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Evidently their “sanctuary city” policies are working out nicely…
Posted by HH at 6:02 PM on January 2
This could easily have been done by racist black or racist Arab cowards. I wouldn’t necessarily say that MS 13 did this. That racist gang hates blacks much more so than whites so I can’t see it saying kill whites only. Also, we’ve seen a lot of anti-white black “graffiti” only be proven the work of racist black people. Remember this - the racist black people hate white people much more so than any other group. There is not even a close second.
Posted by Elrey Jones at 6:05 PM on January 2
Lori Grenfell told the New Haven station. “They have the right to say what they want to say. They can thank these guys for that right.”
No, they do not have a right to vandalize and threaten to kill.
Posted by at 6:06 PM on January 2
How long do we tolerate these animals? Why can’t our elected leaders see beyond the “hard-working, honest people, just coming for a job?” They need to look a little closer and see the gangs with their graffiti, the murderers, the molesters, the thieves, the frauds and all the crimes that come with illegal immigration. But as long as their pockets are filled by the multinational companies, they just don’t care. DO you suppose they even think of their own grandchildren?
Posted by June at 6:22 PM on January 2
I wish they’d work their way to DC.
Posted by GetBackJack at 6:34 PM on January 2
Gee that sure sounds like terrorists to me. Why are we not stomping the heck out of these terrorists?
Steve
Posted by at 6:41 PM on January 2
“‘Kill whites MS 13’ were among the threatening words spray-painted on the Vietnam War Memorial at Long Wharf, Conn., reported WTNH-TV in New Haven.”
I have long held and will not waver in my belief, that all members of this criminal and terrorist organization should be dealt with here, exactly as they are in El Salvador. Membership in that hoard of butchers is an instant death sentence in that country, when they are detected by the police; this is why they are terrified of being deported there if caught in our country, they know that it is going to be a one way ticket into Satan’s clutches. I know of what I write, since I am annually required to take a “security risk” organizations course for the criminal justice system I work in.
It is a vicious criminal mob like no other, which specializes in renting itself out as hit squads for other gangs of criminals. Their initiation “rites” include raping, torturing, and murdering underage girls and elderly women.
Thus, for once, I feel we have something to learn from the Third World; this murdering band of beasts should be fully outlawed and hunted down with a single minded bloodthirstiness.
Seek and Destroy, should be our only policy!
Posted by John PM at 6:42 PM on January 2
“kill whites”
hmm, a little less subtle than a noose, eh?
media outcry, anyone? no?
hmph, ok.
Posted by Lionheart at 6:43 PM on January 2
This might be a hoax. I am in no way supporting MS-13, and they should definitely investigate it, but there is a possibility that this is a hoax. But hoax or not, MS-13 should not be marauding about comitting crimes.
Posted by at 6:45 PM on January 2
Thanks Mr. President for making living in the U.S. a rich cultural experience.This is what they mean about strengh in diversity.Don’t this make us all feel warm and fuzzy.
Posted by THE MAN at 7:11 PM on January 2
I’m sure Jess and Al are not going to march down there anytime soon. Maybe they should’ve hung nooses there.
This is the only news source I’ve heard of this.
Posted by Ben D. at 7:19 PM on January 2
“This might be a hoax.”
Unlikely. Unlike the noose incident, hispanics engage in this type of behavior all the time. It’s typical. The noose incidents were obvious hoaxes simply because this sort of behavior is RARE among whites. Among hispanics, it’s not. Neither is acting on these sentiments.
Posted by at 7:21 PM on January 2
“Vandals claiming a relationship to the violent Hispanic street gang MS-13 defaced a Vietnam War memorial in Connecticut with graffiti, angering local veterans.”
In Connecticut! Can you believe it? Connecticut!
MSM: “Immigrants are wonderful! Diversity is our strength! We are a multicultural nation! Please pay no attention to the tattooed, angry looking Hispanic man carrying the machete. He’s only here for a better life and yours will do just fine!”
Posted by idareya at 7:21 PM on January 2
I agree that this is probably a hoax, simply because MS-13 graffiti is very distinct, and because MS-13 gang members are into marking their particular territories, not grand political gestures like this, that can only bring down the heat. I suspect that this was done by Whites. However, that still does not mean that we should not be deporting these guys as fast as we can find them.
For all AmRen readers: we must always take the high ground. We must always tell the truth. We must always stay within the law.
Posted by at 7:29 PM on January 2
This is certainly a hoax, because MS-13 gang members are cowards and the last thing in the world they want to do is piss off American combat vets. MS-13 gutless wonders are terrified of El Salvador’s Sombra Negra which is comprised of local military and police who hunt down and exterminate MS-13 members for sport. If these gang bangers wet themselves at the thought of facing El Salvador’s third-world military and police they would be positively hysterical at the thought of having experienced professional American warriors after them…
Posted by at 7:37 PM on January 2
‘Kill whites MS 13’ were among the threatening words spray-painted on the Vietnam War Memorial”
Maybe the lamestream establishment media (Worldnetdaily excluded) has recruited some new soldiers to wage war against Whitey, his historical memory, and heroes.
To Lionheart: Ain’t that the truth? So well said.
Posted by Voir Dire at 7:43 PM on January 2
Of course, there is NO way this can be a hate crime. MS-13 is not listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a white extremist organization, nor is it on the list of La Raza’s racist hate organization. The NAACP has yet to “investigate” and we have heard nothing from Je$$ee and Al.
ALso, I have heard nothing of this on CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,FOX, thus it is not important.
Blah, blah, blah.
Posted by LOGIC at 8:21 PM on January 2
Since this wasn’t a noose hung by whites as a teenage prank, expect it to remain a very minor story. Does the media double-standard get any more obvious than this?
Posted by Tim in Indiana at 8:48 PM on January 2
Not really far off from the “GRINGOS OUT OF PILSEN” signs in the front of newspaper boxes in th Pilsen neighborhood of Chicago, is it?
Posted by at 9:06 PM on January 2
I’m surprised WND didn’t expand a bit on the racist “kill whites” emblazoned on the wall. They usually do on something like that.
And I’m further surprised that the T.V. station mentioned it, because so many of them would ignore it, since it was racist against whites and not non-whites.
I’m not surprised, however, at the vitrole by whites in the station’s comment section, because I’ve been noticing the same on many newspaper venting boards on the net, which tells me whitey is finally getting fed up.
There are still plenty of white morons around who need to come in contact with some direct abuse before they wise up……. and some of them never will…… but I detect a growing white rage that wasn’t there just a couple of years ago. But, then, of course, more non-white on white outrages have been getting more than the usual exposure on the web lately, which would explain the reaction.
White outrage would be 100 times what is now if every single non-white on white attack, rape, and murder, were given national exposure as the white on non-white attacks are.
The yellow rags know this, of course, and that’s why they seek to put a lid on reporting events and participants truthfully every chance they get.
Too bad for them whitey’s underground network apparatus on the web is circumventing their reporting or lack of it. Everything we have done to pass the word along on other sites and forums is having an effect.
Posted by Robert Kelly at 9:32 PM on January 2
So the New Haven Police “have not documented any MS-13 activity in the city”. I guess that either means that they don’t exist there or, more than likely, the Police are afraid of “profiling” hispanics. From what I’ve seen, heard and read, these animals are pretty easy to spot by their tattoos, manner of dress, and affiliates. What’s the problem NHPD? Afraid to do your job? Or waiting for things to get so bad that you’ll have to ask for federal aid?
Posted by David H. at 9:54 PM on January 2
Hate crime anyone?
anyone?
bueler?
oh wait I forgot, only Whites can commit hate crimes.
Posted by Ozzy at 10:08 PM on January 2
Diversity induced genocide anyone ? See what our unconstitutional non-representatives in both houses from both parties has done to our ( former republic )since the treasonous/ traitorous 1965 immigration and Reform act has done to our once beloved democracy/country. That you demo-rats for creating this racial/cultural ” holocaust ” you have inflicted on your trusting constituents since 1965. The republican neo-con party which most of the time has been the minority party since, hasn’t mentioned a ” peep ” about this ethnic/cultural Marxist cleansing, which means they are in cohoots with this holocaust extermination of Western civilization or too chicken to be the opposition to America’s communist party, aka, demo-rats.
Posted by Michigan patriot at 10:18 PM on January 2
There is no question that MS-13 is based in Los Angeles and exports their gang members all around the U.S. They continue to flourish and prosper in L.A. because L.A. is a sanctury city and police are forbidden to inquire about immigration status. Reconquista mayor Villargrosa is on record in warning the police that they will be “punished” if they so inquire. So, it looks as if L.A. will continue to export these gang members.
Posted by at 10:24 PM on January 2
This is yet another very sick mark of this very sick age of multiculturalism.
Posted by at 10:48 PM on January 2
Of course, this isn’t a hate crime either.
Posted by Diversity Kills at 11:11 PM on January 2
“This might be a hoax. I am in no way supporting MS-13, and they should definitely investigate it, but there is a possibility that this is a hoax.”
Posted by at 6:45 PM on January 2
More than a hoax, its highly possible that this was done in an effort to “draw out” the “bigoted white man”…
Last year the invaders tried to cower whites and the US government into submission by rampaging through the streets burning our flag. White people responded by insisting that law enforcement do their job.
This just enraged and confounded the La Raza crowd who wanted us to either submit or rampage through the streets ourselves.
It really baffled them that we responded by appealing to law and order!
When stories like this crop up, be very careful in how you respond.
I could see this sort of thing manifesting in Mexifornia but not Connecticut. Not yet… This has ‘indoctrinated white liberal college kid’ written all over it. Much like the noose and swastika hoaxes we’ve seen lately, people who’ve been taught that5 whites are racist but who never see it manifested in real life figure they’ll help it along.
This was more than likely done to provoke whites….
Posted by the Narrator... at 11:58 PM on January 2
Yes, it could be a hoax, only the perpetrator knows. Serious criminals don’t go out of the way to leave calling cards.
The only thing we can be sure of is that it was not someone who cares for this country or for veterans.
Posted by at 12:15 AM on January 3
The saddest thing is those veterans fought and many cases died for this kind of future for their nation.
Posted by Bigotedopinion at 12:21 AM on January 3
Oh well, it only causes the white vets to get out the gun oil to prepare to take their country back!
Posted by Trisket at 12:24 AM on January 3
If you ask me, its a declaration of war!
Posted by American Outside at 12:35 AM on January 3
The U.S. fights wars overseas in Vietnam and now Iraq while ignoring the safety and security of it’s own borders. This is an ironic act of symbolism of the consequences. The Invade the world/Invite the world ‘strategy’ is a real one-two punch.
Posted by at 12:53 AM on January 3
This memorial is right next to I-95 so anyone running drugs between Miami and Boston could’ve stopped off and done the deed on their way to the gas station. Google has 8500 links to this story on various websites and blogs, yet the New Haven Register didn’t bother to cover it.
Posted by at 1:25 AM on January 3
Lori Grenfell told the New Haven station. “They have the right to say what they want to say.”
The moronic idea that illegals have their “constitutional rights” in America (except for rights specifically granted to the accused) keeps returning like boomerang despite being dismissed by the Supreme Court. For instance, the Court declared that class “the people” in the Bill of Rights consists of what Court calls national community, and only the members of that class enjoy the constitutional protections awarded to the people - see
http://geocities.com/readerswrite/commentaries/Blessings_of_the_Liberty.htm#note1
for an example with specific references.
In this case, applicable fragment of First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law […] abridging the freedom of speech […]” which only protects the free speech right of those who already have it (freedom of speech is a pre-existing right of the people mentioned in 9th Amendment) and not of those who have not (like, for instance, illegal aliens).
Also, 14th Amendment that “exports” federal protections of the Bill of Rights down to the state and local levels stipulates that “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” which makes it clear that aliens (particularly, illegal aliens) who are not citizens are not covered by this law. In other words, a state can have and enforce laws that restrict speech of non-citizens and that would not violate the Constitution of the U.S. and its amendments.
The bottom line here is that most of the damage that is currently being inflicted to our country is “based” on gross misinterpretations of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and there are some big guns there with law degrees from Ivy League schools that work hard on making sure that these misinterpretations are not rejected and that they become the law of the land on which further misinterpretations, even more damaging to our country, will be built.
So don’t you expect any mea culpa from the lawyers’ establishment as they are often the ones that have a dog in this game.
Posted by A Reader at 2:19 AM on January 3
I worked in the gang squad for years. I’ve personally dealt with MS-13, among others. First and foremost, gang members are all about territory and their membership. They do not tag property unless it is to give notice that you are on their turf, or to boast of their intentions to do harm to rival gangs or their members (ex: X’ing out rival gang tags). THAT does not look like gang graffiti either in style or choice of words. My bet would be that it was either wannabes (that will pay a steep price should MS-13 learn their identity), or it was someone looking to stir the pot (as if it needed any more stirring). The LAST thing true gang members want is to draw increased heat from cops. It’s not good for business.
Posted by Cop at 2:57 AM on January 3
WTNH-TV and World Net Daily seem to be the only ones carrying the story. Why does that not surprise me?
Posted by Drifter at 6:01 AM on January 3
That’s what happens when you invite illegals into your city and give them false legitimacy with a resident card.
And this won’t ever be prosecuted as a hate crime.
Posted by at 6:29 AM on January 3
People must be very careful not to jump to the obvious conclusion - and blame it ‘MS13’ - just like the dauber of the graffiti intended.
It is just as likely that this was done by an agent provacteur, with reasons of his own, in order to engender the reaction against MS13 that some here have expressed.
Not that I have any sympathy for MS13 though.
Posted by Kenelm Digby at 6:36 AM on January 3
I guess this is progress toward diversity. Before they might have said “honkies go home”, or “back to Europe”, now they want to kill us. Thanks, diversity educators and sanctuary city liberals!
Posted by Sardonicus at 8:18 AM on January 3
The blessings of diversity.
Posted by Jupiter at 8:40 AM on January 3
> This is certainly a hoax, because MS-13 gang members are cowards
They threatened the Minutemen, but were a no-show.
Posted by qwerty at 9:17 AM on January 3
Why didn’t the SPLC pick up on this? This is clearly a hate crime, right?
Posted by at 9:37 AM on January 3
You know, I was having a discussion on craigslist about this and I was called a bigot for pointing the FACT that the MS-13 gang spray painted “kill whites”. Yes, people. Apparently whites are bigots when we point out someone wants to harm us because of our skin color. Man, what is wrong with people nowadays?
Posted by at 9:38 AM on January 3
I thought the MS-13 was just into gang violence, not necessarily targeting whites or blacks or anyone not Hispanic? I do know that there are mexican gangs that have targeted blacks simply for being black, however
Posted by confused white person at 9:42 AM on January 3
So hey, just how much will the winners if the Iowa caucus do about these MS 13 vipers if any of them get elected president? After all, if this isn’t a threat to domestic security, then what is?
What’s that? No money in the federal budget? It’s all been spent on trying to Starbucks and Gap stores and McDoanld’s set up in Iraq and Iran? Oh, phooey…
That’s what happens when you don’t put any effort into shutting your borders, America. Enjoy!
Posted by Bob Smith at 1:31 PM on January 3
From what I understand, MS 13 doesn’t actually use their name when tagging— they use code words which most gang investigators know well. I am guessing this is a hoax—probably bbratty kids wanting to stir the pot
Posted by Bob at 1:52 PM on January 3
It doesn’t matter if this was done by actual MS-13 members or by wannabes, or even some whites who want to create a buzz for whatever reason. MS13 is a gang, a dangerous gang that has lately organized and is moving into more sophisticated crime. They are shot on sight in Guatamala, so they have dropped the graphitti and tattos we read. It is not surprising that that pressue would drive more here to exploit the soft underbelly of a still democractic nation. It is obvious however, that our personal freedom continues to be lost because of the growing threat they present here. Sooner or later, the country will have to use our military troops to fight gang and other violence here because the police are overwhelmed. In our region the Hispanics are in the national forests, cooking meth and growing pot. My State Trooper friend says that fighting it is like “Trying to sweep back the tide.” We will go on suffering increasingly with increasing random crimes of violence and the damage done by drugs like meth, that kids from liberal (and not) families seem so easily seduced by. In our lifetimes we will see a retreat from involvements overseas to regions of martial law administered regions of the U.S. The size of those regions will depend upon how many immigrants legal and illegal that we allow into the country. But that this will happen is to me, a foregone conclusion. It is strange for me to recall that 20 years ago, a film was circulating among liberals called “The Constitution in Crisis.” It illustrated a conspiracy theory that claimed that the Bush dynasty was aiming at eventual permanent martial law in much of the U.S. Under martial law, the U.S. Constitution is suspended and citizens loose their normal rights. This seemed crazy and radical to me at the time, but one wonders, seeing how all this is playing out. Remember that no one is right all the time AND no one is wrong all the time. Predictions often come to pass, but often much differently than expected.
Posted by Whiteplight at 1:54 PM on January 3
I very much agree with John P M.I have long felt that between
the criminal element and muslim nazis our constitution is fast
being turned into a suicide document.
We need to recognize these people for what they are.
The moral equivalent of sewer rats.Quite often when fighting
sewer rats it is necessary to climb down into the sewers.
Have A Nice Day
Unreconstructed
Posted by unreconstructed at 3:34 PM on January 3
Why do WE continue to mutilate the English language? Why won’t We call a spade a spade? Groups like this are not a bunch of rowdy kids. They are stone cold criminals and killers.THEY ARE A FOREIGN MILITARY ON OUR SOIL. They are not a police matter they are a military matter. We send our sons and daughters to die in foreign countries to protect their residents from far less than what we are starting to face more and more right here.
(And Is This Is Only The Start?)
Posted by Boxxer at 4:01 PM on January 3
“I worked in the gang squad for years… {snip} The LAST thing true gang members want is to draw increased heat from cops. It’s not good for business.
Posted by Cop at 2:57 AM on January 3 “
You are so right! The surest way to know that you’re talking to a gang puke is to ask him which gang he belongs to. As like as not, he’ll say “There’s no gangs in (city name).” But ask the local high-school kids, and they’ll reel off the names of half a dozen groups to keep an eye out for, for your own safety.
I busted four little wannabe’s in a stolen car once. As I was taking them to YSB, one of them asked me what gangs they would need to watch out for in stir (they were Surenos; it’s all Notenos up here). I told them, “there’s no gangs in this city.”
Checkmate, little arschlechen. I hope they had a good stay…
Posted by Wild Eyed Charlie at 5:48 PM on January 3
Funny, all the outrage is over the defacing of the memorial and none about the message. Foolish whites just don’t want to think of themselves as part of a race or understand that they are hated by many non-whites.
Posted by Funny at 6:07 PM on January 3
For all AmRen readers: we must always take the high ground. We must always tell the truth. We must always stay within the law.
Posted by at 7:29 PM on January 2
The law is against Whites. We vote and they don’t listen. As the killers are kicking my door down should I fight or sit in the fetal position and call the cops?
Posted by NordicPhile at 6:36 PM on January 3
Question…..if they catch the cowardly morons who did this…can they be charged with either…1. Hate crimes….or
2. Terroistic threats…or just what they are usually charged with….3. Boys just being boys and left off with not even a slap on the hand?????? Does anyone know????
Posted by lydia at 8:21 PM on January 3
‘MS-13’ is mostly an invention. ‘it’ serves two purposes. It helps scare away blacks who prey on Hispanics, main purpose, and it gives Hispanics who have been preyed upon the illusion that there is at least someone out there who isn’t taking guff and may even victimize blacks. If even 1 out of every 10 Hispanics who have been victimized were to take revenge, there would be a relative bloodbath out there forcing the lying ‘media’ to really have to do some work.
Posted by Mr Pibb at 9:32 AM on January 4
Always take the high ground. Always tell the truth. Always stay within the law.
Fine ideals for whites to live by, amoung ourselves. To apply them in our dealings with third world invaders is suicide.
The “Law” has tied our hands behind our backs, put a gag over our mouths, and a blindfold over our eyes. The next sound you hear will be the command “Fuego”.
The world is not a debating society, and it cannot be delt with using debate society rules. When another group makes war against us, we are not obliged to fight by their rules. We do whatever it takes to destroy them.
Posted by at 1:51 PM on January 4
“This might be a hoax.”
Maybe…but the MS-13 need all the bad publicity they can get.
Only then, will MSM begin in earnest to alerting the un-informed, dumbed-down, law-abiding American citizen of this 100,000 fifth-column army that has invaded their country.
Posted by at 1:57 PM on January 4
This was not done by MS-13. An obvious hoax. Not their modus operandi. Not their style of marking territory. Nor would they put that in English. They are not anti-white. Their members include white Central Americans. This was either the work of black hoaxer using the “MS-13” as cover to throw off who did anti-white statement. Or, I’m afraid, could be a rare white hoax trying to push the Minuteman type agenda.
Posted by at 9:37 PM on January 5
“I agree that this is probably a hoax, simply because MS-13 graffiti is very distinct, and because MS-13 gang members are into marking their particular territories, not grand political gestures like this, that can only bring down the heat. I suspect that this was done by Whites.”
Wrong. I live in LA, work in Hollywood. MS 13 graffiti is all over the place. Salvadorans and Guatemalans are known for their sloppy graffiti. It is the mexicans who practice ornate scribblings.
Posted by Read real history at 11:01 PM on January 8
I didn’t hear any of this news story on any news stations I’ve watched. But of course, I would have been shocked if I had. I live in Tennessee and had to go home to Maryland last week. Unfortunately if was not a happy visit at all. My youngest sister and my 4 nieces were the victims of the drunk driver on I-280 in Ohio on December 30th.
But anyway, I got tired to the news up there. Every news story was a stabbing, a shooting, a robbery. I counted 4 shootings and 2 stabbings in 3 news reports in one day and that’s the ones I caught. How about all the ones I probably missed. Everything in the stores is wired up to some alarm system. Here in Johnson City, when you go to buy a DVD, you don’t have to ask anybody to get it for you, you just pick it up off the shelf. In Baltimore, DVD’s, CD’s are locked behind glass doors and you have to get one of the affirmative action employess to get their key so you can buy one. Even diet products are locked behind alarm straps. It’s disgusting.
We moved from there 15 years ago and I don’t regret it one little bit. But I wonder all the time how long it will be before the misery comes to Johnson City.
Posted by Gayle at 10:03 AM on January 13
