Latest GMI Poll Reveals Many African-Americans Are Not Open to Interracial Marriage
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Seattle, Wash. (PRWEB) February 22, 2008—The latest GMI Poll, powered by global market intelligence solutions provider GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.), reveals that even though most African-Americans know an interracial couple, less than half (49 percent) said they would consider marrying someone outside of their race.
GMI interviewed a representative sample of 1,285 African-Americans in December 2007. The interviews were conducted online using GMI’s panel and data collection software.
“In African-American culture, interracial marriage can be tricky. Acceptance is high, but there are minefields to overcome,” says Lawrence Martin Johnson Pratt, host of the Technocolorradioshow, a technology information FM radio show for African-Americans in New York (90.3FM WHCR). “In-laws are an issue for any couple, but African-American in-laws can be particularly critical. Racial loyalty is an issue, but generally it’s one the individual has to overcome. Many black women have an internalized stereotypical belief that non African-American men would not find them attractive. The good news is, in the last 20 years, racism, as a reason to shy away from interracial marriage, has become less and less of an issue.”
Survey data indicates that African-American males are entering into interracial relationships much more frequently. Those surveyed said in interracial relationships, the male is African-American 67 percent of the time vs. 33 percent for women.
We also asked respondents if they thought life as an interracial couple was more difficult:
* 12 percent said it was easier than they thought.
* 24 percent said it was harder than they thought.
* 38 percent said it was no different than they thought.
* 26 percent said they didn’t know.
The data on interracial relationships was part of The African-American Culture Study, which examined the following additional topics:
* The items most important to African-American social status
* Economics in African-American communities, and the reasons why there are few African-American business owners
* African-American reading habits and opinions on the publishing industry
* Condoleezza Rice and her perceived role in the African-American community
Full results for the African-American Culture Study can be found on www.theafricanamericanvoice.com.
Methodology
In December 2007, the African-American Culture Study polled 1,285 African-Americans from GMI’s proprietary panel. Interviews were conducted online using GMI’s data collection platform. The representative sample of African-Americans from whom GMI collected these data was based on the 2003 and 2004 census data detailing the demographic breakdown of the African-American population across the U.S. The census data was then used to create quota cells in age, gender and region. The final data was weighted to equalize the female to male ratio, since more females completed the survey than males in a ratio of 3-2. For further information about the African-American Culture Study methodology, please contact GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.) at info@gmi-mr.com.
[Editor’s Note: “GMI Poll: African-American Culture Study” can be downloaded as a PDF file here.]
(Posted on February 22, 2008)
Comments
If black males would stick to their black females and leave the white females alone there would be less problems with the races as this would create a better more stable family situation for the black family unit as a whole. Social experimentation is a always a failure. Of all the 3 races there is provided an equal number of males anf females to continue procreation of their individual races and this is the way it should be.
Posted by at 3:50 PM on February 22
I personally…would never accept a black into my family…that may sound racist to the liberals…but no thank you very much..I want MY family to remain WHITE AT ALL COSTS. I have a friend who’s daughter is on her second marriage to a black…she of course loves the grandkids…but sorry I couldn’t be so understanding. If any member of any of my family would choose to marry a black, or hispanic, indian, asian, ect….all ties would be cut with me I do NOT ACCEPT THAT!!! I also would never accept any of mine to marry into a muslim relationship….NO WAY!! So sorry, guess who is coming to dinner…is not a game with me…not in any way shape or form, good in my eyes..I think it stinks to high heaven!!
Posted by lydia at 4:03 PM on February 22
Although the poll numbers seem to be valid, engaging in sexual relations with white women is still a goal of millions of black men. Witness the current Survivor TV show where James, a muscular black gravedigger from Louisiana, is carrying on with a stunningly beautiful blonde from Montana. He may not want to marry her but I am sure he wants to have a good time as long as possible.
Posted by Jack Aubrey at 4:23 PM on February 22
A little over 1,200 doesn’t seem that representative.
This is also pretty ironic considering how so many US blacks have substantial white ancestry, and many would classify as mixed race if not for the one-drop rule.
Posted by at 4:28 PM on February 22
I wonder if they’ll also mention the…”possessive” nature of the black man towards black females, in regards to non-blacks.
That aside, the Media is practically beating the white American public over the head with the fact that *every race is racially-concious except American whites* - I just wish more whites had this worldview, though if they did the Media would jump up-and-down with cries of “racism!”….
Posted by Obscuratus at 5:16 PM on February 22
Given the number of White female/Black female relationships , I quesion this. In fact, I am seeing more and more White male/Balck female cuples, although they tend to be more upscale.
They may have interviewed more Black women. I have been told that Black women are more likely to take issue with interracial marriage than Black men.
Posted by Roger at 5:27 PM on February 22
Are they against the whiteness of the spouse or the idea of marriage?
Change the question to having sex, with no marriage, and lets see the answers to that.
Posted by LOGIC at 5:27 PM on February 22
I wonder about the age group they sampled. If these Blacks were 45 or older, I can see this being the case. However, I would say that Blacks in their 30s and younger (like a large number of Whites and other groups sad to say) seem to live to date , marry and fornicate with other races. It’s sad but it is true.
Posted by Thomas at 5:29 PM on February 22
“…though most African-Americans know an interracial couple, less than half (49 percent) said they would consider marrying someone outside of their race.”
So, 51% of blacks would marry outside of their race? That’s strange, I’m surprised that 51% of blacks would consider marrying anyone regardless of race. Long term relationships and responsibility don’t exactly seem to be their strong point.
Posted by Conrad R. at 6:44 PM on February 22
I have no doubt that 100 percent of African-American males would enter into interracial relationships with white women. It’s out of questioning. The real question is how many days they are going to keep these relations. What do you say? On financial support? Forget it!!!
Posted by alex at 6:46 PM on February 22
I have a friend (male)who has two half black children who are in their teens, and when we talk, he uses the n word more than Mark Fuhrman.
Posted by Peejay in Frisco at 7:41 PM on February 22
“…..though most African-Americans know an interracial couple, less than half (49 percent) said they would consider marrying someone outside of their race.”
That 51% of blacks would marry outside their race reveals the very low pride they have in their own people.
But who can blame them? They’re at the bottom of the world’s list of races who have made any significant accomplishments, and, generally, they’re easily the least attractive people on earth.
That so many black males jump at the chance to enter a relationship with a white, reveals that a large number of them agree that their own women are unattractive.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 9:10 PM on February 22
Why should they try to be “color-blind”?
“Liberal” ideologues keep using double standards (one for whites, one for minorities) since mid-1960ties, so blacks figured out that they should show some duplicity, too.
If a white girl resists sexual advances by a black boy, it’s bigorty and racism. But when a black girl will ony go out with blacks, she just wants to preserve her cultural and ethnic heritage.
It will never change.
Posted by A Reader at 9:41 PM on February 22
If anyone is interested Steve Sailer wrote a good article on this called IS LOVE COLOR-BLIND.
Posted by at 10:10 PM on February 22
Given that more than 70% of black offspring are born out of wedlock, it doesn’t appear blacks favor intra-racial marriage either.
Posted by Flamethrower at 10:14 PM on February 22
The mainstream media perpetuates this sick desire of interracial dating and marriage. Did anyone see the New York Times today! In section A there is an advertisement for Cocoran homes. The ad is on page 7. There is an interracial couple, a White male/Black female with several (4) biracial kids. The father is fixing breakfast for one of the children and the mother is feeding the youngest. The oldest is hiding behind a poll that is located between the kitchen and the living room and the young boy is wearing a cowboy hat.
The ad goes on to discuss how Cocoran is ware of the dreams, hopes and moments that define millions of Americans. The family is admittedly a telegenic one, but it made me sick to see the New York Times promoting such an ad.
No wonder society is getting more messed up by the day.
Posted by Dating White Only! at 11:06 PM on February 22
Not wanting marriage with White females is one thing. Wanting SEX with one is a totally different thing.
Millions of African males have sex with their own kind, too, without marriage and look where that has gotten them and the nation? It doesn’t help our people when wayward White gals bed down with African males and produce some mixed product.
Posted by Annoyed In Illinois at 12:47 AM on February 23
I used to disdain interracial black/white marriages. Now I have opened my eyes to a new reality. If it keeps up we can virtually, at least in America, distill the African over time so that in a few hundred years no one will recognize them. We can then “progress.”
Posted by cecil at 1:10 AM on February 23
Lydia, I strongly agree. My wife and I chose to never have children, primarily because we do not want to leave part of ourselves behind in this lost, doomed world.
Plus, I was always terrified I would spend 20 years loving and rearing my children properly, only to have my son arrive home one day and announce that he’s marrying “Robert”, or my precious little girl to come home one day and announce she’s pregnant with Tyrone’s little black baby. I would throw them out and disown both for such behavior, then live a heartbroken life. No thanks!
There are so many pressures for homosexuality, interracial relationships, and many other forms of deviancy in our society. There is no way one can protect his children from the constant bombardment of disgusting ideas and undesirable people out there.
Posted by at 1:14 AM on February 23
Given all the mixed couples I see out there (including Black women) I question this article.
Posted by Fred at 1:15 AM on February 23
“That so many black males jump at the chance to enter a relationship with a white, reveals that a large number of them agree that their own women are unattractive.”
And for what reason do so many white females do it? I’ve never seen an interracial relationship with one person.
Posted by at 2:44 AM on February 23
My nephew married a Black woman. He is 35. She is 32. They have been married for 7 years and have two four kids. Two boys and two girls. They kids are cute and well behaved. The children have two nannies. I guess one is not enough. They have attended several family reunions.
Given the fact that she is attractive, a public relations consultant and makes substantial money, a number of my family members reluctantly accept her. They younger ones actually like her quite a bit. My nephew is a corporate attorney. He is a good looking, handsome, intellignet White man. I have had several talks with him and it is clear that he genuinely loves to use his term “my beautiful Janelle.” I have never mentioned it to him, but it breaks my heart to see a White man like Mitch deciding to marry a non-White woman.
They live in an area in the southeast where there are a growing number of interracial couples according to them. I am cordial to them, but I would never tolerate my children (if I had any) marrying a non-White. NEVER!
I think that there is some sort of larger conspiracy behind this trend. Articles like this really do not tell us much. In fact, given what I see, I would say that this happening with more frequency than ever. Sad, sad, sad!
Posted by George at 2:46 AM on February 23
No matter what these surveys reveal, blacks are at the bottom of the “dating food chain” with males slightly above females, due to heavy media promotion.
There no cultures I can imagine that would actively promote mating with Africans, it is a genetic experiment doomed to regression.
When it happens, it is always met with disgust, perhaps hidden out of common politeness, even by the African “tribal members” themselves.
Posted by ZKR at 4:44 AM on February 23
I have a couple of male friends whom are married to asian females and I have absolutely no problem with it, (maybe a little envious), also acquainted with a guy who has black wife, their marriage has been a very rocky road, they have been through bankruptcy twice, 4 yrs. after they were married, he found out she had a 7 y.o. son living w/grandma, his in-laws actually steal from him, his wife sometimes vanishes for a weekend and gives no explanation. She obviously came from a different culture where morals were not valued.
Posted by tall one at 6:26 AM on February 23
Those surveyed said in interracial relationships, the male is African-American 67 percent of the time vs. 33 percent for women.
So the ratio is ony 2 to 1? Hard to believe - Seems more like about 1000 to 1.
Posted by at 9:07 AM on February 23
It’s a growing trend, mixed race couples, but look at the results. I have seen half black/half white adults with broad features, frizzy hair and pale skin. I have seen half asian/half white people with big bones, long nose and tired asian eyes. The attractive ones get alot of attention though…
Posted by joy at 10:51 AM on February 23
what a stupid study/poll… .who cares if black people - in general - are open to interracial marriage? Is it going to change the world? Probably not…
Posted by hmmm at 11:19 AM on February 23
Seattle, Wash. (PRWEB) February 22, 2008—The latest GMI Poll, powered by global market intelligence solutions provider GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.), reveals that even though most WHITE AMERICANS know an interracial couple, less than half (49 percent) said they would consider marrying someone outside of their race.
“In WHITE AMERICAN culture, interracial marriage can be tricky. Acceptance is high, but there are minefields to overcome,” says Rush Limbaugh, host of the Rush Limbaugh Show, an information AM radio show for WHITE CONSERVATIVE AMERICANS in New York…In-laws are an issue for any couple, but WHITE AMERICAN in-laws can be particularly critical. Racial loyalty is an issue, but generally it’s one the individual has to overcome…
Can you IMAGINE the OUTRAGE and SCREAMS of RACISM that would come from the BLACKS if this HAD been said by Rush or ANY white radio host?
Many black women have an internalized stereotypical belief that non African-American men would not find them attractive…
And…they would be RIGHT!
The good news is, in the last 20 years, racism, as a reason to shy away from interracial marriage, has become less and less of an issue.”…
NO!…it’s BAD NEWS…and the DEATH NELL of the WHITE RACE!…interracial dating, marriage and childbearing should STILL be ILLEGAL!
Survey data indicates that African-American males are entering into interracial relationships much more frequently. Those surveyed said in interracial relationships, the male is African-American 67 percent of the time vs. 33 percent for women…
That’s because of all the STUPID WHITE FEMALES with LOW self-esteem…and, because, like O.J., they LOVE being seen with BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMEN and, just like O.J., they like BEATING & MURDERING them!
The data on interracial relationships was part of The African- American Culture Study, which examined the following additional topics:
* The items most important to African-American social status
* Economics in African-American communities, and the reasons why there are few African-American business owners
* African-American reading habits and opinions on the publishing industry
* Condoleezza Rice and her perceived role in the African-American community
Full results for the African-American Culture Study can be found on www.theafricanamericanvoice.com.
Gee!…WHEN is their going to be a “study” of WHITE AMERICANS done?…THAT’S RIGHT!…THAT would be RACIST…
Posted by Suzan Donoghue at 12:01 PM on February 23
Tall one:
I have known a number of White couples where this has been the case as well.
Posted by Richard at 12:33 PM on February 23
“Now I have opened my eyes to a new reality. If it keeps up we can virtually, at least in America, distill the African over time so that in a few hundred years no one will recognize them. We can then “progress.””
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This is genetically and demographically not feasible.
Posted by at 12:55 PM on February 23
“I used to disdain interracial black/white marriages. Now I have opened my eyes to a new reality. If it keeps up we can virtually, at least in America, distill the African over time so that in a few hundred years no one will recognize them. We can then “progress.””
Sorta of like the way they dealt with the killer bee problem. Breed out the aggressive nature of Aficanized bees using European Queens. Brazil has had a long time to “distill” their African population and look at the mess its created. It only created a caste system for “paper bag colored” blacks to rise up above their darker skinned cohorts.
Posted by at 1:04 PM on February 23
“…I think that there is some sort of larger conspiracy behind this trend. (Emphasis added.) Articles like this really do not tell us much. In fact, given what I see, I would say that this happening with more frequency than ever. Sad, sad, sad!
Posted by George at 2:46 AM on February 23”
Of course there is! As Edward the Longshanks said in the movie Braveheart, “If we can’t get them out, we’ll breed them out.”
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 1:20 PM on February 23
Where I live, it seems to be a trend for White men to date Black women. Up until about 5 years ago, I hardly ever saw that many White male/Black female couples. Things have changed drastically since this time. In fact, I have seen more such couples than the reverse where I live.
Most of the time, the White men tend to be well-groomed, physically attractive men. They are the type of men that would make excellent boyfriends or husbands for any number of White women. Why a growing number of them have decided to date or marry Black and in some cases other non-White women is a mystery to me. I hope this is just a fad that will reverse itself.
Posted by Race Conscious White American at 1:34 PM on February 23
Dating White Only:
Yes. I saw that ad in yesterday’s New York Times! It made me so mad! This encouraging of miscegnation by our mainstream media must stop!
Posted by Samuel at 1:43 PM on February 23
2:44 am:
Good point. We Whites have to acknowledge the fact that many of our own people (not me) are all too eager (especially White females)to date, have sex and in some cases, marry non-White people.
A number of us are responsible for our curent situation.
Posted by Wake up White People! at 1:54 PM on February 23
ZKR:
You are way out there. I have dated across racial lines and before I got married, I dated a number of Black women that were/are very attractive. The same holds true for a number of White women as well. My wife is White.
In fact, I have a cousin who is married to a Black women who is heartattackingly beautiful! She is also smart and charasmatic as well. They have three lovely sons (my nephews) who are 10, 8 and 7 who my wife and I spoil to death whenever they come and visit us.
In fact, I have a number of friends (some who are divorced) who have begun to date across raial lines. This is particularly true of my White friends. I would say that more of them date Asian women than any other groups, but a number have and are dating Black women as well.
Posted by Brent at 2:05 PM on February 23
I came accross this website by accident. These comments are intersting. I am a 35 year old White woman who has always prefereed dating Black and Latino men. While I have dated White men, I find myself more satisfied with non-White men.
They seem to be more masculine in their attitudes. Secondly, at least this has been my experience, they are much better in bed than White men. Several of my White female friends have made similar comments.
I think that as America becomes more diverse and racial barriers continue to crumble, you are going to see alot more White women date and marry Black and Latino men.
Posted by Bethany at 2:11 PM on February 23
“They seem to be more masculine in their attitudes. Secondly, at least this has been my experience, they are much better in bed than White men. Several of my White female friends have made similar comments.”
-Bethany
Bethany, did your friends know Nicole Brown or Jessie Marie Davis? ;-)
I can’t decide if you are trolling with this comment or if it is really your opinion. Do you live in Manhattan or San Francisco? Maybe you should try dating white men from heterosexual parts of the country if you want someone who is “good in bed”. And really, I had a few female friends growing up who spoke less than glowingly about their erstwhile black lovers. I believe “selfish” was a word they all used. Now, that certainly isn’t true in all cases (of blacks), but I’m not the one making broad, sweeping assertions based on the evidence of a few anecdotes.
Posted by Subutai at 4:27 PM on February 23
“I think that as America becomes more diverse and racial barriers continue to crumble, you are going to see alot more White women date and marry black and latino men.” - Bethany
The ultimate bastardization of the cultured, civilized, highly accomplished White race.
What in the name of God could any White woman of substance, intelligence, and decency would have anything whatsoever to do with non-White men? Perhaps my answer is in my question.
Posted by Jan L. at 4:50 PM on February 23
I am student advisor who works at a small liberal arts college in New England. Over the past several years I have noticed a growing number of interracial couples on my campus. There are more Black women than Black men. In fact, the ratio is like 4-1, thus many of them date White and Latino men. A few date East Indian men. A number of the White women date Black, Latino and East Indian men a well. In fact, same race dating seems to be in the minority on campus. Bisexuality and homosexuality is largely accepted as well.
Some of these students seem to have no shame. I just happened to go to the student union late one evening as I was working late on campus one evening. The campus auditorium is located in the student union. My position gives me access to open the auditorium and other rooms on campus.
I happened to go and open up the auditorium for a program that was to take place that evening. I went to the front, climbed on stage and went to behind the stage. What I saw was pathetic! I saw three students, two White males and one Black female half naked and making out with one another! One of them I believe, was an intramurial wrestler.
Once they saw me they quickly put their clothes back on and rushed out of the auditorium. I am still at a loss as to how they even got in there.
I did not even bother to try to take their names down. I know the university would not have done anything about it. After all, mommy and daddy pay more than $30,000 per year to the school thus this gives their litle sex starved, interracial sex experiemtal dating brats the right to do anything they want including having sex in the campus auditorium!!!
So yes, to all of you who are saying that their is growing trend in regards to interracial relationships, sex, bisexuality and gay and lesbain lifestyles, it is happening and it makes me sick!!!
This must stop!!!!
Posted by William at 6:12 PM on February 23
Brent,
You seem to believe that your “adventures” in miscegenation are worthy of praise. You probably won’t find much here, I’m sorry to tell you.
As far as half-black/White mixed people go, the ones I have met have issues with their identity. They don’t seem completely happy until they disavow their White heritage. I’ve seen it time and time again. Yes, there may be exceptions, but when these kids hit the early teens, there are some interesting twists to the typical teenage angst.
They suffer from their parents’ desires to live in a “color blind society.” Any White who dates a Black and denies that they are consciously making a leftist political/social statement is lying. It may not be the main reason, but it is a definite component.
And am I the only one who ever noticed that some of the most hardcore anti-White African militants are fairly light-skinned? Take a look at Ron “Karenga” Everett (Kwanzaa creator) or Damali Ayo (Panhandling for Reparations creator). Guess they have more to prove.
Posted by ZKR at 7:05 PM on February 23
Question: Why do some Whites assume that Blacks guys have low self esteem when they date Whites, but do not assume that Asian women (who, as a group, are more exogamous than Black men) have low self esteem for dating Whites?
Posted by at 7:50 PM on February 23
I came accross this website by accident. These comments are intersting. I am a 35 year old White woman who has always prefereed dating Black and Latino men. While I have dated White men, I find myself more satisfied with non-White men.
They seem to be more masculine in their attitudes. Secondly, at least this has been my experience, they are much better in bed than White men. Several of my White female friends have made similar comments.
I think that as America becomes more diverse and racial barriers continue to crumble, you are going to see alot more White women date and marry Black and Latino men.
Posted by Bethany at 2:11 PM on February 23
Yea right “Bethany” or should I say Jamaal. White women who date black men always have been and always will be trash. I’m sorry but I don’t see this “trend” of interracial dating growing. At least where I live, the only women you see dating black men are hideously ugly or morbidly obese. Because of this, there is a stigma attached to dating black men - not because of the interracial aspect but because people assume that any white women with a black man is either low-class or has some sort of serious problem that makes her unattractive to white men. I think a lot of people on this site exaggerate the interracial dating problem which is understandable because it is so noticeable. If you walk into a mall and see dozens of white couples but only a couple of black/white couples, the only ones you remember are the interracial couples. Just go to a public place one day and keep track of the couples you see. You will probably notice that interracial dating is still fairly rare. And don’t think that all young whites are brainwashed either; my sister and her friends are all young teenagers who are very much part of the MTV generation and they all find interracial dating between blacks and whites to be repulsive.
Posted by at 9:02 PM on February 23
Yeah, right Bethany. You’re just here to crash the site and spread propaganda about the supposed superior masculinity of non-white males.
Anyway, the survey results don’t surprise me one bit. However, I’ve read many studies & surveys that suggest that black women are losing their inhibitions to date outside of their race with so many of their men being deadbeats or in prison. The dearth of educated and successful black men (gee, really?) has dictated a change in their mating habits although from a personal standpoint I haven’t seen very many black women dating or marrying non-black men. While black women may be dating non-blacks more than previous they are still much more racially conscious and loyal to the men of their race than are white women to white men.
The bi-racial children I’ve witnesses in my lifetime are the most depressing specimens. The children of black/white unions are often frustrated, slow witted and prone to bad behavior. Oh sure, there are exception, but not very many. Interracial unions should be legally prohibited and strict racial segregation re-instituted lest America become like Brazil or Haiti in the coming decades.
Posted by Super Dave at 9:26 PM on February 23
“Question: Why do some Whites assume that Blacks guys have low self esteem when they date Whites, but do not assume that Asian women (who, as a group, are more exogamous than Black men) have low self esteem for dating Whites?”
Answer: Many nonwhites like White features. Asians are very self conscious of their jaundice skin, eyes, height, hair, bone structure, etc. much the same way blacks are obsessed with light skin, straight hair and small noses. Asians and all nonwhites look at miscegenation as a way to breed those undesirable traits out (with limited success). If anyone has the self esteem problem it would be the White male for dating and marrying an oriental. When I was younger, I always wondered why some White guys would go out with these ugly Filipino, Vietnamese or Korean women. I’ve even asked some of them why they chose them as girlfriends or wives. The answer I got was that they were more attentive and wild in the bedroom. Somehow, that answer never quite satisfied me as these women were far from arousing. A buddy of mine in the Navy set me straight on the issue. The guys that date these women are the same ones who buy those pills, creams and pumps out of the back of magazines.
Posted by at 10:28 PM on February 23
Bethany: (assuming your not a fabricator)
You say you prefer blacks and have been dating them for years. Yet at the age of 35 you remain single and unmarried. Did it ever occur to you that maybe you are being used? Did it ever occur to you that a lot of quality White men wouldn’t go out with you because of your desire to get down with the brothers? I would also point out that STD’s are incomparably higher among blacks then any other group.
Posted by at 10:35 PM on February 23
9:02pm:
Where do you live?
I have lived in several cities. I currently live in Charlotte, North Carolina and I see a number of BEAUTIFUL White women dating Black men. Especially in clubs. These women are not obese and ugly.
The same held true in Mineanapolis, and several other medium to large cities I have lived in. While there is no doubt less than attractive White women who date Black men, the ones I have seen are at least 8’s on a scale of 1-10. I have also seen a groowing number of White males dating Black, Latino and Asian females as well.
Perhaps your city is an exception, but given my experience I have and still am seeing a good amount of interracial dating. I do not approve of it, but I cannot live in denial and say it is not happening either.
Posted by David at 2:30 AM on February 24
1:14pm:
What is wrong with being gay or lesbian?
Posted by Gay Conservative at 2:34 AM on February 24
9:02pm:
Three things:
I would say that you are in denial based on what is going on.
Secondly, your sister and her friends represent only a subset of people.
Last - Just one interracial couple is one too many.
Posted by Keep the White Race White at 3:43 AM on February 24
9:02:
Is that why so many beautiful White women date Black athletes?
Posted by Bill at 4:22 AM on February 24
There seems to be a fair amount of anti-gay and lesbian sentiment on this board.
We White nationalists must accept our gay brethern as well who are dedicated to our cause. We simply do not have the numbers to be dismissive of other Whites, regardless of sexual orientation.
Posted by White and Aware at 4:47 AM on February 24
PR WEB is not a source of news, but an advertising website for ads disguised as press releases, this is all nonsense.
Besides no one seems to be mentioning that black males (and females)don’t get married to each other to begin with, let alone anybody else. This sounds like the usual race baiting attempt at getting attention, not anything like serious news at all.
Posted by at 7:40 AM on February 24
I live in an area with many different races, ethnicities. About half of the couples I see are mixed. It is strange how so many people do this. As I said before, alot of their cute little mixed kids grow up to be unattractive adults. Just wait and see…
Posted by Joy at 7:57 AM on February 24
“Secondly, at least this has been my experience, they are much better in bed than White men.”
The struggle of civilization, seems to be to get men to work for and care for others it doesn’t really benefit them to work for - women and children. And of course to limit the number of crimes men commit, being so conditioned. One way this is accomplished by the media, I think, is by constantly selling the promise of sex. Men are selfish about sex. This is something white men can work on. Fortunately, women can be pleased, if not primarily, by means outside how large a man’s thing is.
In my lifetime white men, who are conditioned to believe they have nothing in the world to worry about, are also constantly shown the image of an average white man like themselves, paired up with one of the most beautiful women in the world. This conditioning is constant and there is no way to escape it.
We’ve also had this phony, angry, feminism for a long time now where society rallies behind it’s women, giving even more and more protection, to the only group that is already protected. I think a real change that needs to be made now is for society to begin protecting it’s male citizens too.
I used to joke around in my own mind with some of the liberals I knew ~ “we’re a lot a like, we just can’t decide if our efforts to end racism, or if our efforts to end sexism, are having the best effect”.
Most whites I think are looking for relief from what surely must be making them uncomfortable, the constant racism, but I think what they are going to get first instead is some kind of a men’s movement. White women, I think, ultimately will vote for separation of some kind as it becomes more and more obvious the future for whites in North America is extinction. Or should I say, when they realize, the future for white women, too, is something close to extinction.
Posted by honest-to-goodness race mixer at 9:18 AM on February 24
I used to disdain interracial black/white marriages. Now I have opened my eyes to a new reality. If it keeps up we can virtually, at least in America, distill the African over time so that in a few hundred years no one will recognize them. We can then “progress.”
Posted by cecil at 1:10 AM on February 23
Don’t count on the “great dream” of all liberaldom—the elimination of racism through miscegenation. It hasn’t worked in Brazil and Latin America and it won’t work here. Black immigration from Africa and Latin America will make racial distinctions more pronounced rather than less so. Look at countries like Egypt and India that have had much historical racial intermixture, do they look good to you?
Posted by Sardonicus at 11:17 AM on February 24
“If black males would stick to their black females and leave the white females alone there would be less problems with the races as this would create a better more stable family situation for the black family unit as a whole. Social experimentation is a always a failure.”
Posted by at 3:50 PM on February 22
Very well stated, anonymous poster. Let’s face it, there are too many men, especially black men, who confuse lust with love. This is a big problem today, as women are becoming more sexualized in the media. Just look at the covers of today’s fashion magazines for evidence. Women are encouraged to dress and behave like whores to get ahead, and most men go along with this, because of the need for sexual release.
Today’s permissive culture towards miscegenation is also a factor. Indeed, we are inundated with television shows and commercials that pair up black men and white women (while emasculating white men), both explicitly and implicitly.
None of this is happening by accident.
Posted by Old Victorian at 11:18 AM on February 24
“Although the poll numbers seem to be valid, engaging in sexual relations with white women is still a goal of millions of black men. Witness the current Survivor TV show where James, a muscular black gravedigger from Louisiana, is carrying on with a stunningly beautiful blonde from Montana. He may not want to marry her but I am sure he wants to have a good time as long as possible.”
Posted by Jack Aubrey at 4:23 PM on February 22
Just another reason NOT to watch television.
That kind of programming would not have been allowed to air 50 years ago, I can assure you.
25 years ago? Maybe, if the black gravedigger dressed and behaved “white”, like Sidney Poitier did in “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.”
Today, it’s anything goes. Sick.
Posted by Old Victorian at 11:52 AM on February 24
Bethany,
Wait and see for yourself. Someday you will learn. May be not….. because you will deny the facts about black men… I know the truth about black men and hispanic men. Good Luck to you.
Posted by james at 12:08 PM on February 24
The real story is buried in the artical. 72%(!!) of the respondents wanted to shop at a black owned store. CAN YOU IMAGINE the outcry if whites responded that way!
Whites measure the places they shop on the goods offered and the level of service they provide. Blacks judge the color of the skin of the guy behind the counter.
Posted by WhiteBread at 12:34 PM on February 24
Wow…you guys are so overtaken by hate. Hate is like a parasite that will eat you and ultimately destroy you from within. God created everyone…he tests us each day and laughs when we pass judgement on those who seem different based on their color. He tests us in strange ways. Sometimes we realize whether our notions were right to begin with or our minds were made to hate. He then makes us realize that love was the true nature of existence and hatred was everything negative He stood for.
Posted by Vince at 2:24 PM on February 24
Joy:
I would beg to differ. Alot of mixed raced people tend to be very attractive.
Posted by Observer at 3:14 PM on February 24
ZKR:
I never said anything aobut deserving praise, I just mentioned to you that your analysis is way off base and it is.
Posted by Brent at 3:17 PM on February 24
10:35pm, February 23rd
I was married for four years from 1999-2003. My former husband was White. We had no children and I doubt that given my age that I will have any at this point. I was totally faithful to him. The mariage, like many just did not work out.
Point 2 - I am merely stating what my personal experinece has been. Black and Latino men have been sexually superior than most White men. Of course, I have been with White men that are GREAT in bed, but they have been few and far between.
Point 3 - I am certainly not being used by anyone. I am an adult and have sex whenever I decide to. No one has ever pointed a gun to my head and forced me into having sex. It has been my choice.
Last point- In fact, I was reading an article on WEB MD.com that stated that the group with the highest number of STD’s are White men between 30-50 years old. So perhaps your statistics are misleading.
P.S. for the record, I do not have any STD’s.
Posted by Bethany at 3:28 PM on February 24
This interacial sex, dating craze is getting out of control.
I was in a restaurant last week and I heard three young White men I would say late 20 to early 30s sitting at the booth behind me discussing how they have decided for the time being to have sex with Black and other non-White women.
To be honest, I don’t think these men had much respect form women period. I cannot repeat some of the comments I heard them say. They described explicit sex acts, one night stands etc…
I was disgusted at what I heard. Fortunately, after 20 minutes, they paid their tab and left. To hear White men talk like this would have been unthinkable 20 years ago.
To all of you who are beamoaning the crisis taking place among some of our White brethern, you are correct, we have reached a state of epidemic decline.
Posted by Charles at 3:36 PM on February 24
As a 37 year old White man, I am a professor, it has been my experience that Black and Latino women and Asian women are more sexually adventurous than White women and because of this they do tend to be better sex partners.
Posted by Aaron at 3:47 PM on February 24
I am a racially conscious White male who met and fell in love with a bi-racial female at my church. At least 95 percent of her is White; 5 percent of her is black.
Jasmin had a rough upbringing not belonging to either group and is in many ways deeply troubled about her ethncity. Still she categorizes herself as “White” in surveys, causing much consternation with her family and friends.
I am 28 and Jasmine is 29. I am concerned however when/if we have a child, what will the child look like????
Posted by I love Jasmin at 4:32 PM on February 24
“Is that why so many beautiful White women date Black athletes?”
The answer to that question is something called “money.”
Posted by at 5:23 PM on February 24
Dating White Only:
Yes I saw that disgusting New York Times ad. This attempt to make us a mixed mulatto nation is pathetic!
On another note I wanted to ask any of you if you have heard about coed dormitory rooms. Not co-ed by floor. I am talking aobut roomates of the opposite sex. Apparently this is happening at a number of colleges and universities.
My sister told me that her son Jonathan(who is a sophmore) had two roomates his freshman year. One was a White male. The other was a Asian female. They lived in a suite. Needless to say, she was surprised by this. I guess they all got along fine.
I myself think that this is a bad idea. It seems that it just another effort to promote the further declining and debasement of our society.
Posted by Frank at 5:25 PM on February 24
I found the title rather amusing as most “American” black males and femles do not seem to be interested in marriage at all, much less to someone of another race. Why marry white females when you can just rape them with impunity?
Personally if either of my daughters married a black, I would disown her. I don’t care if the black was the smartest, most wonderful person in the world—-if he were Jesus Christ, I would disown her for marrying him and I am very close to my daughters. My hope is that they will simply not be in a social circle where there are blacks and therefore the issue will never come up. My experience with white females who marry blacks, with one exception, is that they are in the lowest socio-economic class, for only to those in the lowest class in such miscegenation considered acceptable.
Posted by at 5:27 PM on February 24
I am bisexual.
Black women are very masculine and black men are just ugly.
Posted by John Curd. at 7:32 PM on February 24
I am disgusted at seeing interracial dating.White men who go with Asian women are as bad as white women who date black men.Do you notice how it’s usually always whites who are the common denominator? It’s like we are a paint used to lighten up and pretty the other races.
Posted by Joy at 7:36 PM on February 24
I just finished watching the DVD “Snakes on a Plane” yesterday and I thought it was curious that there was no African-American love interest for the Samuel L. Jackson character. That curiousity was solved at the end when the SLJ character asks one of the white stewardesses out…
Posted by at 9:10 PM on February 24
Perhaps this white man is missing something.
I lived in Minneapolis for three years. The whites generally dated each other. When interracial dating did take place, it was mainly: 1) white men with Asian women, 2) two different types of nonwhite, or 3) white men or women with mixed-race people. White-black dating was quite rare, and seemed to involve as many white males as females due to Mpls’ distinction of having a relatively large African immigrant population. Although, the Somalis NEVER mixed with anybody.
And I don’t quite understand how black men are superior, unless we’re comparing black men to young naive white college men. As white men get older, our sex appeal seems to vastly increase. I’m in my mid 20s, and perhaps due to my more mature, masculine attitude, I have white women trying to hook me who are absolute stunners, and who would have never given me a second look five years ago. And attractive black women too, although they’re rather thin on the ground where I’m living now. But last year an African woman wanted to cuckold her husband with me. I refused, but all this has put paid to my insecurities regarding black men.
Posted by Brendan at 9:47 PM on February 24
9:02:
Is that why so many beautiful White women date Black athletes?
Posted by Bill at 4:22 AM on February 24
Duh…money.
Posted by at 10:13 PM on February 24
9:02pm:
Three things:
I would say that you are in denial based on what is going on.
Secondly, your sister and her friends represent only a subset of people.
Last - Just one interracial couple is one too many.
Posted by Keep the White Race White at 3:43 AM on February 24
First, I am not “in denial”. I am simply a realist and don’t believe that making exagerrated statements about interracial dating (as many on this site seem to do) is helpful. All it does is make people feel hopeless and feel like interracial dating is becoming normal which it quite simply isn’t.
Second, my sister and her friends may be a “subset” but so are white girls who date black men. They tend to follow all the trends that are popular these days so I would assume their thoughts on interracial dating are also pretty typical.
Last, I agree, one interracial couple is one too many. But I think this attitude is what causes so many one this site to tell exagerrated stories about going to the mall and “half of the couples being interracial” or seeing “beautiful” white girls with black men. It is easy to see one interracial and it stick out so much in your mind that you think it is everywhere.
And to David at 2:30 - I don’t hang out at “da club” so I take your word for what is going on there, but I have lived all over the country and I can tell you that you are simply exagerrating based on what I’ve seen. I worked at a restaraunt in a busy mall (in a town that was about half black) for years and saw thousands and thousands of couples. I could literally count on both of my hands the number of interracial couples I saw.
Posted by at 10:26 PM on February 24
I have a White co-worker who married a black women when he in twenties. He was Peace Corp worker and came home with a fever for color. He managed to father two progency, a boy and a girl, now in there early twenties. The marriage didn’t go well, infact his wife divorced him after about 5-years. He recently used his pull to get his mullato daughter an entry level job at our Fortune 500 company however she only lasted about 3-months, apparently she quit when she was told on many occasions she was expected to be at work on time. The last time I heard his son call him, Dad had to inform him that police visited him the night before asking his whearabouts as he had a warrant out for his arrest. Despite all this Dad is still a true beliver and wears I stand with Obama button.
Posted by at 10:31 PM on February 24
A few speculations on the willingness of some Whites to soil themselves with Blacks.
First, as we AmRen posters all know, the only publicly accepted view on Blacks in this country is that they are intellectual equal to Whites in every way, and better in some other aspects. The only tolerated explanation for their failures is White racism. If a White believes that, there’s no logical reason to rule them out.
Second, those activities at which Blacks excel, sports, dancing, sexual aggression, and jive-mouth, are precisely the things that our debased popular culture values most. We’ve all seen White boys try to make themselves more appealing to girls by affecting Black fashions and mannerisms.
Third, what some White dregs describe as Blacks “being better in bed”, is more likely the added excitement of doing what every healthy instinct tells them is vile, mixed with simple fear of the brute they’re alone with. (Even the most deluded Whites know that Blacks are violent, and that being alone in the dark with them is risky.) It is hardly possible that Blacks, childish and selfish as they are, would pay particular attention to the well-being of their bed mates.
Fourth, since the average IQ for Blacks is 85, with a standard deviation of 10, one Black out of 20 will have an IQ of 105 or better. That’s smart enough to read a newspaper and do first year algebra, at least. The so-called “talented tenth” is more like a just slightly above average twentieth. Still, that’s good enough to get an affirmative action job that pays enough to have a nice car and buy a house, and otherwise pass yourself off as capable and intelligent. Of course, many of these Blacks can’t pay their bills and are losing the houses, but they still have the job and the Lexus. In a society with such misshapen values as ours, they can still pass.
Posted by Schoolteacher at 11:04 PM on February 24
Posted by Bethany at 2:11 PM on February 23:
They seem to be more masculine in their attitudes. Secondly, at least this has been my experience, they are much better in bed than White men. Several of my White female friends have made similar comments.
I think that as America becomes more diverse and racial barriers continue to crumble, you are going to see alot more White women date and marry Black and Latino men.
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Bethany-
As a white female, I find your views surprising for someone of your age. I would expect this from a Gen X or Y’er, but not from a 35 year old who has apparently done their share of dating and would have more life experience. I won’t address your comment regarding black men being “more masculine in their attitudes”. I think that is a perception issue- what you see as masculine, I may see as totally crass, and lacking class or propriety, so I’ll leave that alone. Somehow though, I just can’t see you ending up in a long term committed relationship, if sex is the other primary reason you offer as to why you prefer black and latino men.
I have found in many long term relationships (including my own 25 year marriage), sex is not the “be all, end all” so many people (particularly teens/ 20 yr olds)seem to believe it is. Sex is only one important component of a long term relationship. I would never have considered dating a black man, and never will. I suppose it is selfishness on my part, but I must be valued more than anything else in this world, and treated with the upmost respect and admiration. Somehow I don’t see that happening for most women involved with black men. The black men I have worked with (or know of from their wives/girlfriends) come off as selfish and concerned only for themselves. Their white girlfriends are more a “reflection” of themselves (“armcandy” for them to flaunt to their friends. They put their impulsive needs and desires ahead of the needs of their families. For me there is also the basic lack of attraction- sorry, but most black men are just plain ugly (with the exception of the few with white features and Hollywood leading man good looks). Finally there is the issue of values. Mine would never allow for it. Miscegnation is bad enough, but I prefer a man I can count on to pull his weight in the relationship (both emotionally and financially- to me this is manly), one who will settle down and form a long term commitment rather than wandering about always seeking more women to experiment with and impregnate.
Brings to mind that song “papa was a rolling stone-wherever he hung his hat was his home.” This type of behavior is expected and celebrated by blacks!
Unfortunately, I have known enough black females to know they are not treated with high regard and respect by their men. The black man’s lack of commitment and wandering eye, combined with their poor work ethic and apparent lack of concern for their progeny, have left their women broken, both financially and emotionally. and oftentimes physically. What a sad legacy the black man leaves.
Posted by at 12:21 AM on February 25
Bethany and Brent, you are both a disgrace to the White race.
Posted by at 2:17 AM on February 25
Hey Bethany, maybe black men are so good in bed because of all the watermelon they eat. You think so? Next you are going to tell us that black men are better at shining shoes than white men…..Why don’t you get yourself a oneway ticket to Liberia.
Posted by at 2:22 AM on February 25
These idiot liberals who date outside their race may find themselves faced with death and certainly faced with abuse from their unnatural race partner. We can only wish the worse for them all for they are the problems. Obv blacks have figured out this is their way out of their black race misery or so they think in their misguided mentality on both ends.
If beautiful white females mix with black males in some of these ignorant cities then these are nothing but sluts tramps and whores unworthy of the white race and who will more likely than not in the end find themselves in poverty with mixed mutts on welfare and obese.
Posted by at 8:53 AM on February 25
Biblically it was the younger Ham male son who committed the evil perverted sexual act on his own father Noah and his descendants were eternally cursed and maybe that explains why they all came from the jungles of Africa steeped in 3rd world poverty disease death with proven genetic defiency traits especially in intelligence. Had the slave traders never disturbed these Hamites the white race would be intact and pure as the creator intended. We know the evil one decieves and confuses the purity of the creators natural plan with his wicked brainwash.
Posted by at 8:59 AM on February 25
Why are black women so against inter-racial marriage for themselves?
How can that possibly be any worse than their current situation?
Posted by Dennis at 1:11 PM on February 25
“Many black women have an internalized stereotypical belief that non African-American men would not find them attractive.”
DING DING DING. We have a winner. I have seen very few white guys date black women relative to black guys dating white women. The answer is obvious to all white males. Only about 2%-3% (if that) of black women are even remotely attractive. Sorry, but I just don’t find fat women with an attitude attractive. Further, ever notice how black women in general show nothing but attitude toward white guys. The reason is simple. They know white guys don’t find them attractive, so they cop an attitude to hide their insecurity. Pure and simple. When I call a customer service number, I know I am trouble anytime a black female answers (and yes, 99% of the time I can easily identify a black woman by her voice). The attitude begins almost immediately. I ususally hagn up and redial till I get someone else.
Posted by at 1:46 PM on February 25
This is a bit off topic but one thing I’ve noticed is that when I’ve been at parties and there’s a mixed married couple with children, they almost always have this “air” of moral superiority about them. They beam with this smugness that they’re some how more enlightened.
Posted by RealityCheck at 2:56 PM on February 25
Many black women have an internalized stereotypical belief that non African-American men would not find them attractive.
And they’d be right. What’s attractive about them? If they have no white in them, they are just downright ugly. Big bubble butts and attitude.
On the other hand, the males parade around their stupid white women like trophies same as they do their cars. They love the idea of spitting in the white man’s eye by having a white woman on their arm. Sadly, once the white woman has gone with one of these chimps, no white man wants them. Like a born victim of physical spousal abuse who keeps seeking similar men expecting a different outcome, the skank is now doomed to being with non-whites who will treat her as badly, or worse. Plus have you ever noticed how more often than not, it’s some fat white ugly skank who is with the black guy? The black doesn’t care. She’s not as ugly nor as attitudinal as women of his own race. And besides, it’s a trophy. He has no intention of being any intention of being any more faithful to the white skank as he does to any woman.
Posted by Bill R at 4:09 PM on February 25
My friend had a renegade daughter that ran off to Charleston South Carolina with a crack dealing pimp. He got busted and she was already 3 months pregnant with his bastard. She had no place to go so she came home and asked the old man to take her in. He agreed with the caveat that if the pimp ever showed upo he would kill him on sight.
The kid was born later and she named him after my buddy. Ten years ago we took hm to the Eagles Club while we had a few pops. Some jack ass kept staring at the three year old kid we has sitting at the bar drinking coke through a shot glass. My pal said, ” Yeah he`s half *igger but he has my blood which makes him twice the white man you will ever be.”
Later that week he called me up because the kid`s grand parents had come down from DC to take him back to their upscale DC apartment complex. His daughter thought it would be best for her child to be raised by ” His people, “. My buddy told them that it was okay because he had no control over what his daughter did, but if the boy didn`t score out at least 125 on the IQ scale one year after leaving, he would come up there and take him away and become a fugitive.
The kid got beat up last year for acting white at his middle school. My pal is on the run as we speak.
Charles B. Tiffany
Kissimmee, Florida
Posted by Charles B. Tiffany at 4:38 PM on February 25
“So yes, to all of you who are saying that their is growing trend in regards to interracial relationships, sex, bisexuality and gay and lesbain lifestyles, it is happening and it makes me sick!!!This must stop!!!!”
Posted by William at 6:12 PM on February 23
Whenever an article is posted like this one, there are always bogus posters, usually black or of the radical leftist persuasion, that put out some kind of unbelievable story about inter-rational matings being the norm, like the one above. He’s trying to flim flam people into believing that he is disgusted with white/non-white pairings, while he thinks he’s promoting the view that they are the norm, and, in spite of what everyone can see for themselves, readers are supposed to believe him.
It’s a dimwitted, infantile ploy.
When whites or non-whites pair up, and have children especially, they’re telling the world they have no pride in their race and care little for the continuation of it. Blacks especially seem to want relationships outside their race, but what could be expected from a group that comes in dead last when comparing all the peoples of the earth?
There ARE black/white pairings of course, but they’re not significant in a land of 300 million people. They’re hardly a danger to the perpetuation of the white race.
In fact I think I’d go so far as to say that there are more white hookers in the US than white women married to blacks, with a good portion of them in both groups.
Posted by w.r. at 5:01 PM on February 25
People, “Bethany” is obviously a troll.
But if she IS a real race-mixer, then she is one of those disgusting social deviants aimlessly wandering through the alleyways of poor urban society, with nothing but the Wal*Mart rags on her greasy, infected sore-covered back. We have all seen her type. MY guess is the reason she has let herself be violated by so many non-Whites is because SHE could NEVER achieve the standards of real White men. The Whites she must see are the heroin addicts, who have learned the way of their darker brothers. But not a REAL White man.
Posted by Seamus at 5:22 PM on February 25
Maybe if true many Blacks realize the marriage will hasten to breakup the extended family. It astonishes me how many White women appear so quick to destroy their extended family in favor of marrying a Black male and in the process lose any future support and security.
Posted by factualist at 6:39 PM on February 25
9:02pm:
Where do you live?
I have lived in several cities. I currently live in Charlotte, North Carolina and I see a number of BEAUTIFUL White women dating Black men. Especially in clubs. These women are not obese and ugly.
The same held true in Mineanapolis, and several other medium to large cities I have lived in. While there is no doubt less than attractive White women who date Black men, the ones I have seen are at least 8’s on a scale of 1-10. I have also seen a groowing number of White males dating Black, Latino and Asian females as well.
Perhaps your city is an exception, but given my experience I have and still am seeing a good amount of interracial dating. I do not approve of it, but I cannot live in denial and say it is not happening either.
Posted by David at 2:30 AM on February 24
Clubs provide a distorted picture. Any club that attracts black men is playing hip-hop or rap. White women who go to those clubs will be predisposed to interracial dating. Such women are on par with strippers: they are very nice to look at but woe to the guy who actually gets involved with one.
White women who date black athletes are only attracted to money and fame. They wouldn’t look twice at these guys if they didn’t come with the green. They probably even think these guys are ‘not really black.’
Posted by Civilized Neighbor at 7:47 PM on February 25
“God created everyone…he tests us each day and laughs when we pass judgement on those who seem different based on their color. He tests us in strange ways.”
How do you know all this?
Posted by Cassiodorus at 11:41 PM on February 25
Subutai:
For the record, there are many masculine, heterosexual men in Manhattan!
I am not sure why you would assume otherwise.
Posted by Masculine Manhattan Man at 11:41 PM on February 25
w.r:
Why would a Black intergationist or White radical liberal (as you seem to suggest posted this comment) argue that they are against interracial sex? If anything, they are the ones who are promting it all over the place.
In fact, in USA TODAY, not too long ago, there was a column on the sex habits young people. Many of them talked about having threesomes, same sex relationships, sex with people of different races etc… A number of other magazines and websites have written about the sex lives of young people on college campuses.
On the O’Reilly factor, a student spoek with Bil O’Reilly about a party that took place at Brown University in 2006. The student was a reproter for a conservaitve campus newspaper. He filmed the party. O’Reilly showed excerpts of it. What I saw was disgusting.
There were a number of girls dancing only with their Bras and shorts one. Young guys many who were wearing no shirts at all etc… I saw young people from all ethnic groups dancing with one another.
The student went on to tell O’Reilly that it was “the wildest party he had ever seen. There were girls making out with girls, guys making out with guys etc…people having sex in the bathroom stalls threesomes, group sex, oral sex etc…” That is exaclty what he said. I believe him.
In fact, I know there have been several cases at my high school where we have caught students having sex in the bathrooms, in empty classrooms after school. Some have even been caught in other places. Some of these cases have been across racial and same sex lines. This does happen.
While it may not be the norm, the fact is that the poster’s story may well be true. Those of us who work closely with young people know that these things can and do happen. I would not discount it.
Posted by Teacher at 11:59 PM on February 25
“ZKR:
I never said anything aobut deserving praise, I just mentioned to you that your analysis is way off base and it is.”
To who exactly? You and the others involved in your “Benetton ad” view of reality?
Posted by ZKR at 12:02 AM on February 26
Gay conservatve:
Homosexuality and lesbianism is destroying the White race. Given the fact that so few others have denounced such behavior on this board, I am wondering if many of you are closet gays and lesbians yourselves.
Apparently Mr.Curd has no problem flaunting his love for men and women on this website.
This will be the downfall of our race.
Posted by Straight, White and Proud! at 12:22 AM on February 26
To Observer:
Yes some mixed race people stand out and they are in advertising, entertainment, etc. But about half of the ones I see at the university I attend and in the surrounding area will have to rely on their brains and not their looks. Sure the kids are cute - all kids are cute, with their elf like features, but not all adults are attractive.
Posted by Joy at 7:23 AM on February 26
“It’s like we are a paint used to lighten up and pretty the other races.”
On the other hand, maybe white men who know what their IQ is and what higher IQ offspring intentionally are looking for Asian women, eh?
Posted by at 8:25 AM on February 26
“God created everyone…he tests us each day and laughs when we pass judgement on those who seem different based on their color. He tests us in strange ways.”
Well, it would certainly be nice if there was a god up there who did that…
Posted by LHathaway at 9:54 AM on February 26
Who really CARES about this woman’s dating habits anyway?…She better hope she doesn’t end up like NICOLE SIMPSON, O.J.’s latest HOSPITALIZED girlfriend, CUTT’S girlfriend and his unborn child,or that Female Marine and HER unborn baby MURDERED by her HISPANIC Marine lover!…I could go ON & ON & ON!
Posted by Suzan Donoghue at 12:03 PM on February 26
If white guys won’t go out with a white woman once she’s been with a black man, then why don’t we say something before she gets knocked up? Somehow it’s racist to protect our women, but it’s not racist to comment on the consequences? OK. White men…be men again!
Posted by at 4:09 PM on February 26
Imagine if some White Sniper just started shootting all the MRC’s fom long range ??? I wonder what effect that would have on the interracial dating trends in the USA.
Posted by 14W at 6:30 PM on February 26
Straight, White and Proud:
I agree with you one hundred percent.
Gay conservaive:
No true, racially conscious White person would engage in gay or lesbian behavior.
Mr. Curd:
You are a pervert!
Posted by White and conservative at 8:56 PM on February 26
Frank:
I attended Swarthmore college as an undergraduate. 1994-1999. I was a five year senior. I took off a semester my junior year. This was happening at Swarthore College back then. In fact, the Chronicle of Higher Education did an article about our school. Durign my sophomore year, I lived in a triple with another guy and a girl. James was Black. Amber and I are White. She was also bisexual. We got along fine. I only did it for one year.
One of my friends lived with two females his freshman year. By junior year, most people either become committed couples (gay and straight)and move off campus or move to upperclasmen housing which are more like townhouses. By my senior year, I moved in with my partner, Scott. We both graduted in 1999. After graduation we moved to Seattle to attned gard school at the University of Washington. He is an attorney and I am a professor in the college of education at a well-respected big 10 university.
During my first two years, I was like a number of students, I experimented sexually with men and women. By the end of my sophomore year, I knew that my sexual orientation was gay.
Once again, this trend has been in effect for more than a decade at some schools.
Posted by Nick at 9:12 PM on February 26
“but I prefer a man I can count on to pull his weight in the relationship (both emotionally and financially- to me this is manly), one who will settle down and form a long term commitment rather than wandering about always seeking more women to experiment with and impregnate.”
You’ve put your finger on it. Most of a marriage takes place outside or the bedroom. You have to get out of the sack eventually. Dependability and committment are essential. Seventy percent of black children are born outside of wedlock. What does that say about average black male stability?
Posted by Sardonicus at 11:59 AM on February 27
White women are being groomed by both the mainstream media as well as the adult entertainment industry into playing the part of the globe’s concubine.
Inter-racial pornography is by far the most insidious: it is a legalized type of hate crime.
Deconstruct pornographic films: women are dominated, defiled, and ultimately humiliated. Insert the racial elements, and the films become nothing more than aggressive propaganda that bait, and insult European-Americans with images of their own abuse, displacement, and subjugation - classic conquest imagery, operating at the most intimate and sensitive levels.
If there is a multi-billion dollar porn industry, built on what is basically female exploitation (PRIMARILY white women),viewed by the majority of people, how can taboos remain taboos? It is social conditioning. American and European porn are peddled in the most despicable, and socially backward communities. These viewers nurture ideas of ‘liberated’ western white woman being sexually available and easy. If non-whites lust after white women, white people are most to blame for allowing such an insidious and repugnant industry to flourish in the first place. Imagine what a burden has been hoisted on whites: The white female spends her life dodging the leers and sexual advances of all races, including her own. While the white male has to compete not only with his own kind, but with every other race that has been conditioned to perceive that white females are open to all comers. Mathematically, it is inevitable that less and less white males will be siring offspring with their own women. Call it the Brazilian Affect.
Posted by Joe Zealot at 11:22 AM on February 29
Joe Zealot:
Who is forcing these White women to go into the porn industry?
It seems to me that they are larely making a consciuos effort to do so.
Posted by The White Race Is Headed For Ruin at 7:42 PM on February 29
Teacher:
You are correct. These things do happen. As a fomrer teachr, now self employed businessman ( I got sick of what was happening in our public schools)! I saw such behavior happen firsthand in bathrooms, claasrooms, gynasiums etc… I can vouch for you on this point.
Before I left three years ago, we had girls going to the prom with girls, boys with boys, two guys and a girl, two girls and a guy etc… And yes, the interracial dating was big! A number of them were involved in the two guys,and a girl, two girls and a guys, three girls etc… sickness as well.
Yes, interracial, gay lesbian and bisexual sex is taking place among our youth. The nation is headed for trouble.
Posted by Paul at 7:52 PM on February 29
Nick:
We had a similar situation at the well-respected small liberal arts college I attended in upstate New York. I am a couple of years younger than you (at least that I what I am guessing). I attended the college from 1996-2000. We had suites as well. The year before I arrived there, the campus had completed its addition of three new dorms and its renovation of the older dorms. The campus was beautiful.
My freshman year I lived with a Black female, Melaine and a White and another White male, Kevin. Her father was a doctor and her mother was a professor (at another school). Kevin’s father was a superintendant of schools in Illinois and his mom was a wedding planner. My parents were (are) an education consultant (mom)and an attorney (dad). We all came from pretty well off families.
Like your roomates, we got along well. The only difference was that we were more sexually involved with one another than you guys were.
We frequently had threesomes with one another. Sometimes when Kevin was out of town for the weekend or at his girlfriends for the night, Melanie and I had sex with one another. Sometimes, we would have sex with other people in the dorm as well. Kevin came to the conclusion at the end of his freshman year that he wanted to transfer to another school and he did so his sophomore year.
Melanie moved in with two females her sophomore year. I joined a fraternity and moved into the house. I stayed there until I graduated in 2000. I lost touch with Kevin after he transferred, however, I still saw Melanie frequently and we kept in touch. We had lunch and dinner occasionally with one another and would see one another from time to time at campus events. We never had sex again though.
She went on to earn her Ph.D. from Brown University last year. She is now married (I attended her wedding) to a Latino man who she met while at Brown.(he is a fellow professor as well) and they both are first year professors of Sociology and Politcal Science respectively at a top 20 university. While we e-mailed each other consistently, I had not seen her in person since 2004 when she paid me a visit to California. She is as gorgeous as ever! He is a handsome fellow as well!
I went on to earn a masters degree in film, television and communication at UCLA. I am still single and work as a writer/consultant for a major television network in Los Angeles.
During those years, I made a lot of friends with men and women, especially my frat brothers. I am still close with a number of them as well; however, you know as we get older and times goes on, circumstances change and you remain closer to some people than you do to others. Those college years were ones of growth and maturity for a number of us.
Posted by Russell at 3:14 AM on March 1
White and conservative:
You are wrong. I am racially conscious White person who happens to prefer same sex relationships. This does not make me a traitor to the White race. you should be more concerned about my politics as opposed to who I sleep with.
Posted by Gay Conservative at 3:52 AM on March 1
Who is forcing these White women to go into the porn industry?
It seems to me that they are larely making a consciuos effort to do so.
True, a gun is not being put to there head.
However, we are talking primarily about young girls, just out of their teens or in their early twenties, most of home come from troubled backgrounds; but, even if one were to discount this factor, there is still the insidious social conditioning via the liberalization of sexual mores that has been occurring in the last few decades.
Further, I do not want to turn this into pro-con porn debate; i just merely want to point out that pornography, especially this strategically manipulated interracial porn is an extremely harmful agent that is corroding our values as an ethnic group, and contributing to many of the issues mentioned on this forum: such as the lusting after, or seeking sexual adventures outside one’s race, which seemingly involves non-whites pursuing ‘easy’ white women.
Posted by Joe Zealot at 9:35 AM on March 1
Russell:
Indeed, our experiences were similar on a number of levels. I would argue that this was the case for a lot of us who attended upscale colleges in the mid to late 90s. Many of are finally etching ourseleves into and establishing our careers as professors, attorneys, business executives etc… We are a unique generation.
Best of luck!
NICK
Posted by Nick at 3:33 PM on March 1
Nick and Russell:
I graduated from Middlebury College in 1995. So I am few years older than you two. However,I remember similar experiences during my college days. We had coed roommates at our school as well; however, all my roommates were female.
During my freshmen and sophomire years, I experimented with straight and gay sex, By the end of my sophomore year, I made a conscious decision to engage solely in lesbian realtionships. During my junior and senior years, I had three girlfriends. One was Black. The other two were White.
Once, I started graduate school at the University of Texas at Austin, I remained in lesbian relationships for a year. Afterwards, I decided that I would be more fullfilled as a straight woman. At the beginning of my second year of graduate school, I met a man who was working on his Ph.D. in Chemistry who I instantly fell in love with.
Midway through my second year of graduate school, we moved in together in an off-campus apartment. Three years later after he both completed his Ph.D. in Chemistry and I completed my Ed.D. in Education in 2001, we got married in the Virgin Islands.
He works as a chemical consultant in private industry and I am an educational consultant for four universities, We are also the parents of two beautiful twin boys and a lovely baby girl.
It took me a while to find out who I was , but I did and I think that such experimentation made me appreciate who I was and now am.
Whether my children will have a similar experience will be hard to say, but if they ever ask me about my college years, I will be as candid as possible.
BEST,
JESSICA
Posted by Jessica at 5:38 PM on March 1
Nick and Russell:
I guess you guys are really proud of yourselves. Having sex with multiple people,- men, women, non-whites etc… whatever made you fell good - threesomes, group sex, one on one, interracial sex etc…you just went right ahead and did it, didn’t you.
God knows that I hope that my two sons who are 15 and 17 and are about to attend college in the next few years do not turn out to be like you two.
Posted by Lawrence at 7:12 PM on March 1
Straight, White and Proud:
As someone who post frequently on this board , I can tell you that I am not a “closet gay or lesbian.” I am heterosexual. In fact, I would argue that 85 to 90% of those of us who do post on the board are straight in our orientation.
That being said, it is more important for those of us who are racially conscious Whites to do what we can to promote heterosexual relationships among our people. However, the fact is that some people are going to be predisposed to be attracted to members of the same sex. This is just a fact of life.
Given our numbers in society and the world,we Whites are currently at a disadvantage and as another poster stated, we need all the allies we can get. As far as I am concerned,if racially conscious gay and lesbian White men and women want to join our movement then I say GREAT!!! They will be much more of an asset than heterosexual Whites who crave, encourage, promote and engage in interracial sex, marriage and relationships.
These are the individuals who are aiding in the destruction of the White race, not the race conscious gay and lesbian Whites.
Posted by Richard at 3:37 PM on March 2
The fact is that too many of us White men have become emascualted. We have in essence, become wimps!
They need to regain the ruggedness and strength of our fathers and grandfathers!
Posted by Hugh at 3:54 PM on March 2
12:21am, February 25th:
Your argument ,particularly the last paragraph, applies to a large number of White men as well, particularly younger ones.
Posted by June at 12:48 AM on March 3
Hugh:
You are correct on that point! I bet our fathers and great grandfathers would recoil at the behavior of many White men today.
Posted by Wayne at 1:47 PM on March 3
The sad thing about it is that in about the next ten to 15 years Jennifer, Nick and Russel’s generation will be running the nation.
Think aobut it. In fact, I don’t want to think about it!
Posted by Albert at 8:29 PM on March 3
Hugh:
I could not agree more! women want strong, confident men, not weak effeminate guys.
Posted by Beverly at 8:30 PM on March 3
You know, the issue of many White males becoming emasculated is one that we should really take seriously. My daugther was an intern in the office of a well-known republican congressman. She would frequently talk about the dearth of masculine looking men where she worked. Of course there were men who were strong and buff, but she said that for every 2 or 3 that were, there were a 5 or 6 who be classified as weaklings. A number of them she described as androgonous.
This was just one factor. She said that she was surprised about how so many of the young men were into fashion. According to her, many of them knew more about the clothes and purses she wore than she did!
Needles to say, if my daughters experiece is typical than we have a lot to be concerned about. I am beginning to wonder if there should be MANDATORY military service for all 18 year old men for a minimum of one year. Or at least RIGID program on how to make men become men! I AM SERIOUS!
At the rate we are going, White men will be so emasculated (coupled with growing glorification of homosexuality by our perverted media)that we will cease to be a legitimate race of men by the mid 21st century!
We better do something and fast!
Posted by Carl at 8:39 PM on March 3
Richard:
The fact is that for every one or two gay or lesbian racially conscious Whites, there are six or seven who are a part of the multicultural, diversity crowd. In fact, a number of White gays and lesbian have Black and other non-White partners!
These people are not our allies!
Posted by Jeffrey at 2:15 AM on March 4
Carl,
Your post rings so true…
I had the same conversation with friends not too long ago. If you look around there is a concerted effort in the media to emasculate men, especially white men (if not exclusively). Just look at the fashions trends that are most ‘in’ today: Metrosexaulism, which describes the ‘fashionista’ males you mentioned, or those EMO rockers, (EMO = emotional/sensitive/in tune with the feminine). It disgusting. Then on the flip side, you look at the imagery of hip-hop from as far back as the late-eighties, and you get a bombardment of this inner-city machismo and aggression. White men are definitely being engineered into pansies.
Posted by Joe Zealot at 3:19 PM on March 4
Many of the White men I see look like men and are pretty masculine. I fact, the more upscale they are the more masculine they look.
I think some of you are making much adu about nothing.
Posted by Walter at 6:09 PM on March 4
Some of you act like your surprised that White men are dating Non-White women.
Remember the Duke lacrosse boys? The major newspapers discussed how Reade Seligman had dinners with a “special” Black female friend of his and how a number of lacrosse players dated Black, Asian, latino, and other non-white women. Too many White men today are devoid of any racial consciousness!
This should hardly come as a surprise!
Posted by Oliver at 6:13 PM on March 4
Joe Zealot:
Thank you for reconfirming what I have been trying to tell more than a few of my friends and relatives. Many of them think that I am imagining things. My daughter knows better.
There is a disturbing trend that is happening out there and we have to combat it.
Posted by Carl at 8:08 PM on March 5
Walter:
I think Carl, Joe Zealot and others have made it clear that there are indeed masculine White men. However, there are more and more young White men that are considerably feminine in their features, behavior and mannerisms than was the case 20 even 15 years ago. Anyone who is alive and aware can notice this fact.
I myself am certainly aware of this trend and it is disturbing and I do not think that it is happening by accident.
Posted by Neil at 8:12 PM on March 5
Joe and Carl:
You two are so CORRECT!!! I have just lately noticed this trend!
I was looking at some 80s magazines that had male models wearing dress suits and swimwear. I noticed that the men back then looked so much more masculine than they do now! They looked like intelligent human beings!
Nowadays if you see men in magazines or male models they look like waif’s! I would say that 40% of them look like a hybrid between the two genders. This is indeed a disturbing trend!
Something has to be done to stop this!
Posted by Virginia at 12:01 AM on March 6
The New York Times had an article about male models last week in its style section. According to the article, the accepted weight for male models is now 155-160. 15 to 20 years ago, it was anywhere from 180-210 and 5’9-6’3 and muscular. Needless to say, there is an effort to demasculinize men.
A man who is anywhere from 5’9 to 6’3 and weighs between 180-210 pound and either looks or is muscular LOOKS LIKE A STRONG MAN! A 5’9 to 6’3 man who is 155-160 lbs looks like a beanpole, a waif, a wimp and is hardly masculine looking!
One of the model recruiters said that he gets strong, healthy looking, muscular boys from the midwest and other parts of the nation coming to his modeling agency all the time inquiring about modeling and he has to inform them that they are “too buff and muscluar.” That the acceptable look and weight is 155-160 and a thinner look. When I read this, I thought that this was pathetic!
So yes, I agree with those of you who argue that there is a conspiracy to emasculate men, especially White men. It has too stop!
Posted by Marty at 3:18 PM on March 6