
Posted by Frank Casey at 10:55 PM on March 14
“If he were a knuckle-dragger like any other openly white supremacist, Taylor would be easy to dismiss.”
I’ll bet Tamara takes every opportunity to denounce racist stereotypes (by others, that is).
Posted by sbuffalonative at 11:34 PM on March 14
Anyone who has to resort to the Sunday-School notions of “good and evil” (“good” is what I like, “evil” is what I don’t)to open their criticism has pretty much proven they have no argument of substance to offer right off the bat! Ms. Dietrich’s piece doesn’t even attempt to challenge any assertion made by Jared Taylor or any other “knuckle dragger” as she so predictably refers to us racial non-conformists. Her argument basically boils down to this - “Mr. Taylor and his ilk are worng…because we don’t want them to be right.” That is their central theme, upon which they slather a lengthy series of baseless over-emotional platitudes and insults…and call it a rebuttal. This is journalism??
Posted by HH at 11:47 PM on March 14
Jared Taylor speaks sense. Integration has failed, and will never will worked. I been around non whites most of my adult life, and it people like me, being white that cannot express any pride, and the preservation of my race. All the non whites, blacks, hispanics,filipeanos, and other races, and nationalities can express all the pride of the cultures, and all are very anti white in their opinions. Force integration, enforce diversity, and political correctness; and all the wars for empires, and the total collapse of our economy, will be the downfall of this nation.
Posted by at 12:13 AM on March 15
It would be interesting at this point to compare and contrast segregation with separation.
Posted by at 12:28 AM on March 15
Rather than comment on Ms. Dietrich’s inane blather I’ll accentuate the positive: An estimated 200 students and faculty at a P.C. university were exposed to the cold, hard truths about diversity.
If he won over even 3 young people in that audience it’s a victory.
Posted by Lothrop Stoddard at 12:28 AM on March 15
Never gave diversity a chance?… Please.. From forced school integration to sesame street mulatto’s to look who’s coming to dinner and 20,000 other forms of propaganda plus endless lawsuits forcing integration in the work place or recreation clubs,… about the only thing that hasn’t been legislated is forced impregnation of white women with black seed! Why don’t these people so bent on the re-distribution of white genetic wealth leave whites to associate with whom they please? why must the white race be mischeginated into ambiguity? Haven’t these people ever considered Tolerance Of Diversity?
Posted by Petrarch at 1:42 AM on March 15
“My big quibble is that his student hosts didn’t dig up a professor on that big, historic campus to cross swords with the guy.”
Actually they did, Jared made him look like a fool not once, but twice.
The man insisted that the phrase “e pluribus unum” was referring to many different races, when in actuality it was a reference to the different states. Thankfully, Jared pointed that out.
Posted by at 2:08 AM on March 15
“I must say that, if it is true that the students were at least civil to Mr. Taylor, if not actually polite, those students opened a HUGE crack in diversity’s armor.”
Yes, brother, you speak the truth. The funny thing is: as soon as Taylor’s thoughts become more public, the left must worry more and more - that’s how you know you’re dealing with the truth! The left relies on false thoughts!
Posted by John Kennedy at 3:04 AM on March 15
“Although he opposes forced integration, he said, he isn’t advocating forced segregation. Instead, people could associate freely, he said.
“Human beings are tribal and tend to feel most comfortable around people they know,” he said.
Taylor’s remarks were frequently met with derisive laughter, while other people in the crowd simply shook their heads.”
What a great juxtaposition. Mr. Taylors sensible remarks and the audiences immature and incredulous responses.
Did the Journalist or Editor do this on purpose in support of Mr. Taylor or as a way to exit the article giving him the back of their hand so to speak?
Either way it made Jared look good.
Why on EARTH would anyone object to free association?
Democracy can go in two directions. It can be a place that encourages greatness, which is generally found in Individuals, though it is the principle of greatness, of excellence, that is really being celebrated, not so much the personality of the Individual.
Or, it can lead to a massive social leveling where greatness is considered an embarrasing offence, particularly to the envy-prone who were never capable of, or interested in, controling that particular character defect. This kind of Democracy will eventually lead to, well, what we have now, a Politically Correct Police State that breeds hyper-sensitive, touchy, souls who are deeply pained by the slighest suggestion of Reality.
Are we working to remove this pathology from the Body Politic? On the contrary. We went searching for the most prominent manifestation of this disease in the political arena and, by all accounts, are prepared to put him in the Oval Office in November.
Posted by Dedalus at 3:25 AM on March 15
Years ago Casper Weinberger debated at the Oxford Union on whether or not there was any moral difference between the US and USSR. Weinberger advanced the American cause; the Oxford yahoos cheered the Soviet side. Weinberger was a gentleman, soft spoken laid back, Harvard magna cum laude and law degree, aid to General Mac Arthur, his life was moving from one success to another. He finished with a blockbuster telling the Oxford chaps that, “The Berlin Wall was there to keep people in. It is not there to keep people out.” I paraphrase.
Oxford voted in favor of Weinberger, but a lot of kids voted for the USSR as no less of an open society than the US. This is pretty much what happens when Taylor speaks. That government diversity wall is there kids to keep people from fleeing diversity. It’s not there to stop any one from enjoying diversity. Just as the Soviet Union, built on lies, crumbled, so will the multicultural diversity empire. But we need Weinberger’s and Taylor’s to take on the best of the other side.
Posted by P Noctura at 3:56 AM on March 15
“If we were smart, we’d return to segregation. They can run their part of the country and we can run ours.”
The problem is they won’t be satisfied in their part of the country. Your’s will always be better and they will want to be be with you. Every institution in your part of the country will have to be “transformed”. You won’t be allowed to keep anything for yourself. From South Africa.
Posted by at 5:15 AM on March 15
White liberals never practice what they screech.
If Miss Dietrich wants to “give integration a chance”, she should transfer her viewpoint to a college like Howard or Spelman, instead of remaining at a university founded on “white privilege”. After all, isn’t integration supposed to work both ways?
Posted by Beauregarde at 7:12 AM on March 15
“To support racial “diversity” in the West, is supporting this genocide, period.”
You can look around at what’s happened, or at the vibrant cities, and call the results ‘genocide’, however, simply promoting racism for non-whites at every turn is not in and of itself ‘genocide’. Looked at on an individual scale what’s happened has simply been discrimination against white males. Black children grow up poor because of discrimination against white men. Of course the solution to non-white children growing up poor, is then more discrimination against white men. I think it will only be when white men are denied, ‘affirmative action’, too, that the whole hate-whitey train will seriously begin to slow down in earnest. Then, hopefully, we’ll hear a lot less from the Shawn Day’s and Tamara Dietrich’s of the world. Quite a lot less. After all, racism shouldn’t be tolerated. And a wholesome society takes steps to make sure it isn’t.
Posted by Gordon Wallace III at 7:39 AM on March 15
We “didn’t give integration a chance.” Is he blind? C’mon over to my neighborhood and I’ll show you integration in crime, trash, graffiti, drugs and police reports.
White flight is huge in Cleveland, Ohio, pal. Wake up and smell the coffee. Unless you don’t feel diversity pressing you on all sides because you live in a high-tech alarm community.
Posted by at 9:54 AM on March 15
The original artilce has a public “comments” section. Just preaching to the choir won’t change anything. Liberal brainwashing survives in part because it is never challenged. Many young people have never even heard that there IS another side. Don’t let them remain in ignoramce.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/williamsburg/dp-local_wmdiversity_0314mar14,0,5567509.story
Posted by Rob Tanklin at 10:23 AM on March 15
In the past few years, I have seen blacks get more openly hostile and white people are talking about how they are mistreated by blacks more and more.
I went into a Sears store in Jackson Mississippi and needed to take a shower when I left from the HATE inflicted on me by a fifty year old black saleslady. I am polite to blacks and it is usually not too bad but this was over the top.
White flight is more alive than ever—white people can not live in peace near black people. They will not let us.
Posted by Southern Man at 10:38 AM on March 15
Notice she calls W&M a “white bread” school. How long would she have a job if she called Hampton or Howard a school that is “black as the ace of spades?”
It’s OK though. These double standards help turn more people our way.
Posted by Ari at 10:52 AM on March 15
Some thoughtful people might ask, “If so, how come, and how do we fix it?” But Taylor apparently prefers to wave a white flag (what else?) and surrender to a world divided uneasily and permanently along color lines.
So nearly half a century after the civil rights act, an unconstitutional piece of political pandering, after hundreds of billions of dollars for forced busing, court ordered desegregation, affirmative action, quotas, etc no one has tried to “fix it”! What planet does Tamara (a great American name) come from? She mentions numerous publications of Mr Taylor but does so as a kind of attack, apparently not having read them and not lowering herself to actually discussing their content.
The problem with the why don’t we fix it school is that we have done everything possible to fix it—-but you cannot fix genetics; you cannot make blacks white; you cannot change IQ or emotive character. The mind is not a blank slate and man is not infinitely malliable, two myths from the liberal egalitarian past which have been disproved over and over again but never cease to resurface in our media and in liberal universities.
How can you give a fair hearing to someone whom you describe at the first opportunity as “evil”? What does the article really amount to: several ad hominem attacks on Mr. Taylor and disinformation. One should be able to expect a little more than this, even from Tamara.
Posted by at 11:03 AM on March 15
Anonymous wrote:
“Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.” This is the same argument pro-communism. Communism hasn’t worked “because it’s never been done right”.
But modern-day communists are making that argument, that the Soviet Union went adrift and left the plantation of pure communism and became nothing more than a Russian ultra-nationalistic despotism. How they wish for the halcyon days of Lenin.
Posted by Question Diversity at 11:23 AM on March 15
“Baloney. Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.” Tamara Dietrich
Did Tamara just fall off the turnip truck? What was forty years of court-ordered school busing, affirmative action, open housing, civil rights lawsuits etc.? Was this just a timid, half-hearted prelude to real integration? What does she want government enforced miscegenation?
Posted by Sardonicus at 11:37 AM on March 15
Try the auto plants. Diversity doesn,t work and never will. Can you sat mitsubishi? Those people let the whole country know about the conditions in the auto plants. Why isn,t the U.N. trying to integrate China and Japan? Whites are the ones that lose in all this wrongheaded stuff.
Posted by at 11:39 AM on March 15
Mr. Taylor is a “grenade thrower?” I’ve never heard that term used before! Too bad she didn’t back up her claim or address many of Jared’s points, just, “Diversity is great, shutup.”
Posted by Mike at 11:47 AM on March 15
“Establishing her liberal credentials at the start, Tamara Dietrich lards her piece with words like “Spiel” “Smug” and “knuckle dragger”. Is it just me, or do other Amren readers detect a note of hysteria, here?”
Posted by Sadly … Anon.
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Hysteria yes, and I detect more about her than that, but the rest hasn’t been picked up by anyone. This journalist is only doing what is to be fully expected from her. No surprise.
Posted by voter at 11:50 AM on March 15
If only writer, lecturer and grenade-thrower Jared Taylor would use his considerable smarts for good and not for evil.
It’s pure projection.
The above quoted statement is an example of (neo-)socialist (some call it liberal-dascist) propagande gone to the extreme.
Not only do they twist the truth but they turn it literally uside down.
The evil is to engineer social parasitism (the less productive but most rebellious living at the expense of the most productive but most obedient) and upward mobility of the least fit under the pretense of diversity, multiculturalism, and “progress”.
Mr. Taylor uses his intellectual talents for the benefit of this Western society. These are the lefto-liberals (or, should I say, liberal fascists) that are serving at pleasure of evil, and have the guts to project their unethical attitudes on others.
Posted by A Reader at 12:18 PM on March 15
The larger problem revealed here is that leftists have almost exclusively taken over university faculties and reduced ‘higher learning’ into low leftist propaganda brainwashing.
Naturally the students met Taylor’s arguments with “derisive laughter” and head shaking. He was stating facts contradicting the leftist political orthodoxy the entire faculty drums into those heads every day.
Posted by Gary at 1:02 PM on March 15
I read the posts at the link provided to W&M’s Student Newspaper.
It looks like there are some actual mid to higher level debate and thought processes going on. That’s heartening. Sure beats getting mugged and run out of an auditorium on a rail by a bunch of masked Extasy users before even getting to a podium. Might I suggest UNC-CH for Mr. Taylor’s next engagement. Something along the lines of a special memorial service for Eve Carson. Nah, never happen in a million years.
Posted by Flaxen-headed Strumpet at 1:26 PM on March 15
“These young people will eventually garner enough exposure and life experience to allow them to finally know and accept the truth of Mr. Taylor’s weighty arguments. Or so I hope.”
To Jan.L.
By then it will be too late though since they would have voted in Obama etc.
Posted by at 1:59 PM on March 15
Yikes, are my knuckles sore! Marcus is right, if she called anyone on that campus other than a white male a “knuckle-dragger,” how long do you think Tamera Dietrich would be suffered to write? She doesn’t seem to possess a journalist’s temperament, does she?
Posted by Robert Binion at 2:25 PM on March 15
In the past few years, I have seen blacks get more openly hostile and white people are talking about how they are mistreated by blacks more and more.
I went into a Sears store in Jackson Mississippi and needed to take a shower when I left from the HATE inflicted on me by a fifty year old black saleslady. I am polite to blacks and it is usually not too bad but this was over the top.
White flight is more alive than ever—white people can not live in peace near black people. They will not let us.
Posted by Southern Man at 10:38 AM on March 15
Did you call the manager and complain or did you just go home and accept it? It is pointless for us to just complain about our problems on-line with like-minded individuals. We can stop this abuse if we want. In just the past year I have gotten one racist black employee fired from his job and a black youth baseball team banned from raising (i.e. begging for) money outside of Wal-Mart because of racist comments made to me and my wife. I realize that if you live somewhere overwhelmingly black like Jackson, MS or the Mississippi Delta (where I live) you just learn to accept this type of racial abuse as a part of life, but we’ve got to start fighting back.
Posted by at 2:28 PM on March 15
The Diversity Crowd thinks it’s throughly modern to be for ‘everybody’; anything less is bigotry. But, according to some religious sources, even God sends some to Hell. Personally I hope God decides on universal salvation in the end, but being a mere human being, my thinking and loyalties have to be smaller than that: something I can effect in a real way, not just fantasy. If you’re for everyone you’re for no one, because it doesn’t touch the real world that always demands choices. If you lived in ancient Greece you were either for Athens or Sparta or one of the other cities because that was the largest expansive group you could practically effect. If you were a diversitoid you were a traitor and exiled. Today (because of easy transportation, land area is less relevant) race is the largest natural loyalty rooted in nature. But shouldn’t you have a feeling for all life?
Walt Whitman’s poem ‘Song of Myself’ is about all life being One; and I agree, how could we share experiences if we weren’t all rooted in a metaphysical oneness; but left there it’s just maudlin mysticism. In the poem he catalogs a long list of how the Oneness manifests itself in the particular by various peoples, cultures, races and individual experiences that give it real life, not the emptiness of being for ‘everybody’, without the identity of souls that can only exist one at a time. Isn’t this selfish?
The People of Tibet are being selfish by not wanting the billion plus Chinese to move into their homeland. They have to be selfish if they’re going to survive. Every common sense person with any experience knows this. MacBeth was too selfish, greedy. and ambitious and met contrary payback that destroyed him. On the other extreme King Lear gave away his Kingdom out of a foolish unselfish goodness and was destroyed. There’s a time to be selfish and a time to be unselfish both as individuals and a race. There’s gray area here, people have been arguing about this for thousands of years, but it’s a fact of life. A Race can be too selfish with imperialism, slavery of other Races, genocide, not respecting the right of other races for their place in the sun; but the white race is clearly erroring on the side of being too unselfish in our time to a degree of suicidal folly.
When a person uses the word multiculturalism he pretends to be an outside observer looking at something, not being part of a culture that is one part of this multiculture. He’s objective and pure hearted scientist, no hidden agenda, outside of time, like the final truth that doesn’t take sides. Does anyone really believe this? Multiculturalism is one of those fraud words invented to hide the fact: what the word represents doesn’t exist; like using the word ghost would mean that a real ghost would come to live by the mere invention of the word. I believe in real people as they are in real life situations.
Posted by Patrick 2 at 2:46 PM on March 15
Tamara, oh my brilliant minded, immensely smart, and impeccably honest sl… I’m sorry lady! Isn’t it horrible how this site misconstrues your truth. Tamara, we must beat them all down, you and I. How? By your personal life. Proof the idiots, like I’m, that integration is THE solution of all problems.
Here is what you do:
• In a month you sell your house and move to a black neighborhood (what a nice and quiet place!).
• Your family and relatives do the same (Oh how I envy their joy!).
• Quit your job and apply to a black employer (Oh how happy he s’gonna be!).
• Marry your children to blacks (divorce them before, if necessarily ) (oh how lucky they’ll be!).
• Fraternize only with the locals (Oh how they will love you!).
• And to become blissfully happy yourself, divorce your nasty white bum and marry a gentle black gentleman (Oh what a beautiful life he will give you!).
After that you come out and shame up all the idiots, like I am.
Good luck, Tamara.
Posted by alex at 2:47 PM on March 15
But I will challenge Taylor’s argument that, half a century out from the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, integration has failed.
Baloney. Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.
> This is Tamara Deitrich’s intellectual answer? She wrote this article as a come-back to Taylor and blew whatever opportunity she created with it. But perhaps the weakness of her come-back illustrates her implied solution; forced integration is the only way! It will require a totalitarian state in order to force whites to remain in neighborhoods and schools where they are robbed, raped and murdered daily. By then, whites would definately be fighting back with force too.
But perhaps Deitrich means that integration can only come through miscegenation? I wonder who she dates or is partnered with?
Posted by Whiteplight at 3:06 PM on March 15
“…Does anyone really think that America has profited from Kennedy’s Immigration law and multiculturalism in general?…”
Posted by at 7:40 PM on March 14
As posted many time in the past: Ted Kennedy was a front man for the Hart-Celler Act of 1965—although there is plenty of blame to go around:
Here are his exact words:
“…’Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on … what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia…”
And this from Robert Kennedy:
“…’In fact, the distribution of limited quota immigration can have no significant effect on the ethnic balance of the United States…”
James Fulford writes:
“…Eugene McCarthy died of old age, but before died, he said that he and the other Senators ‘never intended to open the floodgates.’ Robert F. Kennedy didn’t live long enough to see the results of his underestimate of Asian immigration, to quote from Alien Nation, ‘tragically, Robert Kennedy himself was to be assassinated by an immigrant counted by the INS as Asian.’…”
Even the Great Society President Johnson had this to say as he signed the bill at the base of the Statue of Liberty:
… ‘This bill we sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions. It will not restructure the shape of our daily lives’…”
http://www.vdare.com/fallon/060809_promises.htm
Of course, the bill did exactly what the advocates said it wouldn’t do.
Stphen Webester’s excellent article, “Fade to Brown”, explains in detail exactly how this travesty unfolded and who is responsible. Any student of American History or anyone wondering how and why are in the sorry state we are in ( i.e., Whites quickly becoming a minority in the country they created, fought and died for) should read this article. Would that it were taught in high school and college history courses.
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/08/fade_to_brown.php
Pass It On and Spread the Word.
Bon
Posted by BonBon at 3:08 PM on March 15
……….”But, according to some religious sources, even God sends some to Hell. Personally I hope God decides on universal salvation in the end, but being a mere human being, my thinking and loyalties have to be smaller than that: something I can effect in a real way, not just fantasy.”
Posted by Patrick 2 at 2:46 PM on March 15
> Is that a mouthful, Patrick!? Which raises the difficult issue for Christians and other believers; Is heaven integrated?
Posted by Whiteplight at 3:36 PM on March 15
Her argument basically boils down to this - “Mr. Taylor and his ilk are worng…because we don’t want them to be right.” That is their central theme, upon which they slather a lengthy series of baseless over-emotional platitudes and insults…and call it a rebuttal. This is journalism??
Why, yes. Yes, it is. :D
Posted by at 3:51 PM on March 15
“Where in the world has this woman been? Is she unaware of affirmative action, forced bussing, mandatory diverity at work, sensitivity training, et cetera? Obviously, her brain is fixated on the delusion that racism against non-whites exists virtually everywhere, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.”
Most liberals live in an alternate reality where the slightest sign of rudeness or displeasure from whites toward non-whites is percieved as “rapid racism”, but overt racism from non-whites is just “lashing out at the status quo/a reaction to past injustices”
Posted by at 4:04 PM on March 15
Tamara Dietrich’s email address is tdietrich@dailypress.com
I sent her the following:
Dear Ms. Dietrich,
I assume you have a wide enough circle of friends and acquaintances that you know personally more than one white person who has been violently attacked by a black person or group. Do you consider these victims’ sufferings to be a small price to pay for the opportunity of your son to have a black best friend?
We did not suffer such attacks in the segregated South. If the Supreme Court had insisted that we make the “separate but equal” system more equal, that would have stood a much better chance of success than does our current attempt to stare down reality with good intentions.
Sincerely,
“HDumpty”
Posted by H. Dumpty at 5:10 PM on March 15
“Multiculturalism is one of those fraud words… what the word represents doesn’t exist”
On the contrary, the word has a very real meaning. Observe where multiculturalism is respected most, such as the College of William and Mary, or Howard University, or some of the states most ‘sensitive’ employers. In every building where ‘multiculturalism’ is celebrated, there can also be found naked discrimination against whites. There’s also a culture present uplifting each and every race, except for whites who are to be blamed. If there’s a neighborhood community center present, it will be prominently ‘afrocentric’ or ‘Latin’ oriented, unless in an overly white neighborhood, in which case, it too, will prominently feature the contributions of Africans and Latinos. If there’s a multicultural firehouse, let alone Howard U, there will be representation and numerous, often endless, special interest groups, filled with important voices speaking up for each and every race, except for whites who must be excluded from this all important ‘diversity’. There can be no doubt whatsoever the very real meaning of multiculturalism in each place it is put into practice.
Posted by at 6:18 PM on March 15
“Is it just me, or do other Amren readers detect a note of hysteria, here?” — Posted by Sadly … Anon.
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They should be nervous, the conditioned defense reactions, “name calling”, not listening, are the only defense that stands between the people and the truth, the only barrier protecting the egalitarian Marxist nonsense they were brainwashed with since childhood from reality. Once this defense is overcome and the people start listening those Marxists have lost and they know it.
Maybe a kind of “diversity weekends” would be a good plan of actions to awaken more people, for actual contact with the hard reality of diversity is even more effective than the force of logical arguments. Providing free all inclusive “diversity weekends” in non-white areas to those not yet accustomed to the benefits of diversity would be a great idea I think! Free weekends in places like Detroit, holiday for the whole pseudo liberal family, diverse neighborhoods and parks for the children, and a no less diverse nightlife for the adults! Reality training!
I even would donate a little to let those unaccustomed to reality first hand experience the benefits of diversity!
Posted by at 6:19 PM on March 15
Baloney. Integration hasn’t failed—we never gave integration a chance in the first place.
Here we have encapsulated the idiocy of “anti-racism.” Integration was forced on America as a purported means to an end: ending the backwardness and sociopathy of its black population through mixing the races at school from the earliest possible age. Supposedly sitting next to white children in class would assure their darker classmates that the latter were not inferior to the former, and as a consequence they could exercise their best efforts to learn the academic curriculum, which strivings they had withheld formerly in deference to their pitifully low self-esteem.
It didn’t achieve any such goal; rather, it made the American public education system one of the most expensive failures in the history of social policy.
Now according to this multicultural myrmidon, racial integration has become a goal in itself, regardless of any other pretended objective.
Posted by Zorba_the_Geek at 6:47 PM on March 15
H Dumpty at 5:10 PM on 03/15,
I emailed the woman and asked her to come on Amren and debate, in that she was so intellectually superior to everyone here. That no doubt, she’d wipe the floor with us. She’ll probably come on this site to debate us sometime around the time pigs fly.
Tom Iron…
Posted by Tom Iron... at 6:52 PM on March 15
“If only writer, lecturer and grenade-thrower Jared Taylor would use his considerable smarts for good and not for evil.”
Funny, that’s the value judgment I make of those advocating the other position.
You would think these people would realize what fools they are for advocating openness and tolerance yet calling “evil” that which they disagree with. You would also think they’d see the parallels between their own approach and that of the medieval inquisitors.
Posted by at 7:05 PM on March 15
Perhaps Tamara Dietrich would like to enlist the aid of 22 Year old, University of North Carolina student, Eve Carson, another kindred spirit who shares some of her views.
To become student body president, this young liberal woman made a number of pledges as to what she would do to promote diversity.
“One of the biggest goals of the Diversity Plan is to continue to attract members of underrepresented populations to UNC’s student population, faculty and staff. To reach out to underrepresented populations and invite them to join our community, we, the students, must show that we too welcome and appreciate the added experiences of those with different backgrounds.”
http://www.unc.edu/eve/platform.html#diversity
There’s only one problem. Eve Carson was just recently dispatched by one of the protected species who maliciously reached out to her and (probably raped) then killed her….thus, never to experience her 23rd birthday…..nor her far-off 73rd birthday celebration with grandchildren she’ll never have.
Posted by at 11:54 PM on March 15
The name Tamara is close to black. She works in Hampton Roads. She will lose her job if she supports any of Mr.Taylor’s findings. She’s part of the harassment team that the media can always count on to drum up the white guilt thing to keep the victimhood argument alive.
Posted by at 1:03 AM on March 16
Is there by any chance a video or audio recording of this event?
Posted by at 7:45 AM on March 16
“the slightest sign of rudeness or displeasure from whites toward non-whites is percieved as “rapid racism”, but overt racism from non-whites is just “lashing out at the status quo/a reaction to past injustices””
There’s more than just white-guilt here. I went to see a movie years ago, Philadelphia I think, and a character in the movie makes some kind of ‘sexist’ remark, and the entire male audience recoiled in horror - this guy was really going to get his just deserts now! The reaction was so funny! I’m surprised I didn’t burst out in laughter. I did cry during the movie tho. Bad times. Fortunately, ‘Philadelphia’ changed things for everyone.
Posted by at 8:52 AM on March 16
It seems they are against Taylor’s ideas… Personally, I’d like to hear what they are… they aren’t expressed here. They’re not content with debating in the world of ideas tho. I really think what it’s been about for awhile now is our feelings. While people of color are encouraged to speak out about their feelings, whites aren’t supposed to have any, and they make certain our feelings are never expressed. They’re like an accomplished bully who want’s to beat you up, and make you like.
Posted by Fox at 9:28 AM on March 16
In the ‘original article’ Tamara Deitrich says, “In my own circle are dear friends who are black and Hispanic. My son’s best friend, cliched as it sounds, is black.” …
Mrs. Deitrich, in a perfect world, blacks browns and yellows would all fumble over themselves, bragging of their white friends.
In a perfect world, us true believer AmRen posters would all have an important role to play. We’d be heads of university departments, or commissions on race and politics, all with the ear of government industry and the media.
We’d all get together and make up a nasty word to use on our opponents. We’d say, anyone who doesn’t believe the way we do is a ‘hatemonger’. We’d make ‘hatemongering’ the worst crime in America. Then we’d say, only whites couldn’t be hatemongers. Hardened criminals would be drug off to jail, pleading, “I’m not a hatemonger please believe me”.
Every once in awhile, someone might ponder, whether or not whites could be hatemongers too, just to make it all seem fair.
And when some poor hispanic lady sobs, “I’m not a hatemonger, I have lots of white friends”. We would all pronounce, ah ha This is the proof!. Whites are all victims of hatemongers.
In a perfect world.
For more humor go to the Mrs Dietrich’s original article. There’s a link there for ‘other columns’.
Posted by LHathaway at 9:40 AM on March 16
Well Shawn Day, I can only say that I am disappointed with your article because nowhere did you refute any of Jared’s assertions; alas, you only delivered what amounts to a series of derisive sideswipes, sans a shred of substance. Sorry old chap, nothing to argue about here because your weak piece amounts to an acquiescence by default.
Posted by cecil at 11:00 AM on March 16
Garrett Harding said something like, ‘it takes thoughtful people about five years to change their minds about anything important.’ Hopefully, the clock has begun ticking for some of the benighted progressives who attended Mr. Taylor’s talk.
p.s., If you don’t know who Garrett Harding is, check out his bio on the internet. He’s a really interesting and influential academic who came around to race realism after camping with the progressives for decades.
Posted by Crimethinker at 12:48 PM on March 16
“It seems they are against Taylor’s ideas… Personally, I’d like to hear what they are…” (Posted by Fox at 9:28 AM on March 16)
On this site’s (i.e., Amren’s) home page, in the left-hand margin, click on the link “Interviews with Jared Taylor.”
Posted by H. Dumpty at 2:54 PM on March 16
It is good that Taylor is at least still allowed to voice his arguments in public (increasingly, we are getting to where the liberals silence any opposition); however, the message needs to be given to kids while they are still young. By this point in their lives, most have been so hopelessly brainwashed, that it makes little difference. Parents need to innoculate their children against the onslaught of liberal propaganda at every turn at home, and provide factual points, such as those in literature by Francis, Taylor, and Rushton, to name a few.
Posted by at 3:25 PM on March 16
“If only writer, lecturer and grenade-thrower Jared Taylor would use his considerable smarts for good and not for evil.”
You see folks, she’s on the side of “good”. She’s not only incapable of blushing, she’s also unable to tell us what “good” and “evil” is!
“By now, this self-described “race realist” from the Northern Virginia community of Oakton, has done his spiel at the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, lecturing on the ills of diversity and multiculturalism.”
Immature sarcasm; which is the tone of the entire article, mixed with the other usual ingredients, ridicule, hostility, and sanctinmoniousness.
“From what I’ve read of the guy, no doubt he articulately presented his view of a biological pecking order (sorry, but those brainiac Asians get to peck on us Caucasians) and the joys of segregation.”
In this paragraph she gives a wonderful demonstration of exactly how sarcasm can triumph over reason at the expense of the point one is trying to make. Though, of course, she thought she was doing something else.
“By now, his critics are just as appalled as they knew they would be,” another way of writing this sentence would be, “I thought I told you not to confuse me with the facts because I’ve got my mind made up. Well you talk about facts anyway! I’m appalled that you would DARE disagree with me. And to do so using FACTS, of all things! What nerve!!!”
I’m trying to make my point using a little humor. But when you’re beat you’re beat. She is hands down much funnier than I am. The only difference is she’s not trying to be funny. She’s actually serious. And, naturally, it’s exactly her self-importance that makes her so funny.
By the way, I don’t want to speak for my fellow AR posters but, is anyone here feeling “smug”? “Concerned” about the future of free speech, “Positively fed up” “more than ready to take to the streets”, “Frustrated, Distraught, and Furious that the Press has wound up in the hands of adult-children like her”, but “smug”? No dear, that’s you you’re talking about.
How, young lady, can you write an article whose entire tone of voice is smug and not only not notice it, but turn around and attrubute your smugness to someone else? Unless you’re schizophrenic. And I have posted here and other places about how I believe that this is a characteristic of such people; and that THIS is one of the reasons they REALLY object to studies and findings on Genetics. What these people fear more than anything else is – exposure.
Good place stop. To be continued.
Posted by Dedalus at 3:36 PM on March 16
Once again people of color lead the way with ongoing crime and violence, murder assault and rape rates dozens of times higher, even for officially designated hate-crimes, and especially for interracial crimes, and lead the way in good ‘old hate and racism, racial identification, advancing racial causes, and, with lower IQ’s, seemingly take pleasure in a lifelong love affair with ignorant and backward behavior; both here and overseas, and the enlightened solution advanced, is to scold knuckle-dragging whites. Or should I say, the fear-induced solution, is to scold whites. Apparently the problem with whites for some is that we can’t quite get our knuckles to drag low enough.
Posted by at 3:38 PM on March 16
“Taylor’s remarks were frequently met with derisive laughter, while other people in the crowd simply shook their heads.”
How many people are we talking about? Was this the general reception, or are we talking about one or two nervous giggles and a few uncomprehending headshakes from a handful of the dimmer lights who couldn’t follow the argument? if the Q&A went on for an hour, it seems to me somebody was listening. Anybody attend? Can you enlighten us? The writer’s bias is obvious, so I wouldn’t take his word (even if he had said anything specific).
Posted by AnalogMan at 4:16 PM on March 16
Isn’t arguing about diversity a moot point by now? European Americans are 62% of the population and in 25 years we’ll be a minority. Given these grim facts, diversity will always be with us in one form or another. While we’re still in control we need to carve a homeland for ourselves out of what’s left of this country. If we don’t act now, it will be impossible in the next generation.
Posted by at 4:39 PM on March 16
Is there by any chance a video or audio recording of this event?
Posted by at 7:45 AM on March 16
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Yes, I have a video of it and will put it on my computer in the next few days.
Posted by John Kennedy at 4:45 PM on March 16
“Is there by any chance a video or audio recording of this event?
Posted by at 7:45 AM on March 16 “
Now there’s a GREAT Idea, Jared! You’d raise a little money for our fight, too.
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 7:56 PM on March 16
How wonderful it is to hear that a race realist is able deliver facts to race deniers without their usual opposition to freedom of speech.
Posted by factualist at 8:53 PM on March 16
Posted by at 2:28 PM on March 15
Nice post.
Yes, we should fight back. The big obstacle is getting it together, unifying. I think it will take an initial surge of a relatively small group of very, very, brave people. Brave, because in all likely hood, the first group to emerge and protest will probably be slaughtered. Not by the Police, but by marauding Blacks and Hispanics (though the Police won’t be of much help). Neither of those two groups are very Democratic even amongst themselves. They will never tolerate a demonstration of anything more than a few Whites (though even that comes with risks and is usually just a few paid for “Skinheads” and “Nazis” who frankly look like extras who just walked off the set of “A Time To Kill”).
2,000 people, like those who demonstrated somewhere in Scandanavia not so long ago, is small by any big protest standard, but would make quite a stir in this Country, without question.
That’s just a number I threw out, but you get the idea. The first few protests that are fairly large will come with enormous risk and create a situation oozing with sacrifice.
I think most Whites know this and, though they grumble, complain, and hope in their hearts for something better, are simply not willing to take that first step.
P.S. Oh, by the way, does anyone out there in AR posterland know whatever happened to that one brave White man who gave that protest crowd in Seattle the finger? I was outside of the country when that happened, on business, and I can tell you, when I saw it, I didn’t want to return.
Posted by Mal Evans at 6:55 AM on March 17
Just what is going through Tamara Dietrich’s brain?
“But is it good…for me?”
That’s what goes through their brains.
I never give ANY writer credence when they start of by mentioning ‘good and evil.’
Without a referent (which Commandment, what scripture verse from the Holy Bible, please?) all that follows it pure baloney.
Posted by Fr. John at 8:37 AM on March 17
In my high school, blacks were approximately 25-30% of the population and these blacks weren’t the civilized variety (mostly from Jamaica, Hollis, St. Albans, etc.). In my high school, blacks were approximately 25-30% of the population and these blacks weren’t the civilized variety (mostly from Jamaica, Hollis, St. Albans, etc.).
Posted by at 8:42 PM on March 14
You wouldnt by chance be talking about Hilcrest high would you? If so I know of what you speak.
“Some thoughtful people might ask, “If so, how come, and how do we fix it?”“
Once again the common mistake of the liberal. Everything involving human behavior must be “fixed” if it doesnt live up to the socialists ideological standards. When will social engineers realize humans cannot and should not be forced to do something that is not in their own best interest. It is called oppression folks. With socialists the personal is always the political.
Posted by the way at 10:18 AM on March 17
“And what have we learned?
Nothing we didn’t already know.”
Translation: “We have nothing to learn because we ALREADY know it all. We have all the questions and all the answers and people like Jared Taylor and his misled followers just don’t get it. THAT’S why they are so deserving of our Old Testament God-like wrath.”
There you go folks. Why not just hand your head to us on a platter lady?
“By that, I mean that people like Taylor preach to the choir and proselytize few.” Preach to the choir? What in the WORLD do you think you’re are doing NOW! (c. above comment on schizophrenia)
But something else, more important. Aside from the fact that from the above sentence she is announcing to us all that she is more impressed with Quantity of people, over Quality of argument; aside from the fact that if we are so few WHAT IS SHE SO WORRIED ABOUT? Aside from these considerations there’s something else. And it is, that since humans are imperfect one of the most honest things we’ve ever done as a species is admit this and attempt to structure society around the possibility of growing along spiritual lines; or, “The unexamined life is not worth living.” Well, her behavior is an example of exactly why the unexamined life is not worth living. When you forego a life of examination of self and other based on a reasonable amount of respect, empathy, and a healthy sense of limits, than you set yourself up to act MORE than human, which is clearly what she is doing. Could it be because at bottom she really feels LESS than human. Without a doubt, and this is the very source of the schizophrenic crack up in such people and why they seem and sound so unhinged and hysterical.
The important point with these people is that they are simply incapable of engaging in self-criticism WITHOUT permitting any anxiety to interfere with that self-examination. Because if that anxiety is too strong it will terminate the examination. And, since the energy doesn’t just go away, it gets buried and you have what we all know as “Projection”. This is what I meant by accusing them of Schizophrenia - it’s not too strong a word. As all of us know, Whites like her see themselves as being in competition with other Whites. So they create a system where they can engage in endless criticism OF US while they remain sheltered and protected. It is THIS very behavioral pattern that they have institutionalized; and it is this very institutionalization, and the Institutions that represent this impulse, that is falling apart at the seems. As Mr. Taylor said a couple of months ago, in so many words (unfortunately I can not place the source and am going by memory) that they are losing and know it and it is making them vindictive. My personal feelings toward this woman and many like her are those of a Doctor towards a tumor he is removing from a patient. The “patient” in this case is not so much the Body Politic, I doubt very much if that can be saved - though of course, I could be wrong. The European people, who represent a large part of our Heritage, have a long history of fragmentation and regrouping; why not in North America? No, it’s Freedom of Speech that I am interested in. In fighting for that we are fighting to preserve what makes us human, and THAT is what’s at stake here, our Humanity.
Posted by Dedalus at 11:37 AM on March 17
There is that foul word again…diversity….the downfall of civilized countries….bring back segragation….before it’s too late!!
Posted by lydia at 12:39 PM on March 17
Isn’t arguing about diversity a moot point by now? European Americans are 62% of the population and in 25 years we’ll be a minority. Given these grim facts, diversity will always be with us in one form or another. While we’re still in control we need to carve a homeland for ourselves out of what’s left of this country. If we don’t act now, it will be impossible in the next generation.
Posted by at 4:39 PM on March 16
Don’t despair. It will never be impossible. People can leave as quickly as they arrive.
Keep in mind, that most white people agree with us in their hearts. Most of the rest just go whichever way the wind blows. A lot of the very same people celebrating diversity in institutions could care less if they ever saw another non-white person again if given the choice. Right now, people have more to lose than they have to gain by going public pro-white views.
Also, nothing is inevitable and nobody can predict the future. Any of the following could bring the death of diversity: a severe economic crisis (depression not recession), a succession of 9/11 terrorist attacks, sustained economic growth in India or China, the passing of the ’60s generation, a rebellious generation of white youth, etc.
The best thing we have going for us is that truth is on our side. They are the ones who can never let up. For once they do, everything they worked for will implode. I’ve posted many times that the Soviet Union vanished almost overnight. If you were alive in 1985 and somebody told you the Soviet Union would not exist in a mere six years, you would have been dismissed as a lunatic. The Left (today’s multiculturalists) were still saying the U.S. would never win the Cold War. If a totalitarion nation armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons could not sustain its own lies, do you really think PBS liberals and Women’s Studies professors have a prayer over the longer term?
And if it ever came to armed conflict, a white population of even 25% would hand the non-white majority its rear end on a platter in short order.
Posted by Civilized Neighbor at 4:42 PM on March 17
Some of you older readers may not be aware what brainwashed little twits today’s college students are. I was sitting in a cultural anthropology class and this dirty little hippy starts talking about how the media portrays blacks as criminals. In our age of Don Imus and the Duke rape case compared with the thousands of black and white crimes going unreported I couldn’t let that slide.
Me: That’s nonsense. Anything a white person does offending blacks, look at the Richard Byrd case or Duke rape case, is front page national news. Black on white crime is something like 20 or 40 times more common and goes…
At this point, people are gasping and in shock.
Some kid: Where do you get these numbers from!
Me: Go google FBI crime statistics by race!
Some girl: That’s just the people that they catch!
Me: Actually, they did a phone survey…
Some girl: Gasps, turns to her neighbor and rolls her eyes.
At this point, the Marxist teacher jumps in and stops the discussion. Through this whole discussion you hear gasps and shocked whispers.
Keep in mind, I did nothing but quote a statistic! Its not like they had information that refuted what I was saying, they had simply been trained to know when to be outraged. We’re fighting an uphill battle, my friends.
Posted by Samuel at 5:14 PM on March 17
“Just what is going through Tamara Dietrich’s brain?
She said, “we never gave integration a chance in the first place.”
Where in the world has this woman been? Is she unaware of affirmative action, forced bussing, mandatory diverity at work, sensitivity training, et cetera? Obviously, her brain is fixated on the delusion that racism against non-whites exists virtually everywhere, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.
Posted by at 8:37 PM on March 14”
Oh, believe me, she knows! There’s a perfectly good explanation for her statement.
For her and the enforced-diversity ilk…it STILL hasn’t been enough. Hardcore nuts like her will NEVER be convinced that their pie-in-the-sky ideal might be drastically flawed, no matter what the evidence.
Posted by Dark-Star at 5:20 PM on March 17
The postmodernists have a concept called “really existing socialism.” I think we need to formulate a similar concept for diversity.
Most college-educated whites and whites who only live and work only around other whites (“Obama Whites” as I call them) have no experience with “really existing diversity.” This is why it is so hard to change their minds on this subject.
The diversity Tamara Dietrich is defending is an “idealistic” simulacrum of diversity. A poster in a college hallway of what diversity is “supposed to” look like.
We have to make this clear somehow.
Black IQ scores and crime statistics are not “real enough” to change the way most people think about diversity.
Posted by KP at 5:35 PM on March 17
“Now according to this multicultural myrmidon, racial integration has become a goal in itself, regardless of any other pretended objective.”
Posted by Zorba_the_Geek
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No matter what they claim to us, racial integration has never really been a goal unto itself. It is the first, requisite, step to miscegenation, the ultimate goal.
Posted by ghw at 7:48 PM on March 17
What we need is to collectively ADMIT that, generally, Blacks are a failed race which will never amount to much. But then that would hardly be politically correct, no matter HOW ACCURATE, right? Those mountains of evidence supporting my contention not withstanding.
Posted by Fed Up at 12:41 PM on March 18
The Amren definition of diversity: to deconstruct the target rich community with race mixing and attendant chaos.
Posted by Lars at 5:04 PM on March 18
It is astounding that the comments posted behind the news article were allowed on line. The newspaper even permitted someone to post a link to Amren.com.
Posted by John at 6:42 PM on March 20
John,
It is astounding but also encouraging. Perhaps the future isn’t so dark.
Posted by Courtney at 1:17 PM on March 22