Meet the BNP’s Blonde Bombshell—An Elegant, Utterly Respectable, Middle Class Mother of Three
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What community wouldn’t be proud to have a Donna Bailey in its midst?
Committed to civic improvement, she’s just as determined to mend broken swings in the park as she is to stop teenagers hanging around the local corner shop in the evenings.
Such is the message coming from the fellow mothers huddled in the park in question, a sorely neglected corner of the quaint West Sussex village of Upper Beeding.
The mums here call Donna—a warm, blue-eyed beautician, who offers facials at very reasonable rates—one of their own, which in itself is something of an accolade.
They tell you that Upper Beeding is actually the sort of place where you are an outsider until your family has lived here for three generations.
Donna, 41, however, has been brought into the fold in an astonishing four years, since moving here with her three children to start a new life after a painful divorce.
“She’s a marvellous person. She’s just thrown herself-into helping the community, and there aren’t a lot of people like that around these days,” explains Lorraine Blain, 38, who runs the local pub.
“She raised money for the school, helping them buy laptops, and she’s forever talking about how we’ve got to do something for the youngsters, to stop them loitering at the local convenience store every night.”
No surprises then that her fellow mums supported Donna when she told them she was thinking of standing for the parish council.
Indeed, her being appointed seemed assured, given that at most meetings she was the only one of the public who deigned to turn up to watch the proceedings.
That was, however, until a startling discovery was made by existing members of the parish council. A little bit of internet research—carried out, it seems, more through curiosity than anything else—revealed that nice blonde, friendly, efficient Donna was, in fact, a member of the British National Party, and a very active member at that.
On two previous occasions she had stood, unsuccessfully, as a district councillor in neighbouring areas, representing a party that many on the parish council—indeed the country at large—regard as, at best, racist and unsavoury and, at worst, downright dangerous.
So was this really the sort of woman the village wanted at its core? The councillors thought not, and voted to reject her application.
Then something rather unexpected—some say, worrying—happened. Donna’s friends got to hear of the matter, and were outraged.
She asked some of them to come with her to the next parish council meeting, and voice their objections.
So they did. One night just before Christmas, some 23 of them marched into the meeting, where Donna demanded another vote. They got their wish, but her application was rejected once more.
By this time, Donna and her supporters were furious. Upper Beeding had never seen anything quite like it. Abusive posters had already appeared on lampposts—likening Donna to a Nazi sympathiser.
Insults were thrown, some in the street; friendships of many years destroyed. The whole village was in uproar.
And the upshot? Donna is still demanding her place on the parish council, and has forced a by-election for the seat. Now, two opponents have emerged—desperate to keep her, and all she represents, out.
On Thursday next week, villagers go to the polls for a parish election—something that has not happened since 1974.
The mums in the park will roll their eyes and tell you that this is nothing to do with the BNP, and that they are rooting for Donna simply because they want a new swing and, one day, maybe a youth club.
Yet her opponents say that their lovely little village is on the verge of being infiltrated by the darkest force of all.
“Can’t they see what is going on here,” says the parish council’s deputy chairman Simon Birnstingl, admitting that he is afraid of how the vote will go.
“You give the BNP a toehold in a place like this today—and what happens tomorrow?”
Democracy will decide this particular political hot potato in Upper Beeding. But we should all be watching. Because next week there might be a Donna Bailey in your street, and will you want her there?
Somehow it is shocking that Donna Bailey has peach walls in her living room. “What did you expect? Swastikas and skinheads?” she jokes, as she makes coffee.
“I think you’ll find I’m quite normal really.”
And she is. She is pretty and funny and helpful and bright. Her critics would say this is what makes her more dangerous than any bile-spouting National Front lout.
She describes how she got involved with the BNP in the same breezy manner that she tells me about the rest of her life.
She was born in East London, she says. Working-class parents. Dad was a bus driver, Mum a cleaner in an old people’s home. She isn’t sure, but they were “probably” Labour supporters.
She left home to go to university, studying German and business, then worked in retail, at one time as a buyer for Debenhams in the Midlands.
She had three children, but split up from their father and moved south, settling in the “idyllic, lovely” Upper Beeding, where she retrained as a beauty therapist “so I could spend more time with the kids, really”.
So, Donna, how do we get to the point where you are a card-carrying member of the BNP?
“It’s quite simple really,” she says. “I’ve always been interested in politics. I like to watch the news and keep on top of things. I like to get involved in local things, too.”
Her first port of call was the Tory Party. Upper Beeding is a true-blue sort of place, and Donna certainly felt at home there. “But I had a look on the website and, you know, it just didn’t talk to me.
“I wasn’t particularly impressed by Cameron, and I really objected to the Tories’ policy on Europe.
“So then I looked at the BNP website.” Hang on a minute. You leapt straight from the Tories to the BNP, just like that?
“Yes. Well, actually, it was the Europe thing that did it. All the other parties want us to be part of Europe, and I think it is only a matter of time before Europe is a superstate, and I object to that.
“Oh, of course I had the same preconceptions. I thought probably exactly the same of the BNP as you do. I thought, if this is all racist, offensive stuff then I am switching right off.
“But it wasn’t. It was all perfectly sensible. I found myself agreeing with everything—especially the immigration stuff.”
Now this is curious. There is no immigration “issue” in Upper Beeding. There seem to be only three families from ethnic minorities—one Asian family run the local shop, another the Chinese takeaway, and a third the Indian restaurant.
Yet Donna is concerned about “what might happen, in the future”.
“There isn’t a problem here, but if you go a bit further into West Sussex you start to see problems. I was in Tesco the other day and I heard lots of different languages. Not just one or two.”
This is a problem? “Yes. I think people should come here and speak English. That isn’t racist. It’s common sense. I think the same about Brits who go over to Spain to live. They shouldn’t be allowed to open fish and chip shops there. It is offensive.”
She says that “of course” she wouldn’t want to send any of the local Asian families back to their country of origin, but that repatriation is a jolly good idea.
“On a voluntary basis, of course. We aren’t going to force anyone out.”
So, her story goes, she found herself popping along for BNP meetings, discovering that the others there were “quite normal too”, and somewhere along the way she convinced herself that there was nothing remotely dangerous or sinister about the party.
“It’s just the bad press,” she insists. At one point, I refer to the BNP as a party to the extreme Right and she disagrees. “I don’t think they are to the extreme Right.”
I ask her to name me a party that is further to the Right. She flounders. “Well, oh, I don’t know. I don’t know the names of them but there are some. Maybe that Combat 18. Now they are extreme.2
What about the much-publicised fact that BNP leader Nick Griffin was filmed making overtly racist remarks, rather supporting the view that the BNP’s attempts to remodel itself as an acceptable political party is nothing more than a sham?
Her response is slick, and wellpractised.
“Obviously mistakes have been made in the past, but the party has apologised for these, and moved on. That is in the past as far as I am concerned, and a part of taking the party on is about the new membership. It’s like New Labour and Old Labour. Completely different.”
And that new membership would mean you, and people like you?
“Oh yes. You’d be amazed if you went to one of our meetings. It’s all people like me.”
While Donna makes no secret of the fact that she is ambitious—when I ask her how far she would like to go up the political ladder, she says, “MP, maybe”—she is adamant that her political views should not be a bar to a place on the parish council.
“I didn’t offer myself up as a member of the BNP, so it shouldn’t be an issue at all. Actually, I think they are discriminating against me by making it an issue.
“I’m not asking people out there to agree with my politics. If I win are people going to look at the new swing and say ‘that’s a BNP swing’? Of course they aren’t.”
But once you’ve said those three words, British National Party, there is no going back. And yet she’s in an odd position here.
Every friend or supporter of Donna’s that I meet is keen to tell me that “this isn’t about the BNP” rather than accept that they are publicly backing a BNP candidate.
The consensus here is that they love Donna in spite of her politics, rather than because of them. But can such a line really be drawn? How can you divorce the personal from the political? And doesn’t someone’s political beliefs speak volumes about the sort of person they are?
Her neighbour, James Palmer, is one of those who thinks so. It seems a bit surreal that I only have to hop next door after speaking to Donna to find someone who hates everything she represents.
Intriguingly, James and his wife were once good friends of Donna and her second husband Peter (whom she met after she came to the village and who works in the public sector).
“When we moved in she came round with tea and biscuits, and we thought we’d landed on our feet with lovely new neighbours,” says James. One day, however, Donna was in the Palmer house and all the normal neighbour stuff ended.
“We were having a cup of tea and a chat and she said, quite casually: ‘Oh, we’re getting quite political in our house.’ I said: ‘Why’s that?’ And she replied: ‘I’ve joined the BNP.’
“Well, I was so shocked I couldn’t think of anything to say but: ‘I would like you to leave my house now, please.’ Donna wanted to talk about it, but to be honest I couldn’t stomach it. She went. Then I just sat there in stunned silence.”
Now he calls himself “Neighbour of the Beast”—tongue-in-cheek, granted, but he means it.
“I tried to understand. I went on the website and had a look at their policies but still, it disgusted me. My sister-in-law is Asian. If the BNP had their way she wouldn’t be in this country, and I can’t abide that.
“Yes, OK, when you look at the website, it all sounds plausible, but it is thinly-veiled racism, and I don’t think there should be a place for it in a village like this.”
He, too, questions how Donna can say that she would not use her position on the parish council for political gain.
“I know Donna and I honestly don’t think she has the best interests of the village at heart. She says she won’t use her position to promote her party, but I simply don’t believe that.”
So does he believe her very presence in this village is some sort of BNP plot?
“I have no idea, but that is what you worry about, isn’t it?”
It is a worry that is keeping Simon Birnstingl awake. As the council member who was most vociferously opposed to her application, he is very personally involved here.
Hhe made a passionate appeal for his fellow councillors to reject her, using his own emotive personal history as part of his argument.
“Maybe I shouldn’t have done that—and I had to abstain from the second vote because of it—but I told them that members of my family had been victims of the Holocaust.
The prospect of those cattle wagons is a very real one to me.
“I really have no idea if there is some organised BNP push here, but that’s what I am worried about. They are all about sanitising and making acceptable a very unpalatable set of ideals.”
Donna’s supporters scoff. “Dangerous? Donna? Of course not,” says Lorraine Blain down at the local pub, laughing at such a preposterous notion. “She’s just a mum like me who cares about what happens in this village.”
And this perhaps is the most terrifying part of all. Simon Birnstingl believes that real disenchantment with Westminster politics has brought the village to this point.
He says many locals are so far removed from the political process—and Westminster politicians so illinformed about what is actually happening in places like this—that parties like the BNP are being allowed to make themselves acceptable.
“There are real issues that are not being addressed, and people are just switching off. I think it is horrific that a lot of people just shrug when you say BNP. They honestly don’t care.”
And they don’t. I talk to Jo Horsby, a 28-year-old air hostess who plans to vote for Donna on Thursday. “If you are successful, won’t you have effectively given the BNP a vote of confidence?” I ask.
“Oh I stay out of the politics. It hasn’t got anything to do with me,” she says.
In truth, she hadn’t even heard the name BNP before all this fuss, and now it seems that what she has heard has come from Donna.
“The thing is I think Donna will do her best for the village. She has kids of her own. She cares about what happens here. And if we want the teenagers off the streets, she’s our best hope.”
So there you have it. If Donna wins on Thursday, Upper Beeding might well get its new toddler swing. But will the price be worth paying?
That is a whole new question.
  Donna Bailey—Notice the absence of a Hitler mustache. |
(Posted on February 4, 2008)
Comments
Well even though I’m not from the UK, this is typical of white people that live in sheltered communites with a few token minorities and are very naive. I liken these people to the american equivalent of people in Iowa or somewhere. These people are so gung-ho for all these differenent races and foreigners because it doesn’t affect them personally, not yet at least. Thet don’t have to contend with the crime, ethic tensions, lousy schools, overburdened hospitals and such that all of this brings and they can’t see the big picture down the road. What will their country be like when their grandkids are a minority and will happen if they sit back and do nothing. They just sit in their own lily-white world and and feel all warm and fuzzy about their enlightened tolerance.
Posted by KC at 8:37 PM on February 4
A mother who looks after her own. What a novel concept.
Posted by Flamethrower at 9:03 PM on February 4
“You give the BNP a toehold in a place like this today—and what happens tomorrow?”
It’s absolutely amazing people can be manipulated to be so skewed in their thinking they will regard anything and everyone just as their puppeteers command.
This is an excellent example of why I believe a very large percentage of whites have to be disallowed a place at our table after the big event in a few years from now.
Of course, we will be separate from our non-white enemies who hate us, but we will have to make certain people like the ones described here opposing this fine lady are rejected from our side and forced to live among the multicultural masses they love so greatly. After all, they’re worse than those who commit crimes against us because we’re white.
And punishment for their stupidity and crimes should be banishment to the wildnerness of the urban enclaves.
Posted by Ranger at 9:05 PM on February 4
How can the UK claim to be a free country when it openly and aggressively bans and persecutes people for belonging to a legitimate political party? I could understand a defensive reaction against a political party that advocates violent overthrow of the government, which the BNP does not. I could understand if the BNP were a front organization for (a hostile) foreign intelligence services, which the BNP is not. I could even understand if the BNP advocated civil disobedience and riot to destroy the peace of the country, which the BNP does not. As an American, I cannot join the BNP, but if I were British, I would.
Posted by Memphomaniac at 9:48 PM on February 4
“Well, I was so shocked I couldn’t think of anything to say but: ‘I would like you to leave my house now, please.’ Donna wanted to talk about it, but to be honest I couldn’t stomach it. She went. Then I just sat there in stunned silence.”
I wonder how quickly Donna’s neighbor’s self-righteous liberalism would last if he had to live somewhere not quite so traditional as Upper Beeding. Somewhere a little more COLORFUL. Somewhere with more than just THREE nonwhites.
Somewhere like Brixton.
Or Bradford.
Or Birmingham.
It’s all very easy to spout off about loving Multicultism when you’re insulated from it in your quaint, racially-homogenous English village, isn’t it Mr. Palmer?
Donna’s intolerantly tolerant neighbor may never have to get used to modern “Londonistan” or one of England’s Islamic “no-go” areas — but he WILL have to get used to more and more articles like this, as the BNP continues to gather momentum and mainstream respectability.
PS. Donna, will you marry me? I’ll help you raise your three white children — and even give you a few more, if you want!
Posted by The Incredible Shrinking White Man at 10:05 PM on February 4
Something is horribly wrong here, that they could paint this woman in such a bad light. I didn’t realize that the British people were so brainwashed.
Posted by kitty at 10:06 PM on February 4
I commented to this on the Daily Mail site, but they refused my comment-as well as everyone else’s too. I said that if a piece this biased was written in the United States, it would be relegated to the opinion and editorial section of the paper, if published at all. Honestly, this “Jenny Johnston” writes like a college freshmen who never got past her “emo” phase.
Posted by Jacqui in AZ at 10:25 PM on February 4
There’s got to be a balance or the diversity everyone is supposed to tolerate will be destroyed by a coerced confusion of wandering cultures that nullify any distinctness anywhere. I am no lover of anyone killing anyone, the holocausts, people commit on eachother on this globe are sickening failures of sick stages of history, but lets not forget the fearful tyranies of egalitarianists that very much promoted opposite reactions in nationalisms struggling to maintain IDENTITY. Field Marshall Montgomery was instrumental in defeating Hitler’s extreme nationalism, at the same time from what I’ve seen of his writings , he would side with Donna Bailey one this one. It seems to me the world has reacted to Hitler to such an extent that it is becoming him in the negative,..political correctness, is becoming an equal opposite reaction to him, which may well force another Hitler extreme as counter. As Heraclitus mentioned a few thousand yrs ago “hisory is a process of extreme’s reacting against eachother,… perhaps we ought release this process of its fuel by “turning the cheek” to trauma thus releasing its affect on us, allowing us to take the middle road. Allowing old nation’s to maintain a good ratio of their original stock is healthy. If nervous people keep looking for Hitlers they’ll find one.
Posted by Petrarch at 1:22 AM on February 5
If the BNP supporters were Jewish, wouldn’t that make these
BNP haters Nazis? I mean, they hate her without even knowing
her. How Nazi is that?
Posted by mikeweber at 1:27 AM on February 5
I continue to meet people that are moving over here from London.
They realize that London is a lost cause and the only solution is to leave it behind for the unintelligent and brain washed.
Posted by at 2:56 AM on February 5
kitty @ 10:06 on 02/04
Oh yes kitty, they’re every bit as looney as Americans. In some ways, they even surpass us in lunacy.
Tom Iron…
Posted by Tom Iron... at 4:38 AM on February 5
[Me thinks they dost protest too much]
Tom Iron…
Posted by Tom Iron... at 5:51 AM on February 5
“That was, however, until a startling discovery was made by existing members of the parish council. A little bit of internet research—carried out, it seems, more through curiosity than anything else—revealed that nice blonde, friendly, efficient Donna was, in fact, a member of the British National Party, and a very active member at that.”
Hey guys, check out this sentence fragment…”A little bit of internet research—carried out, it seems, more through curiosity than anything else”
Who believes that? Curious to know if it raised the eyebrows of any other fellow Amrener. Personally I think it’s Bu…, ummm…well, nonsense.
But the whole article and the whole way it “carefully” leads up to the dramatic, Ta Daaaaaaaaaaaa, “She’s the Devil incarnate!”
The lying, the concealing dishonesty, the sanctimoniousness, the delusion.
But you know what? I’ve come to realize, it’s not so much that their lies and whole way of life is getting worse, it’s that we’re waking up. Thanks to two things, Our personal experience, and the Internet. The clash between language and reality is so intense it’s creating an incoherence that only a commitment to live in Reality will cure. Maybe this is the foundation and inspiration behind Racial REALism. A desire to live in Reality.
Either way, this whole thing about compulsively demonizing all descent is just so damned hoakie. But, of course, we HAVE to take it seriously by paying attention and responding accordingly.
Posted by Dedalus at 6:06 AM on February 5
“These people are so gung-ho for all these differenent races and foreigners because it doesn’t affect them personally, not yet at least. They don’t have to contend with the crime, ethnic tensions, lousy schools, overburdened hospitals and such that all of this brings and they can’t see the big picture down the road.” KC
You are completely right KC. Some of the most pro-diversity and liberal states are those with the fewest minorities. Could it be that familiarity with these same minorities breeds contempt? Be prepared for this AR sympathizers as you flee to the “whiter” parts of the country after the election disaster.
Posted by Sardonicus at 7:50 AM on February 5
Donna Bailey, Courageous and Beautiful (inside and out).
Jenny Johnston, PC Hack.
You decide.
Posted by Ralph Emerson at 8:15 AM on February 5
I bought my first BNP membership today (student). Donna Bailey you are an inspiration.
Posted by Lawrence at 9:24 AM on February 5
I know that for me the slings and arrows of being calle Racist this and racist that faded when I relised that just by being white and wanting normalcy in my personal dealings automatically made me a racists even though I really want equality for everyone, they want preferential treatment for their few with my brothers and sisters accepting discrimination of the many at the cost of our childrens future.
In America the seeking of ever cheaper labor sources has led to the disenfranchisement of the majority and immoral wealth to the moneyed few.
Posted by pat at 10:49 AM on February 5
memphomaniac-“How can the UK claim to be a free country when it openly and aggressively bans and persecutes people for belonging to a legitimate political party?”
The DAY AFTER I put in my nomination papers to stand in a local election for the BNP I was called into the office at work, and told my my bemused employer that she had just had a call from the union (CWU) to ask them if they knew a member of the BNP was working for them. The aim was clear, they hoped that word would get around and I would be harrassed and shamed into standing down. For the next couple of days, every time I left my seat to go to the toilet or get a drink union members were putting in complaints about me to my manager.
The ruling Labour Party is funded by the trade unions of course, the trade unions are run by dyed-in-the-wool Marxists, and the trade unions also fund organisations dedicated to ‘expososing’ BNP members (eg searchlight). This is how politics works in Britain: it stinks.
Posted by Regulation18b at 1:36 PM on February 5
I’m sorry to comment on a comment, but this really has to be spoken upon and the irony is too much to ignore. I am hopeful that this comment was in jest, but you come across so many clowns in the diverse sector that is racialist thinking.
Ranger wrote of the article sentence:
“You give the BNP a toehold in a place like this today—and what happens tomorrow?”
The response of ‘punishment for their stupidity and crimes should be banishment to the wildnerness of the urban enclaves’
This is exactly the kind of mentality people are fearful of.
Posted by Oli at 2:42 PM on February 5
“Well, I was so shocked I couldn’t think of anything to say but: ‘I would like you to leave my house now, please.’ Donna wanted to talk about it, but to be honest I couldn’t stomach it. She went. Then I just sat there in stunned silence.”
………………………..
What an incredibly self-righteous prig! He obviously considers himself a model of tolerance and open-mindedness, no doubt — this nasty little, closed-minded snob! But the joke’s on him. He’s actually the very model of intolerance. He wouldn’t even talk with her, but threw her out!
Anyway, she’s better off without him. He doesn’t deserve the friendship of a fine neighbor like this. What a fool! I hope some day it comes back to bite him.
I liked Jaqui’s comments above. How interesting that the paper wouldn’t print them! So much for freedom of speech and opinion in today’s once-Great Britain. Pathetic. I can’t quite figure the angle of the shifty Daily Mail, and their two-faced reporting style. Are they trying to appear properly liberal and “shocked” while slyly slipping across right wing views nonetheless? Or are they truly such hypocrites that they are contradicting themselves in every other sentence and not even aware of it?.
Posted by ghw at 2:59 PM on February 5
What’s wrong with immigration? Imagine how dull the place would be without all those nice foreign restaurants and Mr Patel who runs the post office always stays open until 10pm. And he’s ever so nice to Mrs Green who doesn’t get out much these days. They only take the jobs no one else wants, don’t they?. Then there’s that nice doctor from Africa, or is it India? Ever so pleasant and his children are so polite..blah..blah..blah..blah
Nice, not-so-nice or downright evil - they don’t belong here!
Posted by Iain at 2:59 PM on February 5
An article was online at FOX news briegly yesterday, before I suppose it was pulled early for reasons I cannot guess. It was concerning a study that found that one out of four British children did not believe that Winston Churchill ever existed. They also did not think that many other prominent figures in British history were factual. They did believe that Sherlock Holmes was real. So Britian is well along in the complete deconstruction of their identity. In one or two generations, there will for all practicle purposes be - no England and no Britain, just an island full of competing minority groups with an ineffectual government.
Posted by Whiteplight at 3:08 PM on February 5
Donna should do this to her nice anti-white neighbors, James Palmer & Wife. Donna should rent out her house to a nice Nigerian or Congolese family.
Posted by LOGIC at 3:39 PM on February 5
Much as I welcome the English (as opposed to certain other) ethnic groups coming over, I prefer they remain back home and fight the good fight. Otherwise, their country is truly lost. This scepter’d isle, this earth, this realm, this England!!
Posted by seeker at 5:08 PM on February 5
I see white liberals (media whites) do the same thing in Britian that they do here. They’re such self-hating, smug, arrogant snobs.
Posted by at 7:01 PM on February 5
Regulation 18b, I hope that you didn’t give in to the Marxists, Have you approached the Trade Unions about harrassment, or would you get short shrift being of the wrong political creed as it were.
Incidentally, I often see your tag Regulation18b and I’ve been meaning to ask you, does 18 stand for AH as in Combat18? if so, what does the ‘b’ stand for?.
Arc.
Posted by Arcadian at 7:08 PM on February 5
If the BNP supporters were Jewish, wouldn’t that make these
BNP haters Nazis? I mean, they hate her without even knowing
her. How Nazi is that?
Posted by mikeweber at 1:27 AM on February 5
I think you’re on to something here. That innocent litle question of yours speaks volumes.
Posted by Expat Onlooker at 8:04 PM on February 5
“I wonder how quickly Donna’s neighbor’s self-righteous liberalism would last if he had to live somewhere not quite so traditional as Upper Beeding. Somewhere a little more COLORFUL. Somewhere with more than just THREE nonwhites.
Somewhere like Brixton.
Or Bradford.
Or Birmingham. “
Hey Mr.Palmer, if you ever want to vacation in the US, I have some great places where you can enjoy all the diversity you want.
Somewhere like
-South Central LA
-Harlem
-Bed-Sty
-Inner-city Detroit
-Houston’s 5th Ward
You’ll have a blast Mr.P, just make sure you wear your bullet proof vest.LOL
Posted by Jane at 8:43 PM on February 5
“I tried to understand. I went on the website and had a look at their policies but still, it disgusted me. My sister-in-law is Asian. If the BNP had their way she wouldn’t be in this country, and I can’t abide that.”
Oh yeah, the in-law argument, I’ve encountered it before. Once a non-white marries into your family, the topic of race becomes strictly off-limits forever. Some variation of Stockholm syndrome, maybe.
Posted by WaitNow at 10:17 PM on February 5
“This is exactly the kind of mentality people are fearful of.”
Posted by Oli at 2:42 PM on February 5
Your entire response was unclear and amounted to absolute nonsense. Your point of reference was invalid. And you have the gall to write of someone’s “mentality?”
Clarify what you have to say with an intelligent rebuttal, and I will be happy to answer it. But if it’s more of the same nonsense forget about it.
Posted by Ranger at 12:26 AM on February 6
“I tried to understand. I went on the website and had a look at their policies but still, it disgusted me. My sister-in-law is Asian. If the BNP had their way she wouldn’t be in this country, and I can’t abide that.”
Oh yeah, the in-law argument, I’ve encountered it before. Once a non-white marries into your family, the topic of race becomes strictly off-limits forever. Some variation of Stockholm syndrome, maybe.
Posted by WaitNow at 10:17 PM on February 5
Not in all cases WaitNow.
I was with someone for a number of years when I made the decision that we would have to break up because I realized that I did not want a mixed race child. I do want to say something on that woman’s behalf. She cried, it broke her heart, we broke up, stayed friends for a number of years after before drifting our seperate ways and different parts of the world with our current mates…and she NEVER mentioned the word “racist” once (she’s from Japan).
Later one of my relatives married someone from another part of Asia. We are friendly, there’s no hostility, but there is also no tripping over ourselves to accomodate this person either.
Posted by Ralph Emerson at 7:12 AM on February 6
“I tried to understand. I went on the website and had a look at their policies but still, it disgusted me. My sister-in-law is Asian. If the BNP had their way she wouldn’t be in this country, and I can’t abide that.”
Is this what the BNP told him or is he making an assumption based on liberal media propaganda?
Someone made a good comment and I agree. If this woman is harrassed or simply not respected she should threaten to rent her house out to a LARGE family of Africans or Muslims - or even better, see if the local council would allow her to turn it into an asylum seeker refuge.
Posted by at 8:06 AM on February 6
At first sight the most sinister aspect of this disgracefully dishonest and manipulative character assassination is that it appeared in the Daily Mail, nominally a conservative paper.
It shows, however, how much the Conservative Party (which the Daily Mail supports) is TERRIFIED of losing votes to the BNP, an inevitability in the light of its feeble response to the issue of mass immigration and the stridency of the unassimilated and unassimilable Muslim hordes in the UK.
Posted by Johnny English at 12:58 PM on February 7
“they hate her without even knowing her. How Nazi is that?”
Posted by mikeweber
Absolutely none at all, Mike.
Disapproval is not “hate”. And what about disapproval AFTER knowing them?
Posted by at 5:19 PM on February 7
The DAY AFTER I put in my nomination papers to stand in a local election for the BNP I was called into the office at work, and told [by]my bemused employer that she had just had a call from the union….. This is how politics works in Britain
Posted by Regulation18b
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What an appalling situation! It’s hard even to imagine it. Thanks for the insight. This is what would be expected in a totalitarian country — exactly the thing Britons were told they were fighting to defeat in WW2. Now, the tables have turned, and they have what they were fighting against!
Bad as things are in America - and one can get disgusted at times - we still haven’t gotten that bad. My sympathies!
Posted by ghw at 5:28 PM on February 7
I’m sorry to comment on a comment,…but you come across [as] so many clowns in the diverse sector that is racialist thinking.
Ranger wrote….
The response of ‘punishment for their stupidity and crimes should be banishment to the wildnerness of the urban enclaves’
This is exactly the kind of mentality people are fearful of.
Posted by Oli
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You need not apologize but only clarify.
I (and probably others) have no idea what you are trying to say!
Posted by browser at 5:35 PM on February 7
“Donna should do this to her nice anti-white neighbors, James Palmer & Wife. Donna should rent out her house to a nice Nigerian or Congolese family.”
Posted by LOGIC
What an EXCELLENT idea! I’m sure he’ll come to appreciate them more than he did her.
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“Nice, not-so-nice or downright evil - they don’t belong here!”
Posted by Iain
You have exactly the right idea — something that too many people miss.
While being “nice” helps a little, it is really a distraction. It only masks over the real problem: which is that they are HERE and they will ultimately change your society, your culture, and your country.
Actually, “niceness” should have nothing to do with it at all. Nice or not nice, they simply shouldn’t be here.
Posted by browser at 5:51 PM on February 7
“I tried to understand. I went on the website and had a look at their policies but still, it disgusted me. My sister-in-law is Asian. If the BNP had their way she wouldn’t be in this country, and I can’t abide that.”
Oh yeah, the in-law argument, I’ve encountered it before.
Once a non-white marries into your family, the topic of race becomes strictly off-limits forever.
Posted by WaitNow
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Exactly! There you have it.
I’ve commented on this before and probably will have occasion again. Whenever you run up against an otherwise unsolvable mystery or a strange inflexible opposition, such as this instance, generally you have only to look into the family or in the bedroom. The answer will usually be found right there, and the mystery of their antagonism will be clarified in an instant.
Whatsmore, it places such a person completely beyond the reach of reasonable argument, because it becomes for them an emotional issue rather than a logical one. When it involves the family, or sex, such a person is lost to reason.
Posted by ghw at 6:23 PM on February 7
Arc-Thanks for the question, and no, I didnt stand down. It was a good experience for me. I had been keeping quiet about my membership until then, worried that people would think I was a Nazi, but it forced me out into the open and gave me a thicker skin. Now I will argue and take abuse from anyone at any time, I don’t care! That which does not kill you makes you stronger, I suppose.
At work, I decided to rely on the sense of British fair play. Although most people arent actual BNP supporters, they instinctively rail against such underhand tactics. I told as many people at work about it as I could, and ended up with a lot of sympathy and a fair bit of support for my views. The nonsense stopped after a couple of days when the union reps realised it was making them unpopular.
Sadly, there would be no point going to the union. I am not a member and never would be. We are not welcome in most British trade unions, certainly not the ones where I work. They are more likely to be trying to get us out of our jobs, not helping us keep them. Some British unions openly favour unlimited immigration. Ironically only European legislation gives us any security in the workplace, but I understand this may soon be gone.
The Regulation18b is not a reference to Hitler. It is the name of the legislation rushed through parliament at the start of WW2 under which Oswald Mosley and hundreds of others were arrested and imrisoned without charge or trial, something of a landmark in England for people who were not preaching any sedition against the State. When I thought of the way things are in Britain now, it seemed an appropriate reflection of the current attitude of the State towards dissident thought. There is an interesting section about it all on the OswaldMosley.com website, if you are interested. Cheers!
Posted by Regulation18b at 7:30 PM on February 7
“I decided to rely on the sense of British fair play. I told as many people at work about it as I could, and ended up with a lot of sympathy and a fair bit of support for my views. The nonsense stopped after a couple of days when the union reps realised it was making them unpopular. “
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So, their guiding principles, it seems, are not anything more moral or profound than what makes them popular! How sad. You have my sympathy. Good luck.
Incidently, I found your comments about regulation 18b and Oswald Mosley to be extremely interesting. Thanks. I too had wondered about that reference. I am “only an American” but I like to follow these things nonetheless. (I will look up that website.)
Posted by ghw at 2:38 AM on February 8
Donna.. don’t worry about it. Just keep a low profile, attend the local council meetings and take notes, make no comments. When it happens, everyone will know. Then you can smile ‘I told you so’
Posted by Yorkshireman at 3:00 PM on February 8
“So Britian is well along in the complete deconstruction of their identity. In one or two generations, there will for all practicle purposes be - no England and no Britain, just an island full of competing minority groups with an ineffectual government.”
Posted by Whiteplight
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At that stage of disintegration, I imagine it would be in complete turmoil by that time — probably with NO government at all. Maybe with civil wars raging between different parts — and a few , relatively more peaceful, enclaves carved out as protectorates of the new powers: Pakistan, China, or West Africa, and guarded with their troops against the surrounding chaos. Protectorates into which the desperate native populace would be begging for entry — but without any hope unless having exotic bloodlines, or ability to pay an enormous bribe.
Posted by browser at 7:32 PM on February 8
To Regulation 18b and Yorkshireman and everyone else in England who posts here, I just want to say that I’m glad you’re posting here and that we get to hear from you.
I lived for a year in England while in College and even thought of moving there after spending a summer near Keld, Richmondshire, North Yorkshire.
It was actually a farm in the middle of nowhere. I loved it.
And it broke my heart to read about some of the things people are going through in England and how they are expected to apologize for standing up for themselves. It’s disgusting. Their Principle offenders are so ignoble it makes me sick to my stomach.
But I loved what Yorkshireman said in his post 3:00 PM on February 8.
Everyone knows that day is going to come, but I have to confess, I expected it much sooner. Still, it will come, and I hope all of us who have suffered as a result of the policies of the Politically Correct·Multi-Cultural Police State are around to see them get what’s coming to them.
In the meantime, all the best to you guys.
Posted by Dedalus at 8:09 PM on February 8